Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Norwee · 2020-06-04 12:52:15

- No reads
- Encourages no lynch but will "follow any wagon"
- Not even worried about lynching town

Andymakeer wrote:

It won't really make any difference because the mafia will also follow the same wagon

- Blatantly flaunting the fact that mafia won't get lynched today.

!Vote Andymakeer

Andymakeer

Andymakeer · 2020-06-04 12:59:24

Andymakeer wrote:

I think that previous discussion was a cover for someones real intention, like a decoy for mafia, sk or even a scum trap.
I mean, have we reached a conclusion?
CAN we reach a conclusion from all of what was discussed here?
Answer this to me and just don't go "Oh BuT iT's My PlAyStYlE".

well, you end up not answering me

Norwee · 2020-06-04 13:10:26

You already came to a conclusion. Said it was a smokescreen, nbut now you’re backpedalling and saying it tells nothing. Got an explanation for that?

Andymakeer · 2020-06-04 13:18:40

WELL, MAYBE CREATING A POINTLESS DISCUSSION TO DECOY A REAL INTENTION IS THE PURPOSE OF A SMOKESCREEN, RIGHT? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I think you are nervous Norboy, this is not like you.
Avoiding questions, creatings conclusions from things that no one said, trying to be a good boy for someone that voted on you...
Pretty weird imo

Norwee · 2020-06-04 13:20:33

Every single game here people say "this isn't like u", they have never been correct. Stop making up BS and come up with some real points.

Norwee · 2020-06-04 13:21:37

Although it's good to see me voting you made you finally come up with a read. Even if it's OMGUS.

TaskManager · 2020-06-04 13:24:02

Andymakeer wrote:

I didn't do that, stop victimizing yourself, you were the one the called me useless

Hey he's right though
And no need to take it personally

Andymakeer wrote:

I still encourage no lynch D1, the pool is so big that I doubt we'll even get any worth information from a lynch today.
But if it makes you happy, I'll follow along any wagon today.
It won't really make any difference because the mafia will also follow the same wagon

This just screams "I don't care about solving the game but to make you happy I'll pretend to be cooperative by following any wagon just so you townread me"

TaskManager · 2020-06-04 13:26:33

mrjawapa wrote:

Again, I don't want to read too far into this, but pay attention to this.

I was in my **** three layer irony phase

mrjawapa

Norwee · 2020-06-04 13:26:38

Andymakeer wrote:

I think you are nervous Norboy, this is not like you.

You are essentially calling me out for flailing right now. I don't agree but whatever.
Let's check the satistics shall we?

"When players are accused of flailing, how often are these players scum?"

Group    Scum rate Improvement
All players    25.76% —
Players identified as flailing    28.71% 11.5%
Players identified as flailing by town 34.92% 35.6%
Players accusing others of flailing 34.65% 34.5%
Players accusing town of flailing    42.25% 64.0%

Evidently, players that accuse other players of flailing are statistically more likely to be scum themselves than the player accused of flailing.

Source: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flailing

Andymakeer · 2020-06-04 13:27:38

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Although it's good to see me voting you made you finally come up with a read. Even if it's OMGUS.

?
Have I said if I think you are town or scum?
Again, getting conclusions from things that players did not say.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Stop making up BS and come up with some real points.

Everytime someone counters you, you come up with a pointless agression towards the player itself.
Why should anyone bother?

TaskManager · 2020-06-04 13:28:48

!vote gabrielffs

Gabriellfs wrote:

One of the reasons that I don't post before is because d1 seems pretty boring and dull with just people fighting each other , I would rather !endday like Allen said than seeing some dudes fighting because of mafia strategies

Surprise, the entire game is usually people fighting about mafia strats!

mrjawapa, peace

Norwee · 2020-06-04 13:29:09

Andymakeer wrote:

Everytime someone counters you, you come up with a pointless agression towards the player itself.

Well gee, i'm sorry. I thought this was a game of mafia i signed up to.

mrjawapa

TaskManager · 2020-06-04 13:29:25

Gabriel what's your opinion on other members of the town?

TaskManager · 2020-06-04 13:40:00

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Evidently, players that accuse other players of flailing are statistically more likely to be scum themselves than the player accused of flailing.

