Mafia 40 - Russian Roulette Mafia Victory!

Kira · 2020-01-21 14:18:42

Welcome to Mafia 40 - Russian Roulette

Host: Kira

Setup:

- 13 players
- 2 Mafia A
- 2 Mafia B
- 9 Vanilla Townie

Information:

- This mafia is Nightless meaning that there is no night phase, thus no night kill for mafia.
- Each In-game Day will last 72 hours.
- You cannot revoke your vote, once you place it, It is absolute.
- There has to be a lynch everyday, nolynch is not allowed.
- #8A5C5C is my color. Impersonating me will get you modkilled.
- You have to post at least once every 24 hours. Failing to do so twice will get you modkilled.
- In case of a tie, both players will be lynched.
- You are forced to vote if majority has not been reached and day is about to end.
- All forum rules apply.
- Vote in h tags.
- You are expected to put a minimum of effort in your posts. (I'm looking at you Peace)
- I may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.

Roles

Welcome to game! You are a Vanilla Townie.
You have no active abilities.
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Welcome to game! You are a Mafia Goon A/B
You have no active abilities.
You may communicate with your ally through: [Quicktopiclink]
You win if all threats to the mafia are eliminated and at least one scum-aligned player from your universe (A/B) is alive.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Alive Players

- BuzzerBee
- mrjawapa
- peace (1 warning)
- Different55
- Eleizibeth (1 prod)
- Onjit

Dead Players

-Norwegianboy (Town)
-Processor (Mafia Goon)
-mutantdevle (Town)
-2B55B5G TNG (Town)
-TaskManager (Town)
-ShadowsEdge (Town)
-Crybaby (Town)

Remember have fun! Game will start once every players have confirmed their role.

Processor · 2020-01-21 23:10:40

Give me attention

rat

Processor · 2020-01-22 00:11:28

I'm ok with getting rid of Task

They lack the motivation to catch scum

Jawapa is more likely to just be playing idiotically (cf. last game)
So I'm giving them a pass this time

But Task... He is a smart boy

Processor · 2020-01-23 00:21:14

!vote TaskManager

The whole drama around norboy seems meaningless to me
Mutantdevle is suspicious
Task is suspicious
Peace is suspicious

rat, 2b55b5g

Processor · 2020-01-24 22:44:16

How is this sneaky?
Download some eyes please.

I'm still sticking to my TaskManager scum read.

Eleizibeth sus.
jawapa sus.

Mutant is probably town.
peace is probably town.

Onjit wrote:

processor do you know who pingohits is?

Oh no not again...

Processor · 2020-01-25 16:29:46

BuzzerBee wrote:

I'm also waiting for Processor to reply about his flipped reads. Very odd to do that without any elaboration

I do this all the time tbh.
(check my past games)

It's because I sometimes lack the time to explain everything.

Processor · 2020-01-25 16:33:29

That being said, what do you guys think of lynching TaskManager today?

I thought we were gonna lynch him yesterday but we didn't...
Do we have any reason to stop suspecting them now?

Processor · 2020-01-25 20:02:24

Both mutant and peace have shown genuine interest in solving the game

peace also voted on Task, who is my scumread at the moment

Mutant was rather passive toward the game at the start, but looking back I guess it was because the game had just started and he was not emotionally invested in the game
At least that's my theory, what do the others think?

Processor · 2020-01-25 22:11:31

Just a quick reminder: (and nitpick to Shadow's analysis)

We have two groups of scum, each of two players.
Coordination between scum is therefore very hard, as each has only one partner.
In this game, it's unlikely we see any group strategy from scum and can expect each scum to think for themselves.

Keep that in mind when you're analyzing group behavior.

Processor · 2020-01-25 22:13:12

Diff you ninja'ed me

Different55 wrote:

Maf going for a dual town lynch would be interesting, but wouldn't it be in the scum's best interest to be trying to hunt down the other team at the moment?

I think mafia couldn't care less who the other mafia group is... no?

mutantdevle

Processor · 2020-01-25 22:13:36

Wow ninja'ed again

mrjawapa

Processor · 2020-01-26 00:48:57

eleizibeth wrote:

proc - scumlean
this is mostly because of just the general vibe i’m getting. he explained his town reads, but didn’t explain his scum reads. he called jawapa and me both suspicious here, but didn’t explain why

this, to me, reads like "I think proc is scum because he said ele is scum"

Processor · 2020-01-26 00:52:48

Can we get the Task lynch going now please?

!vote TaskManager

Processor · 2020-01-26 00:54:33

My scumread on ele heavily depends on Task's flip.

Processor · 2020-01-26 01:20:03

mrjawapa wrote:

And when they flip town... we lynch you?

I don'T follow, does task flipping town indicate im scum?

rat

Processor · 2020-01-26 19:11:00

BuzzerBee wrote:

Proc isn’t answering questions

what question have I not answered?

Processor · 2020-01-26 19:52:02

Lynching me because of inactivity is pretty lame.

Additionally, a Yonom lynch does not yield much additional info unlike how a Task lynch would.

Why is ele suspicious?

Let me explain, since you guys are so oblivious.

As I've said, my scumread on ele heavily depends on Task's flip.
In other words, it's due to how she has interacted with TaskManager on D1.

Still unclear? Let me show you.

Isolate ele.

