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#1 Re: Debates » "Being Offended" » 2015-12-21 03:58:12

i... why is this even open for discussion? bullying is bullying. insults are insults. im about to lose my head over this.

Different55 wrote:

Take 5, and come back and make your points in plain english. Even if what you say has merit to it, nobody's going to take you seriously or even bother to read through what you say when you're hysterical, or at least when your text reads that way.

Insanity wrote:

LOL if you get offended by what someone says from behind a computer screen

Bimps wrote:

calm down ipwner and wait out your ban

Bimps wrote:

hello and welcome back to jawapa and failgirl101 **** contest

i really dont give a single crap whatsoever about however you all wanna word the same exact statement. i really dont give a single crap whatsoever how seriously people want to take me. welcome to the Debate section of the Official Everybody Edits Forums! This is where we "Debate" about topics! If you want to send irrelevant replies telling people to stop "Debating" and to calm down, maybe you should leave the "Debate" section and browse another section instead! Woah! //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/wink

Calicara wrote:

I am not advocating for the bullying of people with mental illnesses. ... But again, like Jawapa, you're taking me too generally. I'm not saying we should go out and bully children.

why are you trying to avoid the fact that you support the action of bullying? like ok cool! youre all for NOT being absolutely horrible to people with mental illnesses! but apparently being horrible to everyone else is absolutely acceptable! Let's take a trip back to Kindergarten, where we learn how to be a Decent Human Being!

also i never said that you said you should go out and bully children! being a bad person isn't justifiable! jesus why is this so hard?

Calicara wrote:

Try being nice to Westoboro Baptist Church, they will just tell you God hates you.

literally are you kidding me! remember when the founder of westboro died and a bunch of queer people came with signs saying supportive things in protest to the westboro funeral raids? this happened!! westboro didnt do that!! they accepted their kindness!!

Calicara wrote:

Try being nice to ISIS, they will probably just kill you.

im about to burst a vein oh my god. like im going to get furious if i respond to this one. Look up a girl named Malala Yousafzai! She's won the Nobel Peace Prize! A prize for keeping peace! And you know why? Because she was kind to ISIS! Woahhhhhhh! //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

Jawapa wrote:

"The world is already bad, so let's go ahead and make it worse."

Jawapa wrote:

And only people with mental illnesses?  Maybe this isn't what you meant, but words hurt all people.  Doesn't matter what illnesses they have.

im so ready to write a freakin unnecessary essay on why bullying is never okay but you know what im just going to post these quotes instead.



you are supporting and defending bullying and harrassment calicara. theres no little "case-by-case" about it. you believe that harrassing people is an acceptable thing to do.

#2 Re: Debates » Sexuality » 2015-12-21 03:28:26

hummerz5 wrote:

and you assume they would.

i never... assumed they would. because i never suggested anything about molestation/abortion in the first place. and even in a scenario like that, you dont just deny abortion. i mean its not like theres such a small population of gay people that literally every single person wouldn't consent to having a child/children. and if you REALLY wanted to ACTUALLY assess some impossible imaginary scenario that you keep defending, if you have access to technology for abortion youre most likely going to have access to technology for gene mod/same-sex biological parents.

hummerz5 wrote:

It seems we both enjoy blowing each others arguments out of proportion.

thanks for sourcing your statements!

hummerz5 wrote:

(taliban: see "strawman" above)

i wasnt... i wasnt saying that your beliefs are absolutely horrible or anything by comparing them to the taliban. i was proving the point that its useless to hold on to an opinion if you know its not even realistic. i could have used a bunch of other examples because the taliban in general is kind of extreme, but that wasnt really the focus of the analogy. again, it was because why would you "retain" a perspective if you know its not realistic

hummerz5 wrote:

My original, ultimate point is simply that strict adherence to homosexuality without science, without society, without magic as aides, does not create children. Therefore, homosexuals, if reaching a majority point in worldwide demographics, would have to take extra steps to keep from ending civilization, etc.

that... you cant just do that. like you cant just ignore other factors. they exist whether you pretend they dont or not. you cant just go "well being gay isnt natural because WHAT IF: you DIDNT have any society, gene modification, OR science? and THEN, WHAT IF: gays TOOK OVER the population?? then it would be SLIGHTLY HARDER to reproduce. thats why gay isnt natural.

like generalizing is literally like not a good argument stance at all. just because in general "if two men or if two women have sex they can't biologically have a baby" doesn't mean you can ignore literally other aspect of homosexuality: adoption, orphanages, gene modification, etc.

and why do you keep up bringing this dumb, fake circumstance where gays outpopulate straights? you realize that the percentage of gay people in the world has stayed consistent forever, right? you're just hearing more about gay people and seeing more things about homosexuality because its becoming more and more accepted in society. up until the 1970's, homosexuality was considered a behavior. something that overcame you, then went away later. society refused to acknowledge it as a real thing that happens forever in people no matter what. like if it was 1965 and i could go to jail for saying i was gay, and some random dude knocked on my door and asked if i was gay, why in hell would i tell him yes? its called incorrect information. its called outside factors. these are literally basics in sociology. dont ignore them.

i really dont care if "it'll make gay people uncomfortable to have children so they might maybe wipe out the human race if they somehow outpopulate straights" which again, will NEVER happen. there are more gay people in your daily life because gay people can be less afraid of coming out now.

really you cant just "retain" a viewpoint because you dont want to acknowledge its reality and you just want to generalize it. generalization isnt a proper form of debate for a reason. so if you're just gonna use it debating with me theres not really a point in me wasting my time.

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gkaby wrote:

why does it matter what people consider genders - idk how it would affect anyone else

honestly! why do all of you care? it doesnt affect your lives negatively. stop being intolerant over things that dont even hurt you. youre acting like whiney children.

