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xputnameherex

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Re: So you have a cookie.

Are...are you even listening? PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO GET JOBS, NOT THOSE WHO WANT TO!

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krubby

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Re: So you have a cookie.

Are...are you even listening? PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO GET JOBS, NOT THOSE WHO WANT TO!

You never said that before. You were making it sound like you were referring to anyone unemployed. Anyways, the chumps who live off welfare really don't have it very good. They don't get enough money to get more than the basics. Maybe saving up really well you could get a TV, but really those guys are just pathetic.

D-rock2308

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Re: So you have a cookie.

Are...are you even listening? PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO GET JOBS, NOT THOSE WHO WANT TO!

Yeah, let's screw all them people who want to decide what they want to do for themselves in their lives and force them not to do it! YEAH!

edit: Might as well, while we're at it, get mad at those people who wear blue shoes and refuse to wear our nice and awesome red ones.

Last edited by D-rock2308 (Nov 30 2012 11:39:14 pm)

Tako

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Re: So you have a cookie.

But you can't just complain without offering an alternate solution. That's what Takoman is asking for.

....No he wasn't. He said "inevitable poverty." Laziness =/= inevitable poverty. Solution: Make people actually try to work. No waiting for your check to come in the mail. There are lots of job openings everywhere.

Your opening post included "It's not fair that you should have a cookie and I don't. I know! I'll have someone almost infinitely more powerful than either of us to get that cookie from you, and give it to me!" Is this or is this not describing the welfare system in general? To me, it sounded like you were complaining about ungrateful recipients of welfare and the welfare system in general, because it requires "taking" from other people.

People being ungrateful for their help is such a simple problem with a simple solution. I don't see why you need to make a topic about it. This is one tiny problem in the sea of social issues caused by government regulations. That's probably the real reason why the staff deleted your versions - it's a pointless complaining topic.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

0176

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Re: So you have a cookie.

What's up with Americans and their obsession with cookies?

Echo!

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Re: So you have a cookie.

Going to agree with you, 0176

Deetz

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Re: So you have a cookie.

I.... Am so..... Confused....

Watashii

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Re: So you have a cookie.

You are the worst at making metaphors.

Different55

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Re: So you have a cookie.

I deleted it the first time because it was spam. I deleted it the second time because it was a dupe/spam. This time, there's a legit discussion.

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Master1

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Re: So you have a cookie.

why not just tell us what you mean instead of going on about cookies.

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ThuggishPrune

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Re: So you have a cookie.

This isn't a freaking legitimate discussion. He's posted this **** 3 times? Seriously. It's obvious he's doing this to be banned.

GKAbyss

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Re: So you have a cookie.

I only read a few posts but wanted to say:
I do not at all believe the problem is with giving money to those with less money. Supposedly there are people who do not work to intentionally get money, but the problem is not people who receive money from the government, it is those who are lazy and greedy. There are also wealthy people who can be said to have stolen excessive money from others. Rather than getting rid of welfare systems that allow those who are disadvantaged from living, something should be done to prevent people who abuse the system.

Echo!

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Re: So you have a cookie.

This isn't a freaking legitimate discussion. He's posted this **** 3 times? Seriously. It's obvious he's doing this to be banned.

Wel;l uhh duuh. He made a topic that said "ban me" all over. he wants to be banned, for the simple reason being, he can not withstand my awesomeness.

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xputnameherex

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Re: So you have a cookie.

@krubby: That's not to say that it doesn't happen.

@D-Rock: You sir, are an idiot. I don't even know why I'm actually going to give you an actual response: People who abuse a system for their gain out of pure laziness do not deserve compensation - for their laziness. Deciding to not work isn't a decision for your career ("what they want to do with their life") Your equation to it being mad at people who don't wear colored shoes is idiotic.

@TakoMan: First paragraph: My OP also included "but I don't want to have to get up to get that cookie" (or something like that). So no, just people who abuse the system.

@0176 and Echo: Laughed for atleast a minute.

@Deetz: About people who abuse welfare system.

@Watashii: I like cookies.

@Different55: It's almost word for word the same exact topic.

@Master1: About people who abuse welfare system.

@ThuggishPrune: Before I wanted to get banned but not have the topic deleted. Now I've resorted to making it slightly less cursing to keep the topic up.

@GKAbyss: Correct

@Echo: No, I made a username that said "Ban XPUTNAMEHEREX," but yes, for that reason.

D-rock2308

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Re: So you have a cookie.

