Get IP of players

SirJosh3917 · 2016-10-15 16:50:31

No I'm not saying I want his ip, I want a form of it, but not their IP.
You could like hash it if you want, encrypt it with the key as the ip, e.t.c
I want some form of identification on a player, so that even if they make multiple alts, I can still find out who they really are via their hashed/encrypted/whatrevered ip.

Nebula · 2016-10-15 16:51:36

yesssss

Processor · 2016-10-15 16:55:19

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

I want some form of identification on a player, so that even if they make multiple alts, I can still find out who they really are via their hashed/encrypted/whatrevered ip.

There are privacy concerns associated with this. If a player is playing on an alt, they surely don't want you to identify them!

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hummerz5 · 2016-10-15 16:56:24

https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=33561
save yourself some time

SirJosh3917 · 2016-10-15 17:13:54

Processor wrote:

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:
I want some form of identification on a player, so that even if they make multiple alts, I can still find out who they really are via their hashed/encrypted/whatrevered ip.
There are privacy concerns associated with this. If a player is playing on an alt, they surely don't want you to identify them!

But what if a troller comes into a world and trolls using multiple alts

EDIT: You could base64 their IP with the world id then hash it if it's a concern

hummerz5 · 2016-10-15 17:14:32

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

Processor wrote:
ninjasupeatsninja wrote:
I want some form of identification on a player, so that even if they make multiple alts, I can still find out who they really are via their hashed/encrypted/whatrevered ip.
There are privacy concerns associated with this. If a player is playing on an alt, they surely don't want you to identify them!
But what if a troller comes into a world and trolls using multiple alts

Hopefully after enough trials, the room owner will realize they should stop giving alternate accounts code!

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Tomahawk · 2016-10-15 18:41:59

Sounds like a bad idea to me. Alts are for the mods to deal with, not bots.

den3107 · 2016-10-15 23:59:13

I can see both sides really.
One side: It's annoying you have to wait for the mods to ban the alt (or whatever), where in the meantime the person can still bully or whatever (an ipkick command would fix this, as a bot can automatically kick again on join).
Other side: You know what "location hash" a certain person has. That way you also know what his/her alts are, and with the concept of big data being somewhat applied on EE, people can share such information, which these people might not want.

SirJosh3917 · 2016-10-16 04:22:40

I mean you can always just combine ip + worldId, then add a salt based on the first simple ID that joined
like
lets say your ip is 123.456, your on OWaa AAAAAA, and the simpleid of the first user that joined was simpleguest
(123.456OWaa AAAAAAsimpleguest) Would be combined.

capasha · 2016-10-16 07:51:49

Also. Whatever you trying to encrypt the ip-address. It wouldn't change anything.
I don't want to be banned by ip in a world. Then everyone would take my alts.

Like trolling. It's not the troller faults. It's the owners. Don't give the code to strangers. That's it.
If anyone is breaking the rules, then report them. Can't be that hard.

John · 2016-10-16 15:21:03

I do think it's a great idea, as I've suggested it here. It would prevent spammers and hackers from terrorizing your level.

SirJosh3917

SirJosh3917 · 2016-10-16 15:27:24

Instead of this and user privacy thing or whatever,
we could all just have /ipkick for us to kick a player and they'll stay out based on their ip
can we all agree on ipkick at the least?

John · 2016-10-16 15:37:15

That would only work for the length of the world. You'd have to do /ipkick [Player] for each person on your banlist, for each time the world restarts.

Seeing if a string exists in another string would be much more manageable.

EDIT: Reworded.

Seeing if a string exists in a list would be much more manageable.

XxAtillaxX · 2016-10-16 16:09:02

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

Instead of this and user privacy thing or whatever,
we could all just have /ipkick for us to kick a player and they'll stay out based on their ip
can we all agree on ipkick at the least?

You don't understand.

If there is someone in a world and you decide to kick them based on their ip address, it would also kick any of their alts in the world.
This means that you would then know which alts are theirs.

Koya

SirJosh3917 · 2016-10-16 19:14:37

XxAtillaxX wrote:

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:
Instead of this and user privacy thing or whatever,
we could all just have /ipkick for us to kick a player and they'll stay out based on their ip
can we all agree on ipkick at the least?
You don't understand.
If there is someone in a world and you decide to kick them based on their ip address, it would also kick any of their alts in the world.
This means that you would then know which alts are theirs.

Could the system not broadcast the kick for the alt?

den3107 · 2016-10-16 22:18:44

XxAtillaxX wrote:

If there is someone in a world and you decide to kick them based on their ip address, it would also kick any of their alts in the world.
This means that you would then know which alts are theirs.

If a person does something on one account, and then the same on another, you can also be quite certain that's an alt.
If they want to evade a ban/kick using an alt, then it's on them that other people know their alts. They have a choice and they chose to show their alts.

So yes, I do support an ipkick/ban.

P.S. Not sure about this one, but aren't alts officially against the EE rules? Exactly because you can evade ACTUAL bans too then (unless IP ban, in which case it'd get a bit harder to evade it).

XxAtillaxX · 2016-10-17 01:26:46

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

XxAtillaxX wrote:
You don't understand.
If there is someone in a world and you decide to kick them based on their ip address, it would also kick any of their alts in the world.
This means that you would then know which alts are theirs.
Could the system not broadcast the kick for the alt?

It would be incredibly obvious as they are disconnecting at the exact same time.

den3107 wrote:

If a person does something on one account, and then the same on another, you can also be quite certain that's an alt.
If they want to evade a ban/kick using an alt, then it's on them that other people know their alts. They have a choice and they chose to show their alts.
So yes, I do support an ipkick/ban.
P.S. Not sure about this one, but aren't alts officially against the EE rules? Exactly because you can evade ACTUAL bans too then (unless IP ban, in which case it'd get a bit harder to evade it).

Well that's not quite true, those interactions are not applicable in every scenario.
Alternative accounts are not against the rules unless they are banned, which is not applicable to kicks.

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