This isn't necessarily true in our community and Kira is the most prominent example of that and I don't like when people are trying to make a point by using statistics
However a player accusing another player of flailing is very counterproductive and doesn't raise real points as to why the accused is scum. From my perception it's more of an attempt to appeal to the gray masses of less active people to convince them to join the wagon and is inherently scummy indeed

Andymakeer · 2020-06-04 13:47:23

TaskManager wrote:

"I don't care about solving the game but to make you happy I'll pretend to be cooperative by following any wagon just so you townread me"

I do care tho, but all that **** that happened until page 8 has helped at nothing at all.
That's why I'll just follow the hype for D1, what else can I do?
- If I follow, I get scum read
- If I don't follow, I also get scum read

help me momma

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

You are essentially calling me out for flailing right now

I said I support nolynch, I'd only accuse you of flailing if lynching you would help my argument.
It doesn't.

Norwee · 2020-06-04 13:48:38

Andymakeer wrote:

- If I follow, I get scum read
- If I don't follow, I also get scum read
help me momma

You're more worried about being scum read than solving the game?
Scum.

TaskManager

Andymakeer · 2020-06-04 13:51:33

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

You're more worried about being scum read than solving the game?

Oh but have we had any progress?

TaskManager · 2020-06-04 13:58:59

Andymakeer wrote:

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
You're more worried about being scum read than solving the game?
Oh but have we had any progress?

We've made more progress than what is usually made on D1
We've discussed a cop massclaim and Norboy's townblock and based on that some people have made some basic reads on some people that were involved
Of course we won't solve the game in one day and if never works like that, but we're still making quite some progress
I've also concluded that Gabriel is inactive and should probably be discarded in early game and that you clearly value people reading you as town over solving the game which is a trait of scum and newish mafia players

Luka504, ShadowsEdge

Andymakeer · 2020-06-04 14:15:48

TaskManager wrote:

We've discussed a cop massclaim and Norboy's townblock and based on that some people have made some basic reads on some people that were involved

I know, I've read everything, but we still have not decided which one the is better strategy for D1, nor who is a good lynch target.

TaskManager wrote:

I've also concluded that Gabriel is inactive and should probably be discarded in early game

This proves we are still on square one.
All of that discussion about strategies, reads and stuff, but in the end we are targeting the inactives.

TaskManager wrote:

you clearly value people reading you as town over solving the game which is a trait of scum and newish mafia players

Its so tenuous to differ "solving the game" and "gamethrowing".
I aggree that I want to look like a town, but that doesn't make me less interested into solving the game.
You say as if I should "make myself a suspect" as if it would help solving the game.
We so few information like now, i think it doesnt.

Norwee · 2020-06-04 14:19:12

Andymakeer wrote:

This proves we are still on square one.
All of that discussion about strategies, reads and stuff, but in the end we are targeting the inactives.

You repetitively stating that we don't have enough information isn't going to make it ring true. Me and Task is literally creating information right now by suggesting your posts and stance make you scummy. Does that make me/Task town/scum? Maybe if we lynch you and you flip we'll find out more.

mrjawapa · 2020-06-04 14:19:43

I have a feeling this is going no where.

Andymakeer

Andymakeer · 2020-06-04 14:23:39

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

You repetitively stating that we don't have enough information isn't going to make it ring true.

I know i'm right, thanks

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Me and Task is literally creating information right now by suggesting your posts and stance make you scummy.

So now i'm the suspect, okay.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Does that make me/Task town/scum?

No.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Maybe if we lynch you and you flip we'll find out more.

You'll find out that OMGUS, thats for sure

2b55b5g · 2020-06-04 14:28:12

We are not on square one.

When people suggest strategies, we can look at their intentions and see if they are town or scum.

Luka504 · 2020-06-04 14:51:51

I really can't tell if Andy is scum or just a really nooby town player. His general tone and demeanor and the laughing emoji spam make me feel that he's scum, but he's reaching conclusions which, while I think are very false or fallacious (don't even start, @task), I can understand how he arrived at them, such as encouraging not lynching on the first day.

In the end, I don't think lynching Andy is a bad idea, I'd rather hear more of him before going with it. Besides, Andy's actually contributing to the conversation for once, which is more than some other individuals can say to have done:

!vote gabriel

He seriously needs to say something already. The same goes for Allencaspe. Share your opinions, reads, literally anything of substance will do. Don't tell me you guys just joined a mafia game to sit around and do nothing.

Luka504 · 2020-06-04 14:57:27

Also if I'm not mistaken we have around 15-16 hours left until the end of the day.

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