You sir, are an idiot. I don't even know why I'm actually going to give you an actual response: People who abuse a system for their gain out of pure laziness do not deserve compensation - for their laziness. Deciding to not work isn't a decision for your career ("what they want to do with their life") Your equation to it being mad at people who don't wear colored shoes is idiotic.

Really, another person who can't come up with an argument without insulting the other person? I thought only little kids did that..
People who don't choose to work do other things, per say, try to write books, make art, in their free time, or actually enjoy their lives the way they want, and you want that to be taken away from them? I'd prefer socialism over freakin' tyranny.

xputnameherex

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Re: So you have a cookie.

You sir, are an idiot. I don't even know why I'm actually going to give you an actual response: People who abuse a system for their gain out of pure laziness do not deserve compensation - for their laziness. Deciding to not work isn't a decision for your career ("what they want to do with their life") Your equation to it being mad at people who don't wear colored shoes is idiotic.

Really, another person who can't come up with an argument without insulting the other person? I thought only little kids did that..
People who don't choose to work do other things, per say, try to write books, make art, in their free time, or actually enjoy their lives the way they want, and you want that to be taken away from them? I'd prefer socialism over freakin' tyranny.

That can be done in retirement. I'd like to know if there is a single person in this topic that agrees with you other than yourself. (So yes, this is a complaining topic)

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D-rock2308

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Re: So you have a cookie.

You can't do a lot of things when you're retired. Most jobs require you to work until a very old age and you aren't able to do all the things you used to. If you know how the body grows and works then many things you can't do. Again, why do you care that others choose to do what they want, and you don't like it because it's not what you think they should do. What gives you power over them to think they should do exactly as you say or else we'll be "socialist".

Edit: Doesn't matter if no one is with me, doesn't mean I'm wrong or you're right.

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xputnameherex

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Re: So you have a cookie.

You can't do a lot of things when you're retired. Most jobs require you to work until a very old age and you aren't able to do all the things you used to. If you know how the body grows and works then many things you can't do. Again, why do you care that others choose to do what they want, and you don't like it because it's not what you think they should do. What gives you power over them to think they should do exactly as you say or else we'll be "socialist".

Edit: Doesn't matter if no one is with me, doesn't mean I'm wrong or you're right.

How old are you, seriously.

They can do whatever they want at any age. Sure. But they can do it on their own money, or at least try to do it with their own money. Why the hell should I pay for them to do whatever they want while I work?

D-rock2308

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Re: So you have a cookie.

You can't do a lot of things when you're retired. Most jobs require you to work until a very old age and you aren't able to do all the things you used to. If you know how the body grows and works then many things you can't do. Again, why do you care that others choose to do what they want, and you don't like it because it's not what you think they should do. What gives you power over them to think they should do exactly as you say or else we'll be "socialist".

Edit: Doesn't matter if no one is with me, doesn't mean I'm wrong or you're right.

How old are you, seriously.

They can do whatever they want at any age. Sure. But they can do it on their own money, or at least try to do it with their own money. Why the hell should I pay for them to do whatever they want while I work?

17? Enough to have my own opinion? Like those other people who choose not to work because it's not their "thing". Yeah, and trying to force over your ideas onto others by making them not do what they want is quite ridiculous if you ask me. If we had a leader do the same thing that'd be pretty much tyranny - actually no, because we have a nice government system that it would never work unless everyone was a hatred-filled power hungry fool.

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xputnameherex

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Re: So you have a cookie.

You can't do a lot of things when you're retired. Most jobs require you to work until a very old age and you aren't able to do all the things you used to. If you know how the body grows and works then many things you can't do. Again, why do you care that others choose to do what they want, and you don't like it because it's not what you think they should do. What gives you power over them to think they should do exactly as you say or else we'll be "socialist".

Edit: Doesn't matter if no one is with me, doesn't mean I'm wrong or you're right.

How old are you, seriously.

They can do whatever they want at any age. Sure. But they can do it on their own money, or at least try to do it with their own money. Why the hell should I pay for them to do whatever they want while I work?

17? Enough to have my own opinion? Like those other people who choose not to work because it's not their "thing". Yeah, and trying to force over your ideas onto others by making them not do what they want is quite ridiculous if you ask me. If we had a leader do the same thing that'd be pretty much tyranny - actually no, because we have a nice government system that it would never work unless everyone was a hatred-filled power hungry fool.

This time I'll only respond with one point so that you can't find a workaround in your response:

Why should I pay for them to do whatever they want while I work?

D-rock2308

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Re: So you have a cookie.

