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#26 2024-03-27 23:19:08

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Both Pqwerty and N1KF are reluctant to vote for another; which is giving me the strongest scum vibe overall; even tho my heart says Pqwerty is innocent

I am torn here


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#27 2024-03-27 23:31:29

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Diff seems Innocent!

everyone I have as a potential scum-read is in favor of lynching diff


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#28 2024-03-27 23:33:01

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Town:

Bobithan
Diff

Heart says town, brain says unsure:
Pqwerty

Scum:
N1KF
Schlog
Edilights


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#29 2024-03-27 23:36:45

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Let's gooo! (going back to my original N1KF idea given that it seems obtainable to lynch him now)

!vote N1KF


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#30 2024-03-27 23:39:23

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Votes:

  • Different55 (3): Edilights, N1KF, Schlog [L-1]

  • N1KF (2): Pqwerty, Processor

  • Pqwerty (1): Bobithan


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#31 2024-03-27 23:47:11

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N1KF wrote:

You capitalized Innocent... are you trying to hint at a Town Tracker role?

No, that was accidental. I am not hinting at anything.


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#32 2024-03-28 00:48:27

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I am going to bed!

I don't want my current vote on N1KF to tie your hands on who to lynch.
Day discussion has been happening among 5 people, and so it is fair to lynch whoever a 3-person majority agrees on.
I set an alarm for 5:55am CET to briefly log on and hammer whoever has a 3-person majority.

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In case two players have 3 votes each, I will vote in the following preference order*:
N1KF > Edilights > Schlog > Pqwerty > Diff > Bobithan > Processor

*: Unless new town discussion pursues me otherwise


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#33 2024-03-28 00:55:31

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Bobithan's refusal to vote on N1KF makes a N1KF lynch impossible.

!unvote

Given these circumstances, I think lynching one of [Schlog, Pqwerty] offers the most info

!vote Schlog

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#34 2024-03-28 00:57:25

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@Bobithan can you post your order of preference for lynching?


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#35 2024-03-28 01:20:24

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I shall follow your lead

!vote Pqwerty

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#36 2024-03-28 01:22:27

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My order is:

N1KF > Schlog > Pqwerty > Edilights > Diff > Bobithan > Processor

I revised Edilights to 4th place because the lynch would give us little intel to work with, even if successful.


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#37 2024-03-29 10:27:17

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I believe we are still one mislynch away from losing.

Please do not vote. Otherwise mafia can end the game very quickly if the votes are on the wrong people.

Let's use the time we have to discuss first...

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My reads remain as follows:

Town:

Bobithan
N1KF
Pqwerty (unsure)


Scum:

Schlog
Edilights

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@Bobithan, can you role claim (unless it's a stupid idea)


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#38 2024-03-29 13:40:11

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@Edilights: What is your role? Please roleclaim


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#39 2024-03-29 13:59:39

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Edilights wrote:

Town and I point on Schlog and Pqwerty why ?

I am going to assume you mean Vanilla Townie. Please correct me if this inaccurate.

@N1KF please role-claim


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#40 2024-03-29 15:04:31

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@Pqwerty: What is your role? Please role claim.


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#41 2024-03-29 15:17:15

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Pqwerty I love you but you make my brain hurt

I am waiting on N1KF's role claim before I publish an in-depth analysis on every player.

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@N1KF please role-claim


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#42 2024-03-29 18:45:07

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@Schlog: what is your role? Please role claim


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#43 2024-03-29 19:38:56

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Please, if you are town,  do not place any votes. I am waiting for N1KFβ€˜s roleclaim before I post my analysis
I put a lot of effort into it! I dont want all that effort to go to waste //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad


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#44 2024-03-29 21:44:32

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Hello!

I have held off posting any analysis while I did some investigative journalism.
Now that my journalistic activity is concluded, let’s analyze each and every player.

β€”

Let us begin with the easiest case:

Bobithan

Bobithan is claiming Town Jailkeeper.
Schlog, Edilights, Pqwerty, Processor and N1KF do not contest Bobithan’s role claim.
Therefore, Bobithan is Town Jailkeeper!

β€”

Next up…

Schlog

Schlog is scum. Refer to #187 (by N1KF) or #192 (by Bobithan) for an excellent in-depth analysis.

He basically intentionally outed himself last night hammering Diff55 saying β€œthis is just kinda funny tbh”.
He tried explaining himself today but then later self-claimed being scum.

β€”

Hunt of Schlog's teammate

I asked each one of you to claim your role.
Unfortunately, only one of the scum (Schlog) claimed to be scum, the other scum is lying. //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad
There is one more scum among [Pqwerty, Edilights, N1KF].

β€”

Pqwerty

Let’s go back to last night:

Bobithan convinced me to move my vote from Schlog to Pqwerty, N1KF would soon join us.
Pqwerty voted for Diff55, putting him on L-1.

The easy choice for Schlog would have been to put his vote on Pqwerty.
He didn’t. Instead he did something surprising. He hammered on Diff55.

