Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Minimania · 2019-12-02 23:56:11

I think the Mafia have some sort of other role then

Minimania · 2019-12-03 00:42:17

If Kira was baiting me then he must have known that there was some other role that the Mafia could use. Jawapa having died further supports my suspicions that the Mafia are trying to help Diff spread the infection to as many people as possible.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 00:44:02

What's worse is that we don't know whether Peace infected Zelda or not. Zelda could have easily lied, and if Peace wasn't cured, then he'd have to had infected somebody. Maybe Peace has some sort of night action as well?

Minimania · 2019-12-03 00:46:00

I know I don't have that much room to talk here, but that's awfully convenient

Minimania · 2019-12-03 03:40:28

ShadowsEdge wrote:

on top of the nightkill immunity that Crybaby claims for you to have

Sorry to nitpick again but I didn't claim he had it. I brought it up as a likely possibility but it's possible something else could have happened. I also asked Diff straight up, too.

Norboy and Mutant share this sentiment though understandably still think I'm fishy.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Diff really didn’t want to be shot tonight so i’d assume he knew he was vulnerable. That makes your failed shot a bit fishy, either there’s another role obstructing it somehow, he is indeed bulletproof, or you’re lying about being vig.

mutantdevle wrote:

I’m also suspicious of Crybaby’s lack of a successful kill. However, I think there is more investigation to be done before declaring him scum. But I think it’s fair to say I don’t trust him nearly as much as I did yesterday.

Due to Kirby's flip, we know there are 3 Mafia members. For them to have gotten a kill while also somehow preventing Diff's death means there must have been 2 night actions taken. Given that Kira died before last night could take place, I don't think Peace is Mafia, since if his rolecard was replaced, he would have not been able to assist the Mafia in any way.

I never trusted Pqwerty, I thought for a while now that he was scum, and originally I had a Hitman suspicion on him. Kira claimed to be the hitman multiple times, and pqwerty wasn't buying it the entire time. Either Pqwerty was the hitman and Kira was lying (probably the case as it is right now) or Kira was the hitman and Pqwerty was trying to discredit him, or otherwise had some inside information about roles that we just didn't know about.

Originally, I was going to just not shoot last night at all. That was my "plan for tomorrow" as I said before Onjit's post. I didn't want to get roleblocked. But seeing as to how Kira was the roleblocker, I figured I would no longer have to fear wasting my shot. It turns out I was wrong again.

In any case, Pqwerty is the hitman and we should get rid of him whenever possible.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 03:41:17

Correction: Norboy shares the sentiment, while he and Mutant think I'm fishy

Minimania · 2019-12-03 04:24:18

Different55 wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Originally, I was going to just not shoot last night at all. That was my "plan for tomorrow" as I said before Onjit's post. I didn't want to get roleblocked. But seeing as to how Kira was the roleblocker, I figured I would no longer have to fear wasting my shot. It turns out I was wrong again.
What happened to "Oh frig there actually is a mafia roleblocker. Well guess Shadow's claim of blocking diff N1 was legit, so he couldn't have infected Peace. Guess I won't shoot the poor guy as he specifically requested not to be multiple times on many occasions." >>:::(((

You sure have a knack for twisting my words, dontcha

We never knew whether or not there was a Mafia roleblocker, it was a possibility but never confirmed before Kira died. I already last night described my doubts about Shadow being a roleblocked, which I'll link to after I post this one.

And the reason I wasnt going to shoot you was not because you were begging for it and grasping for straws to stay alive, it was because I wanted to avoid getting roleblocked as the possibility was too great to ignore. I was trying to bait the Mafia into wasting a night action on me.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 04:24:52

https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … 92#p769192

Minimania · 2019-12-03 04:36:02

Well I didn't make it clear enough then. The fact that you hadn't really done anything particularly useful with your role made me doubt it

Minimania · 2019-12-03 05:05:59

Myself
ShadowsEdge (Possible Mafia)
Slabdrill (Possible Mafia)
mutantdevle (Town Confirmed)
peace (Possible Mafia) (Infected)
NorwegianboyEE (Town Confirmed)
Pqwerty (Hitman)
Different55 (Patient 0 Assuming)
ZeldaXD (Town Confirmed) (Infected)

Assuming the worst case scenario, we've already lost, pretty much.

Assuming the best case scenario:

Myself
ShadowsEdge (Possible Mafia)
Slabdrill (Possible Mafia)
mutantdevle (Town Confirmed)
peace (Possible Mafia)
NorwegianboyEE (Town Confirmed)
Pqwerty (Hitman)
Different55 (Patient 0 Assuming)
ZeldaXD (Town Confirmed)

In the 2nd best possible scenario, there's Patient 0, Hitman, and 2 threats to the town left, leaving 4 out of 9. If we mislynch tonight, we basically lose.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 05:09:03

And honestly, we lose anyway

Minimania · 2019-12-03 05:33:48

Different55 wrote:

Also, Crybaby, is peace not confirmed town assuming he's not infected? He correctly called out Jawapa. Unless he's a mafia cop, ig.

