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RailMat

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From: Emmen (NL)

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

Railmat did specify after Anatoly self voted that self voting wouldn't be allowed. It would have been nice to see it in the main thread though.

Self voting is playing against your win condition. Only 3rd party roles have a different win condition. In mafia 14 was Processor the joker jester. He must eliminate his self to win.

Not necessarily: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Self-voting

As I understand: people are self voting if they don't want to play the game further.

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

As I understand: people are self voting if they don't want to play the game further.

Not every time. Sometimes there are strategic reasons to self vote.

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

imo selfvoing shouldtn eb allowwed if you want to be dead then ask for a replacement and what coould be so startegic about KYS?

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Slabdrill

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

I believe onjit's selfvote was justified here and should've gone through.

If he died, we would be able to see his rolecard which we could work off of. Compare this to waiting for someone to nightkill them - there's a chance of intentionally waiting specifically to avoid revealing that person's rolecard.
You still win even if you're dead, so why would lynching yourself be something that works against your win condition? A modclaim is the only way to absolutely confirm someone's role for sure.

I wouldn't have actually gone for it in his position, but I can see why someone would.

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peace

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

I believe onjit's selfvote was justified here and should've gone through.

If he died, we would be able to see his rolecard which we could work off of. Compare this to waiting for someone to nightkill them - there's a chance of intentionally waiting specifically to avoid revealing that person's rolecard.
You still win even if you're dead, so why would lynching yourself be something that works against your win condition? A modclaim is the only way to absolutely confirm someone's role for sure.

I wouldn't have actually gone for it in his position, but I can see why someone would.

yeha +the fact night kills can happen after self vtoes i see selfvote a syo **** you guys you dont beleiv eme ima kill myself so you fnialy believe me! this is not how a game works just play regulary and if poeple supstct you from bign mafia they will vote you eventually

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Onjit

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

There was only 5 votes and the lynch still succeeded?

This game has been a mess haha

Still fun though:cool: :cool:

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RailMat

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From: Emmen (NL)

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

There was only 5 votes and the lynch still succeeded?

This game has been a mess haha

Still fun though:cool: :cool:

No, I was forgot the vote from Zumza

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2b55b5g

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

Can dead players see other people’s role? I’m curious

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Norwee

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

Can dead players see other people’s role? I’m curious

Yes. Me and Taskmanager has both seen what role each remaining player has.

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

lololol you got the worng **** persons you morrons you guys just killed an innonet townier fshame on you guys worst town ever to live in none is safe in that horible town if you are not kileld by mafia but your own town folk  though town coudl trust each other seems nope.. im now wiht god he wil take care of me and send you all to hell

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

lololol you got the worng **** persons you morrons you guys just killed an innonet townier fshame on you guys worst town ever to live in none is safe in that horible town if you are not kileld by mafia but your own town folk  though town coudl trust each other seems nope.. im now wiht god he wil take care of me and send you all to hell

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Norwee

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

I don't think you can 100% blame the town for this one Peace. You also need to defend yourself, not just wait for the town do do it for you. If you had made your mafia list explain better who you think are suspicious and better to lynch than you, maybe they wouldn't have jumped on you like hungry hyenas.
Not saying it's completely your fault, but you can't blame it all on them.

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2b55b5g

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

Well I didn’t lynch you

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

I don't think you can 100% blame the town for this one Peace. You also need to defend yourself, not just wait for the town do do it for you. If you had made your mafia list explain better who you think are suspicious and better to lynch than you, maybe they wouldn't have jumped on you like hungry hyenas.
Not saying it's completely your fault, but you can't blame it all on them.

yeah but poeple ar ejust voting because they have to go for few horus and whant to resvere lynch so otheres can end day ealy if wanted

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

people would not have voted for you if they didn't think you were being shady and suspicious

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peace

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

what abotu D1 kirby's first post was just a rnadom lynch on me

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Different55

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

Getting a little too close to breaking the game rules there, peace. You're dead, you can't discuss what's going on in-game with any living players.

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RailMat

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From: Emmen (NL)

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

What is your opinion how I host this game?

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

honestly, in my opinion, peace shouldn't had been allowed to enter the game in the first place.

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RailMat

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From: Emmen (NL)

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

honestly, in my opinion, peace shouldn't had been allowed to enter the game in the first place.

Why should peace not be able to play in your opinion?

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

Because they are a lot of times simply incomprehensible.
They also have no respect for the game rules.
And the last flaming proves they haven't understand anything from the game.

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Norwee

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

I would personally like to see a mafia game with Anatoly, Peace and Night More as the mafia.

And yeah i think you did a good job Railmat. The roles felt a lot more balanced than Onjit's mafia game. Yet you kept up his good method of managing. (For the most part, only a few minor gripes.)

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

There were a few things that I think could've used improvements.

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Zumza

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

I just realised that in the previous Mafia organised with RailMat we also had an invalid vote that prevented a lynch.

Source: https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … 56#p680656

cOmManDs mUSt be In bOld

You know we can't edit things, the fact that it wasn't bolded might had been just a mistake.
Having exactly L-1 and discrediting a vote is just crap!

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mutantdevle

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Re: Mafia 24 Discussion and sign-ups [slots filled, backups needed]

What is your opinion how I host this game?

It's better than last time. There are certainly a fair few decisions you made that I think are questionable and that I think have affected game balance but I don't mind you as a moderator.

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