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#2 2017-05-26 03:21:53, last edited by Raon (2017-05-26 09:43:43)
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#6 2017-05-26 13:29:14
- Tomahawk
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Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
Is this per-player, or will all players be spamming to try and place their own blocks?
One bot to rule them all, one bot to find them. One bot to bring them all... and with this cliché blind them.
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#7 2017-05-26 16:27:48
Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
IMO this would just get annoying, plus if you think someone will troll, don't give them edit!
That doesn't solve the issue. People can troll when you don't expect it, and if you refuse to give edit to everybody, it basically ruins the idea of a free edit world!
Is this per-player, or will all players be spamming to try and place their own blocks?
Per-player, I would assume.
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#8 2017-05-26 18:06:59
- Master1
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Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
We have enough methods to defend against trolling, we don't need anymore.
If anything we need to make trolling easier.
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#9 2017-05-26 18:38:06
Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
We have enough methods to defend against trolling, we don't need anymore.
If anything we need to make trolling easier.
Why? Trolls intend to ruin the fun of others. That's not something we should be giving special privileges and recognition to.
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#10 2017-05-26 19:27:13
- Abelysk
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Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
I think the best anti trolling mechanism would be to detect if players are drawing too fast over a too-wide radius in a short amount of time. This would only affect people who are not the world owner.
#11 2017-05-26 19:56:39
Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
I think the best anti trolling mechanism would be to detect if players are drawing too fast over a too-wide radius in a short amount of time. This would only affect people who are not the world owner.
The best anti trolling mechanism would be to not give edit to players you dont trust, and be watching just incase someone who you didnt think would troll does. Also check the map, and save every few mins so if something is trolled, then you can just go back a few mins and it will be fine.
Also, it would be quite hard to automatically detect trolling without getting a lot of false positives, e.g. making a box / replacing the border, or drawing large edges for art or something, which would be quite annoying
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#12 2017-05-26 20:24:48
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Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
To fix the issue with bots
Please clarify that. What issue?
to slow down trolling
There doesn't exist, in practice or in theory, a way to regulate the blocks placed by a player. A single block can ruin a level, and this suggestion would only slightly limit one method of trolling, while inconveniencing many more players.
One bot to rule them all, one bot to find them. One bot to bring them all... and with this cliché blind them.
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#13 2017-05-26 20:28:31
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Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
It wouldn't fix anything, they could merely use multiple accounts to bypass your non-solution to a non-issue.
*u stinky*
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#14 2017-05-26 20:47:14
Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
It wouldn't fix anything, they could merely use multiple accounts to bypass your non-solution to a non-issue.
The same goes for any other method of preventing trolling.
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#15 2017-05-26 20:56:02, last edited by LukeM (2017-05-26 20:56:27)
Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
XxAtillaxX wrote:It wouldn't fix anything, they could merely use multiple accounts to bypass your non-solution to a non-issue.
The same goes for any other method of preventing trolling.
Not the ones I suggested...
The best anti trolling mechanism would be to not give edit to players you dont trust, and be watching just incase someone who you didnt think would troll does. Also check the map, and save every few mins so if something is trolled, then you can just go back a few mins and it will be fine.
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#16 2017-05-26 21:17:50, last edited by N1KF (2017-05-26 21:19:17)
Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
N1KF wrote:XxAtillaxX wrote:It wouldn't fix anything, they could merely use multiple accounts to bypass your non-solution to a non-issue.
The same goes for any other method of preventing trolling.
Not the ones I suggested...
destroyer123 wrote:The best anti trolling mechanism would be to not give edit to players you dont trust, and be watching just incase someone who you didnt think would troll does. Also check the map, and save every few mins so if something is trolled, then you can just go back a few mins and it will be fine.
The first half of your idea ruins the concept of a free edit world, unless you only refuse to give edit to blatant alt accounts. The second half isn't something that can easily prevent alt accounts from trolling.
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#17 2017-05-26 22:04:49, last edited by LukeM (2017-05-26 22:05:14)
Re: "Miliseconds between block placements" setting
▼destroyer123 wrote:The first half of your idea ruins the concept of a free edit world, unless you only refuse to give edit to blatant alt accounts. The second half isn't something that can easily prevent alt accounts from trolling.
Ok, so you cant really only give edit to people you trust on free edit worlds, but if you keep close watch, then you can easily catch trolling and revert to a previous save should you need to. I also believe that good features should have a wide range of uses, not just a few (I cant think of anything that would require a max block speed other than free edit worlds), as for these things its probably just easier to use bots.
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