I'm like 89% certain Peace is town disregarding the infection, but I've been wrong before and we've never confirmed anything so idk

Minimania · 2019-12-03 07:05:14

ZeldaXD wrote:

No, I am not infected.

Is this all you have to offer us right now

mutantdevle

Minimania · 2019-12-03 08:52:27

Pqwerty wrote:

Why Crybaby?
Just like Slab, Crybaby claimed that he was vig (with no pressure to claim) after a "slip-up" in post #232. In #235, he says that he has to use his night action tonight (because we assume that the mafia would want to kill the vig, and it would be a waste for the vig to die without firing). Surprisingly (just like Slab), Crybaby didn't die either (even though Vig is a very dangerous role for the mafia). Vig is an easy role to claim if you already have a nightkill as mafia. Also, only one person died N1 and N2. If we really had all these killing roles, wouldn't you guys expect more carnage? Also, only one person died on N2 and it wasn't Diff. How did Diff survive if you weren't RB'd by the town's RB (who has no reason to lie about the block) and Diff isn't immune to nightkills? The only way I can see it is that Crybaby used his nightkill on Jawapa, and mafia only gets one kill per night, so he only got the one kill. Also, Crybaby spent the whole D2 helping Kira try and mislynch the town RB.
Also, in post #160, Crybaby says that Kirby was "an important kill" (direct quote) instead of "a big loss for the town". It just struck me as something the mafia would say, but I didn't know how much "proof" it really is.

Your post is great but it doesn't account for the fact that you're scum. You're the only person who hasn't said anything about their own role, and, lo-and-behold, the only empty slot we have is the hitman. I'm willing to bet your wincon involves lynching me, right?

Also, your assessment about the Vigilante role is wrong too. I only get 1 bullet. You can't honestly expect multiple kills every day unless you had a nightkill every night just like the Mafia. Jawapa could only kill people who were town and I only had one shot, soooooo, yeah

While Shadow has no reason to lie about not role blocking me, Diff has a reason to lie about being immune to nightkills. It keeps his role more kept in secrecy, which gives him an advantage as it gives people less information to work with in how to deal with him. On another note, these aren't even the only possibilities and you completely ignored the posts between me Shadow and Norboy discussing the possibility that there could be other Mafia roles or other mechanics at play here, too. I have no clue why Diff didn't die. All I know is that he didn't.

I built up a case against Shadow because I really believed he was kind of scummy. Everything I said about him last night is still true tonight, by the way.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 09:12:15

Pqwerty wrote:

Crybaby and what do you suppose the mafia did? Steal your bullet?

I brought up multiple possibilities. They could have a 2nd roleblocker. They could have a nurse/protective role and just protected Diff. Amongst other things I think these two are likely, though not as likely as Diff just being immune to nightkills

Minimania · 2019-12-03 09:19:40

Lynching him?

Minimania · 2019-12-03 09:20:09

With the way Peace described the way he got infected, it seems to me that only one person who votes for Diff gets infected

Minimania · 2019-12-03 09:22:40

Peace voted for him. Peace did not lynch him. He is still alive. Learn the difference Hitman

Minimania · 2019-12-03 10:15:56

Trying to find the Mafia, that's fine. Sure. But I never said we should start voting for Pqwerty. Plus, I'm trying to solve the game here

Minimania · 2019-12-03 10:25:02

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Sure. But honestly your ISO looks really bad in reflection. You claimed vig, didn’t specify it was 1-shot until later. Then your shot failed for some magical unknown reason, and the fact that you brought up roleblocker makes me think that was your planned excuse for today, but your mafia bud Kira’s death hindered that explanation. So you can’t even defend yourself here. You also unvoted Kira yesterday and let someone else hammer instead of you. You are objectively scummy.

My ISO is scummy, I already admitted to that this morning, full concession.
When has Vigilante ever been a role where you could shoot more than once?
And again, I have no excuse. I have no defense for why Diff did not die. I don't know why. I gave the town the info. I am not using it as an excuse. If you want to lynch me? Fine, go ahead, but you're mislynching. Also, don't even bring up Kira as if I'm the only one who invited. Both you and Mutantdevle conceded to him, and I would not have done so if that weren't the case. I didnt unvote until far later after you were all convinced that it'd be better to keep him alive.

Minimania · 2019-12-03 10:26:00

I don't even have a target for today. I never suggested a lynch for anyone today, not even pqwerty who I said multiple **** times is the hitman

Minimania · 2019-12-03 10:27:13

Also if Slabdrill is the Godfather why don't we have 2 kills each night?

Minimania · 2019-12-03 10:27:35

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

You were calling Shadow and Slabdrill possible mafia in one of your posts earlier.

I said the same thing about Peace

Minimania · 2019-12-03 10:27:55

At no point did I say "Aaaaa lynch this person nowwwww!!!!!"

Minimania · 2019-12-03 10:29:17

Crybaby wrote:

You're the only person who hasn't said anything about their own role, and, lo-and-behold, the only empty slot we have is the hitman.

You call my defense weak. Did you even read it?

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