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#27 2019-10-19 17:47:13
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
I largely agree with Onjit's reads.
NorwegianboyEE wrote:And yes i agree about Diff. In fact he hasn’t voted a single time yet. An way to avoid any negative attention maybe? That’s why i was hesistant to townlean him.
And i’ve got the same gripes with ShadowsEdge, but he seems to do it almost all games. He has this bad tendency of merely "commentating" on what’s going on, rather than finding actual scumreads and pushing them. Town can’t win if they don’t play somewhat aggressively and use their votes to pressure the mafia into scumtelling.I was never a fan of the wagon yesterday and I'm not going to assist in creating another unmovable wagon so early in the day. But I agree, I should at least have my vote active out here.
Vote NorwegianboyEE
now youre going to vote? im sorry, but thats a certified yikes moment from me
!vote Different55
I'm still keeping my vote on Kira since this game has majority lynches, and I don't think the momentum is there for a diff lynch today (plus lynching kira gives information about diff, potentially a 2 for 1 combo meal deal), but if a wagon starts building there I 100% intend to hop on.
how does lynching kira give info about diff? i'm probably missing something here, but i'd like to know
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#29 2019-10-19 18:32:34
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
!Vote NorwegianBoy
I agree with TaskManager's post, Norwegianboy has a tendency to play aggressive, going for the peace lynch was a safe lynch, since he can always use that excuse "It's very obvious when Peace is mafia and when he isn't!"
I am not 100% convinced that Norwegianboy is mafia, however he really comes out as such.This was Norwegianboy's answer when I voted him Day 2:
Norwegianboy wrote:Kira don't be so simple-minded. While i did indeed raise suspicion on Peace, that doesn't implicate me as the villain here. The wagon on Peace grew very quickly and that did tipped me off that something might be up, but i still believed i my scumread on him so i kept it going regardless.
Killing Crybaby was a safe nightkill, he was trolling and didn't really add much. So his death gives us no information.
I'm thinking that the people who were encouraging are rather suspicious i'm going to have to look more into the voters and their reasoning for voting.TLDR: Reconsider your vote, Peace is obvious mafia!
that post did lead me to suspect norwegianboy's aggressive strategy, however i'm personally going for the diff lynch today
if diff flips green, i'd look into norweg a bit more
if diff does flip red, then... i don't really know
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#31 2019-10-20 07:09:08
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
O dang not even a few hours. Like 15 minutes. Norboy set the first vote at :31, Daneeko was in by :47. That's some speed right there.
that happened because I do nothing but check the ee forums for mafia 33
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#32 2019-10-20 08:40:59
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
There currently isn't much of a wagon to have grown. I voted for Norboy because I didn't want to contribute to a wagon and Norboy was the scummiest person to not already have his own started. Kira agreed he was a bit scummy.
On the flip side, 3 people all swapped their votes from Kira to me within a few hours. That's the kind of movement we should've seen yesterday with peace when we realized we were wrong. Daneeko's likely just along for the ride but the other two? Especially Norboy's whiplash-inducing 180° on me? I don't have a nice convenient excuse for that.
you seem to be implying that we should immediately believe someone when they roleclaim, sure peace flipped green but most of us were convinced peace was lynchworthy (despite norweg not caring about that, which i still find confusing)
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#34 2019-10-20 08:52:07
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
Daneeko wrote:(despite norweg not caring about that, which i still find confusing)
?
I see this point brought up against me and i don’t understand it. Asking Peace to roleclaim is a formality to ensure that the person we are lynching isn’t a PR. He claimed VT, so even though i was still convinced he was scum. If he was town then at least we wouldn’t be mislynching our PR’s.
sorry for asking but ... what does PR mean ...
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#36 2019-10-20 11:19:29
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
I kind of wish you'd come to a conclusion Shadow, like:
"X is most likely scum. let's vote X"
or
"Y and A is not scum, but X is"Just something that would be easy to fathom at first glance rather than having to analyze your huge post to see what you're actually thinking.
To make things simpler i've done it for you Shadow.Shadows post summarized:
- Is against the wagon on Norwegianboy. Believes it to be unlikely that Norwegian would be committing to an aggressive playstyle as a scum player for two games in a row. But he knows Norwegian is capable of this strategy so he is being cautious about trusting him.
- Is suspicious towards Different55 because he is playing similarly to how Scum!Shadow played in French Revolution mafia. Also claims that Diff is hypocritical by painting Norwegian as having been aggressive in Day 1 when Diff is being very aggressive towards Norwegianboy here in Day 2. Diff is using the same argument Norwegianboy used in day 1 towards Peace that the scumminess of Peace's/Norwegians actions overrules the possibility of being town.
- Kira seems suspicious because he has spent too much time ****. But Shadow is currently sheeping Zelda's claim that Scum!Kira would be more careful about what he posts.
- Daneeko seems like a town player because he is changing his stances a lot, and that seems unlikely for scum to be doing.
- Jawapa's actions seems scummy, but from his scumplay meta which is based highly on PurgatorEE it doesn't seem like Jawapa is emulating that sort of play at all in here.
- Doesn't really have a stand against other players due to them being largely inactive or they seem like town.
thank you norwegianboy, very cool
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#42 2019-10-20 20:26:00
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
.e. reads:
townlean
taskmanager: knows what he's doing 70% of the time, that
jawapa: i admit you really have an argument here
diff: clinging to that thing in day 1 stopped mattering and while i might not agree with you 100% you seem to know what you are doing 80% of the time
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norboy: not 100% fond of his strat but he is ok
nonk: mixed signals here i dont even know
kira: you voted at me, but i cant even
scumlean
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#49 2019-10-20 21:46:00
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
Daneeko wrote:and with that, the votes are now a 3-way tie
Can you defend yourself? You not trying at all is extremely suspicious.
well how do i put this.. well, shadow put it to the explanation that basically, why does me following town consensus make me scum
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