This time I'll only respond with one point so that you can't find a workaround in your response:

Why should I pay for them to do whatever they want while I work?

Why shouldn't they be able too? You haven't told me that either, but I'll try my best to tell you why they should.

1. Not everyone can work. Some people have diseases or disorders that allow them to NOT be able to work, you want them to suffer without money? Or is your plan to exclude people with disorders as such and make other people who don't work? That's unfair and annoying.

2. People have their own opinions, and people can choose to not work. Jobs are more so a hobby, and some people don't want to take them up as hobbies. They don't get a lot of money as it is.

3. 2 leads right into this, they don't get a ton of money, only enough to survive with food/bill payments and not a whole lot for other stuff unless they spend it right.
Also you haven't explained what good would come from making them not able to receive money. It's not like we can shove them into jobs, haven't you heard people say that we are having a tough economy or are you living under a rock? There are many people getting laid-off, not a lot of jobs have positions available for a person. Much less the person would actually like to do, which goes to number 2. Would you do something you hate for 10 bucks an hour? Would you want to consider ditch-digging your "hobby"? How would we implement this into a heavily populated nation that already have enough problems as it is. I'm not letting you touch my golden cookie of power ever.

xputnameherex

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Re: So you have a cookie.

@Drock:

Paragraph1: I did in the post that you just quoted.

1. + first half of conclusion: OMFG, I've said it a million times, people who CHOOSE not to work.

2. I'm still laughing uncontrollably.

3. Mhmm. Ask your teacher how much money he/she makes.

Second half of conclusion: Would you do something you hate for 8$/h, or would you literally steal the same amount from people who do it even though they hate it? Clearly you'd like to take the first option (thinking that you'll be making that much forever, btw), because you sir, a greedy bastard. Ever heard of communism? It's not good. Seriously. Just...go to North Korea. You'd feel more at home there. You can go ahead and not choose to work if you want to. But you shouldn't take money from someone who DOES work.

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Tako

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Re: So you have a cookie.

@D-Rock: You sir, are an idiot.

because you sir, a greedy bastard.

xputnameherex, might I remind you that you have 5 warnings. Be careful with what you say.

If memory serves accurate, I was much like you when it came to debating. Attacking the other person (by getting increasingly irritated each time someone doesn't understand you/argues against you) is not only a logical fallacy, but also rude and antiprogressive. As a key of advice, if you don't have the patience and thoughtfulness to argue a point, do not bother. It will only result in warnings and stress.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

D-rock2308

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Re: So you have a cookie.

@Drock:

Paragraph1: I did in the post that you just quoted.

1. + first half of conclusion: OMFG, I've said it a million times, people who CHOOSE not to work.

2. I'm still laughing uncontrollably.

3. Mhmm. Ask your teacher how much money he/she makes.

Second half of conclusion: Would you do something you hate for 8$/h, or would you literally steal the same amount from people who do it even though they hate it? Clearly you'd like to take the first option (thinking that you'll be making that much forever, btw), because you sir, a greedy bastard. Ever heard of communism? It's not good. Seriously. Just...go to North Korea. You'd feel more at home there. You can go ahead and not choose to work if you want to. But you shouldn't take money from someone who DOES work.

1. Or is your plan to exclude people with disorders as such and make other people who don't work? That's unfair and annoying.

Did you even answer this part of #1?

2. I'm glad you get a sense of humor in this, but seriously, how is your way better than the way it is?

3. My mom is a teacher, sure, they don't make much but they do the job because they like it as their hobby. Are you even picking up what I'm saying or slamming it down and forgetting about it every time you write a new post?

I don't quite understand how I'd be a greedy bastard. What did I do? Protect people's opinions? LEMME HOARD ALL YO PEOPLE'S OPINIONS SO I CAN PROTECT THEM FOR MY OWN GAIN BLARGHHHHH!!! On a more serious note, have you even studied communism? Have you seen the leaders behind it? Almost everyone of them is power hungry. China seems to be doing fine, but I don't agree with tons of their stuff. Many democracies have failed equally or worse to how North Korea is doing now, and I don't protect them because what they are doing is insane, refusing support for their nuclear arms program? Good job Kim Jong whoever the hell you are.

In your last statement you are contradicting yourself. If I go ahead and choose not to work for myself, how am I going to get the money. Are you cold-hearted enough to let people die because they don't work?

@Tako, He's not really offending me, much like I care being called names on the internet - you can have at him if you please but no harm to me.

GKAbyss

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Re: So you have a cookie.

Would it be better to give people free education in addition to money? This way they will be better qualified and more likely to find a job.