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#1 2020-06-02 02:51:58, last edited by Minimania (2021-03-22 05:04:29)

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Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

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Welcome to Mafia 48 - Birthday Party! For those of you who don't know, today is my birthday (June 2), which is why I invited all of you here! We're having a party and a sleepover! I hope you all enjoy yourselves! //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/cool

Here are the rules:

Game Rules

Here are the roles:

Roles

Here are some rulings regarding the game if anyone is confused:

Rulings

And finally, here are a list of commands that you can perform during the game:

Commands

Here's the player list!

1. TaskManager
2. Onjit
3. Buzzerbee - Vanilla Town
4. andymakeer - Nurse
5. Luka504 - Vanilla Town

6. ShadowsEdge - Mafia Goon
7. Pqwerty
8. gabriellfs
9. 2B55B5G TNG - Vanilla Town
10. Peace - Vanilla Town

11. AllenCaspe9510
12. Norwegianboy - Serial Killer
13. MrJawapa - Cop

Now have fun, or else I'll open your present last!


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#2 2020-06-02 11:52:13

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

!confirm
!vote peace

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Luka504 wrote:

I can't wait for the game to end so I can hear Norwegianboy and Jawapa complain about how much everyone sucks, again.

Hey it's fun though!!


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Norboy we better discuss this in the quicktopic
Don't want people to suspect anything


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Andymakeer wrote:

also, taskmanager did not voted for luka

his vote count doesn't say i did

Luka504 wrote:

Hey, what are you two whispering over there?

nothing //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile
lets just vote peace like we usually do


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peace wrote:

ok

!vote task

u sure?

Are you voting me back to shift the attention of other people from yourself? Now THAT is suspicious


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

are you high


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Pqwerty wrote:

Ok, so let's start off with some strategy and work our way from there.

Because the cop isn’t safe (due to milkman potentially converting it to mafia N2), we should all claim cop to confuse the mafia / potentially make them waste their convert on a VT. Then, we post our inspects so in the odd case that the cop dies, we will still have their inspects because they posted them along with everyone’s fake inspects. It wouldn’t be a good idea for everyone to not claim at all because if the cop dies later on and didn’t post their inspects, we won’t have any information to go off of.
Additionally, if the real cop gets someone as dangerous N1, we should all retract our fake claims so that the real cop gets confirmed. Then, if the scum claims vig (because vig shows up as dangerous if they haven’t shot), the real vig should cc. If the real vig was found, there will probably be no cc, and if there is, the outed real vig should just shoot the cc during the night. This will confirm the cop and vig, and lead to a guaranteed scum kill, as long as we don’t lynch between the vig claims.
Also, this works beyond D2, we just need to make sure the cop/vig isn’t found by the milkman.

So, without further ado, I claim cop.

people already said this but ill reiterate, this is quite pointless because how is everyone claiming cop any more beneficial to town than nobody claiming cop?


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

ok but i still dont see the point doing this day 1 because cop didnt have the time to visit anyone yet???


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Pqwerty wrote:

We don't need to post reads d1 because that's impossible, but I just wanted to get the strat going today so we can move on to the next thing.

alright understandable
well in that case simply making everyone say "im a cop" is utterly pointless so miss me with this


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

i'll consider doing this day 2 though when there's an actual gain to it


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

hey what if cop ends up not dying and we're in LyLo
wouldnt that be funny
"ok guys pqwerty's plan aside im the real cop"
"no its me im the cop!!"


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I agree with points Shadow made and am going to opt out of the whole cop thing because every incorrect guess of a mafia member appearing as not dangerous narrows the pool down
I also don't like Norboy forcing a townblock on D1. Besides the issues mentioned earlier, a townblock created earlier in the game is less likely to be questioned in late game because people barely look into early posts at that point and appeal to tradition kicks in (woah luka, a fallacy? :flush:)
That said, I don't scumread Norboy yet, even though I feel like day 1 townblocking easily could be scum motivated, I just have a gut feeling after all these games that whatever town!norboy does, it comes off as scummy
Pqwerty is a town lean for me
Don't know what to make of Onjit and Luka yet, though Luka raised valid points about townblocking


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Also @norboy if you and another player (in this case Onjit) townread eachother that doesn't mean your reads on other players align and all parties agree to vote together
I find your "Vote luka with me" slightly odd, from a member of a townblock I'd rather expect an invitation to a discussion (i.e. "What do you think about Luka?")


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

@crybaby
does the night result specify whether a person was killed by mafia or sk or vigi?


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

follow up question if multiple DANGEROUS people target the same victim, does it specify all factions involved or is there a specific precedence of kills


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Andymakeer wrote:

I didn't do that, stop victimizing yourself, you were the one the called me useless

Hey he's right though
And no need to take it personally

Andymakeer wrote:

I still encourage no lynch D1, the pool is so big that I doubt we'll even get any worth information from a lynch today.

But if it makes you happy, I'll follow along any wagon today.
It won't really make any difference because the mafia will also follow the same wagon

This just screams "I don't care about solving the game but to make you happy I'll pretend to be cooperative by following any wagon just so you townread me"


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mrjawapa wrote:

Again, I don't want to read too far into this, but pay attention to this.

I was in my **** three layer irony phase


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

!vote gabrielffs
Gabriellfs wrote:

One of the reasons that I don't post before is because d1 seems pretty boring and dull with just people fighting each other , I would rather !endday like Allen said than seeing some dudes fighting because of mafia strategies

Surprise, the entire game is usually people fighting about mafia strats!


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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Gabriel what's your opinion on other members of the town?


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NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Evidently, players that accuse other players of flailing are statistically more likely to be scum themselves than the player accused of flailing.

This isn't necessarily true in our community and Kira is the most prominent example of that and I don't like when people are trying to make a point by using statistics
However a player accusing another player of flailing is very counterproductive and doesn't raise real points as to why the accused is scum. From my perception it's more of an attempt to appeal to the gray masses of less active people to convince them to join the wagon and is inherently scummy indeed


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Andymakeer wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:

You're more worried about being scum read than solving the game?

Oh but have we had any progress? https://wiki.everybodyedits.com/images/c/c0/069_LOL

We've made more progress than what is usually made on D1
We've discussed a cop massclaim and Norboy's townblock and based on that some people have made some basic reads on some people that were involved
Of course we won't solve the game in one day and if never works like that, but we're still making quite some progress
I've also concluded that Gabriel is inactive and should probably be discarded in early game and that you clearly value people reading you as town over solving the game which is a trait of scum and newish mafia players


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Luka504 wrote:

while I think are very false or fallacious (don't even start, @task)

FALLACY FALLACY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU FELLL INTO MY TRAP


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NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I’d rather vote a scummy player than an inactive player. Lynches on inactives are bad and if it flips town basically gives us nothing to work with the next day. While i agree with voting for pressure on principle, we really don’t have enough time for that anymore and that is why i think we should rather be voting Andymakeer right now.

I'm down for lynching Andy because of the things that happened earlier today
On the other hand inactive players like Gabrielf shouldn't be carried into late game where every single player matters, so it is better that we discard him and players like him as soon as possible if he doesn't make up his mind and start participating in the game


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Andymakeer wrote:

Too many potential deaths N1, if we accidentally lynch any town D1, PR or not, we'll be getting absolutely no information but also decreasing the pool as hell.

If we accidentally lynch a townie that's not the end of the world and we do gain information by analyzing connections the dead townie had with other members, this sometimes goes as far as confirming other player(s) to be townie(s) which reduces the pool of lynch candidates and brings us closer to winning


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