Here's a summary:

Yesterday:
- ele says Task is scummy
- ele says she is 100% ok with lynching task but hints that she is reluctant to actually place her vote
- ele votes for Norboy the moment the wagon starts, she never explains why she thinks Norboy is scummy, she does not show reluctance this time

Today:
- ele is put on my scum list
- ele says I am scum because of a "general vibe" she is getting
- ele puts task in the middle of her read list (neutrals) - commonly, new mafia players put their peers in the middle of their read list, they avoid extreme positions
- ele votes for me the moment a wagon (she still hasn't explained why she thinks I am scum)

In general:
- she has gotten much more active since I started suspecting her (motivation to not get lynched > motivation to find scum)
- ele has a rather safe play style
-- she only gives her opinion on the currently active subject
-- she does not go out of her way to find suspects
-- she gives vague explanations for suspecting people
-- lots of her posts early in the game have no content and are made to avoid getting prodded (1 2 3 4 5)

mrjawapa, mutantdevle

Processor · 2020-01-26 20:17:22

Why vote Task?

Task is suspicious because of his general lack of interest in solving the game (his initial vote on Norwegianboy, having a rather safe playstyle (defensive / neutral / meme posts)), and the way he has interacted with me.
I explained my reasons in my first post the posts that Task has made since have been similarly defensive and unhelpful to town.
The whole ele situation does not help his case either.
All in all, I think the lynching Task would provide us with much valuable information necessary to solve the game.
I wanted to lynch Task D1 and I want to lynch him D2 since no better candidate has been found.

Why Task over ele?

While I have a scum read on both ele and Task, I choose to vote for Task:
- I know Task's playstyle much better than ele's and am far more confident in Task being scum
- my case on Ele is mostly based on the assumption that Task is scum. That means:
-- ele flipping town does not negate my suspicions on Task, but
-- Task flipping town does make me drop my case on ele

A few more things I want to highlight:

TaskManager wrote:

I'm not confident in a Proc lynch but if he doesn't respond to everything that was asked before then I see no other choice but to vote him

> Task asks me a question 4am my time
> 12 hours later, he says he will have to lynch me if I do not respond to that question

You're citing my inactivity as your reason to lynch me, yet, I have contributed more than quite a few people in this game.
The only difference is that I am scum reading you and they are not.

eleizibeth wrote:

ill probably vote for proc within the next hour unless he actually answers the questions

> ele says she will vote for me if I do not answer the above questions
> ele votes for me, citing that I have not answered the said questions

The thing is, I was not online to answer your questions.
Ele has effectively voted for me but has avoided taking responsibility for it.
She has not given a rational explanation as to why I should be lynched.

- None of you two have answered the questions I have asked yet you expect the opposite
- The whole claim that processor is avoiding questions is pretty baseless because I had answered the questions you've asked me since my last post (and I cannot do any better than that)

Processor · 2020-01-26 20:30:37

Answering Buzz:

BuzzerBee wrote:

I'm also waiting for Processor to reply about his flipped reads. Very odd to do that without any elaboration

was answered in https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … 77#p773077

eleizibeth wrote:

care to explain why you think jawapa and me are scum? do you think i'm scum just because i think you're scum because you think i think you're scum because you think i'm scum?

- this post sounds like a joke because of the way its asked
- https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … 18#p773118 answers the question
-- I know that I am not spoonfeeding you with my reasoning but that post does give enough information to figure out why (but with a lot of effort, because I did not have the time to elaborate further when I posted it)
-- I have since made another post going into detail on why ele is sus

Processor · 2020-01-26 20:31:05

Why jawapa is suspicious

All jawapa has been doing this game is calling out mafia pairs lol.

mrjawapa wrote:

Peace/crybaby mafia team?

mrjawapa wrote:

task/crybaby/peace scum team?

mrjawapa wrote:

Onjit/task/crybaby/peace scum team?

mrjawapa wrote:

I'm betting norboy and task are a scum team.

mrjawapa wrote:

I'm gonna scum lean norboy and guess his partner is diff

mrjawapa wrote:

Mutant/processor scum team confirmed?

mrjawapa wrote:

I first thought task/norboy could be a mafia team.

mrjawapa wrote:

Peace, are you and processor a mafia team?

mrjawapa wrote:

2B are you and processor mafia partners

Processor · 2020-01-26 20:38:09

mrjawapa wrote:

Gonna need a link to where you asked these questions. I'm not finding them.

Processor wrote:

That being said, what do you guys think of lynching TaskManager today?
I thought we were gonna lynch him yesterday but we didn't...
Do we have any reason to stop suspecting them now?

Processor wrote:

Can we get the Task lynch going now please?

Processor wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
And when they flip town... we lynch you?
I don'T follow, does task flipping town indicate im scum?

Processor · 2020-01-26 20:40:49

Someone, anyone, please explain to me why we have stopped suspecting TaskManager?

Everyone seems to be jumping on the "proc is dodging questions" train
But you're not even explaining why that is scummy
You're also refusing to engage with me on considering our other options

mutantdevle

Processor · 2020-01-26 20:46:03

TaskManager wrote:

Do you really expect me to have a say in that?

No I was replying to Jawapa.

Someone explain why:
- my "dodging" of questions which has been due to my lack of time is scummy
- why you are refusing to consider other options: ele + Task

Processor · 2020-01-26 21:23:05

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

idk but for me, proc is just simply using bs reasons to get rid of task.

why would I want to get rid of task for any reason other than thinking that task is scum?

Processor · 2020-01-26 21:25:17

Jawapa is suspicious because all he has been doing in this game is memeing around and making up scum pairs.

Does that seem townish to you, TNG?

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