I expect scum to be risk-minimizing agents.

Processor wrote:

Town has to inherently take risky moves to identify and eliminate scum to win. Mafia on the other hand simply has to play it safe until every member of the town is eliminated.
I am therefore considering risky moves to be rather town-leaning and lack of risky moves to be rather scum-suspicious.

Why did Schlog vote for Diff? (A move that looks super risky on the first look)

Scenario 1:

Pqwerty is town. Let’s look at the situation from Schlog’s perspective:
β€œI am schlog. Once Pqwerty is lynched and flips town, I am the obvious next suspect (proc and bobithan both agree on this and I can’t kill both). No matter what I do, I will be lynched D3. Oh, hey, Diff is L-1! I can lynch Diff. Tonight I will kill proc who trusts Pqwerty. Tomorrow I will be lynched. On day 4, Bobithan will mislynch Pqwerty and I will win //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile”

-> In this scenario, the self-outing of Schlog isn't that risky at all. His role would have been obvious by the end of the day anyway.

Scenario 2:

Pqwerty is scum. Let’s look at the situation from Schlog’s perspective:
β€œI am schlog. Pqwerty is about to be lynched. Bobithan is so adamant on lynching him, it’s a lost cause to defend him.” and I [processor] can’t see why Schlog would go out and publicly fall for Qwerty. Did he want to save his teammate - Pqwerty - by sacrificing himself?!

-> In this scenario, the self-outing of Schlog is super risky and reckless.

Conclusion:

A schlog-self-scum-reveal is not that surprising in Scenario 1, but super surprising in Scenario 2. I am therefore expecting Scenario 1 to be the reality.

This is so compelling to me that I am calling Pqwerty town.

The most compelling counter-point is that during the last hours of D2, Pqwerty voted for Diff55 (because he wouldn’t want to self-vote).
Putting Diff55 on a L-1 is a pretty anti-town move. But I am assuming stupidity and selfishness over malice.

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N1KF

I put N1KF as Townie after Bobithan vouched for him

Bobithan wrote:

Take this as you may but I completely refuse to put a vote on N1KF. I can see myself bringing down the hammer on anybody tonight except for N1KF. Which means that vote isn't happening without a revival of edi or diff so we gotta choose somebody else.

I considered this to be a very obvious PR claim. Now you’re telling me that this was not a PR claim, your N1KF read was not based on your role? But you happen to be the Jailkeeper nevertheless? What the hell! 🀯

N1KF is totally suspicious for playing super safe.

However, #117:

Schlog wrote:

this leads my scum reads; i think the team is either pqwerty-n1kf or processor-n1kf and it seems like it's just a hard 50/50

For this reason alone, I am expecting that N1KF is town.

β€”

This leaves us with

Edilights

Edilights is a risk minimizing agent.

Edilights has had little activity. Started today with voting for Schlog. [Suspected motivation: to gain trust by pursuing scum; but this is a super low risk move given that Schlog outed himself].

Through a process of elimination, but also because of how sketchy their play today has been, Edilights is scum.


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#45 2024-03-29 21:49:39

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Town:

Bobithan (confirmed through PR)
N1KF (targeted by Schlog)
Pqwerty (Schlog mind game reverse engineering)

Scum:

Schlog (outed himself)
Edilights (playing too safe, only option remaining)


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#46 2024-03-29 22:34:51

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#47 2024-03-29 22:41:26

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Schlog wrote:

you are seriously overthinking my game plan

This schlog comment (made before Bobithan's) looks like an effort to make me doubt my analysis; if my analysis was right, he could just stay silent and see what happens

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@Bobithan: Schlog could have just helped town lynch Pqwerty.
He could then pursue town to lynch me (who has spent the game vouching for Pqwerty as much as I can), or Edilights or Diff.
Schlog would not be the obvious teammate of Pqwerty and there was no reason for him to throw... unless if Pqwerty is not his teammate and he is trying to frame him

I really don't understand why you're so sure of Pqwerty and are giving Edi (who looks at least as scummy) a break


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#48 2024-03-29 22:50:51

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Pqwerty wrote:

Also even in the rare case that Bobithan is JK (maybe the actual JK or Tracker doesn’t feel comfortable claiming), why does he immediately suspect that he jailed a wolf and not that the mafia were comfortable enough in their position to kill off Schlog? Cuz the mafia could still easily go for me today with Schlog gone

I also got suspicious of Bobithan's claim which is why I asked everyone to role claim, making sure that nobody is contesting his role.
If someone is the actual Jailkeeper, please come forward, in that case I will be happy to lynch Bobithan after Schlog...

Unless that happens, I am considering Bobithan confirmed townie, so he will not be lynched.


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#49 2024-03-29 22:53:54

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Edilights is town.

One of [Bobithan, Pqwerty] is scum.


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#50 2024-03-29 22:59:52

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I know this is heated but, townies: Let's finish discussing because we put any votes down, okay? DO NOT VOTE YET PLEASE //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile


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