#3 Re: Debates » "Being Offended" » 2015-12-21 01:21:43

Crastopher wrote:

w... what? where do i... even begin with this?

its.. okay to bully? its okay... to insult people? to hurt them? this is so far stretched youve already snapped this subject into pieces. its.. never okay to insult someone? ever??? no matter what???????

constructive criticism is telling someone things they can improve on in a positive manner. "i think your art looks pretty good! if you wanted to improve even more, maybe try working on hands more. : )" is absolutely different from "haha your hands suck". where are you getting "constructive bullying" from? bullying is defined as the act of physically or emotionally harming someone. theres... no circumstance whatsoever that is defendably "good". no matter what. this shouldnt be hard to get??????

say i dated some kid named... lets say, zach. zach emotionally manipulated and physically abused me. i finally broke out of the relationship, and now im more wary of people who try to manipulate my thoughts and opinions. and now i dont care for when someone tries to guilt trip me or threaten me.

so that abuse and manipulation i had to go through is all of a sudden good, because i learned from it?? now this kid zach shouldnt go to jail because he was "constructively abusing me"?? no!! thats not okay!!! you are saying that insulting and intentionally hurting people is okay!! no!! okay!!

do you understand how hard it is for me to resist flipping out right now? what you are saying is not **** okay!! bullying is not **** okay!! no matter what!! in 2012, 64% of gun deaths were due to suicide! do you think that 64% were all just like "hey, im going to literally destroy my entire existance because it's a cool fad and all my riends are doing it!" or something? what the hell is wrong with you? how can you literally sit there and wholeheartedly believe and argue that bullying in any form whatsoever is acceptable at ALL? there is no excuse for bullying. there is no excuse for bullying. there is no excuse for bullying.

youre saying that its okay to insult someone and attack them instead of being kind and going "keep it up, youre doing well!"!!!!!!!!!!!! theres no damn "case-to-case" situation!!! harming!! someone!! on!! purpose!! is!! wrong!! in EVERY case, EVERY SINGLE CASE, SUPPORTING them and BELIEVING in them is incredibly acceptable, and INSULTING them and PUTTING THEM DOWN is NOT! WHAT! SO! EVER!

clean your life! talk to a counsellor! talk to ANYONE! about this! bullying! is! wrong! P E R I O D!

i am so **** at this! stop defending it! its not bimps okay to intentionally hurt people! do you know why it's called putting someone down? because youre LOWERING their self-esteem! how can you think insulting and harming someone in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER is okay in ANY CASE WHATSOEVER! its! not! learning and becoming a better person due to a bad situation DOES NOT MAKE THE SITUATION GOOD!

i dont even know what to say anymore. im just completely baffled you could legitemately argue that bullying is okay at all. that is literally so disrespectful to the millions upon MILLIONS who committed suicide!! who cut!! who hurt themselves!! who attempted suicide!! who got DEPRESSION and who got ANXIETY and PARANOIA as a result of bullying!! bullying!! is never!! okay!!

shut up about constructive bullying! that DOESNT EXIST! being constructive is helping someone up off the ground!! it means youre making them feel better!! bullying is just knocking them right back into the mud!! theres no "constructive bullying"! you are literally so insensitive and disrespectful to EVERYONE whos been put down and whos been hurt physically and whos been hurt emotionally!!!

i dont. CARE! about your situation!! okay! im absolutely glad that you grew thick skin from that horrible situation!! but that DOESNT make it right!!! i dont care if theyre "kids"! their age does not justify the fact that they INTENTIONALLY hurt you!! and not everyone can grow thick skin!! suicide is the second highest method of death in teenagers and pre-teens!!!!!! MOST. people! cannot grow thick skin!!!!! stop pretending that the fact that YOU survived a situation means that EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS WORLD CAN! there's 7 BILLION people in the world. and NONE of them are you! but ONE!

dont even respond until you watch this video, okay? what you are saying is not acceptable in any form. defending bullying is not acceptable in any form. defending bullying is not acceptable in any form.

#4 Re: Debates » "Being Offended" » 2015-12-21 01:06:43

w... what? where do i... even begin with this?

its.. okay to bully? its okay... to insult people? to hurt them? this is so far stretched youve already snapped this subject into pieces. its.. never okay to insult someone? ever??? no matter what???????

constructive criticism is telling someone things they can improve on in a positive manner. "i think your art looks pretty good! if you wanted to improve even more, maybe try working on hands more. : )" is absolutely different from "haha your hands suck". where are you getting "constructive bullying" from? bullying is defined as the act of physically or emotionally harming someone. theres... no circumstance whatsoever that is defendably "good". no matter what. this shouldnt be hard to get??????

say i dated some kid named... lets say, zach. zach emotionally manipulated and physically abused me. i finally broke out of the relationship, and now im more wary of people who try to manipulate my thoughts and opinions. and now i dont care for when someone tries to guilt trip me or threaten me.

so that abuse and manipulation i had to go through is all of a sudden good, because i learned from it?? now this kid zach shouldnt go to jail because he was "constructively abusing me"?? no!! thats not okay!!! you are saying that insulting and intentionally hurting people is okay!! no!! okay!!

do you understand how hard it is for me to resist flipping out right now? what you are saying is not **** okay!! bullying is not **** okay!! no matter what!! in 2012, 64% of gun deaths were due to suicide! do you think that 64% were all just like "hey, im going to literally destroy my entire existance because it's a cool fad and all my riends are doing it!" or something? what the hell is wrong with you? how can you literally sit there and wholeheartedly believe and argue that bullying in any form whatsoever is acceptable at ALL? there is no excuse for bullying. there is no excuse for bullying. there is no excuse for bullying.

youre saying that its okay to insult someone and attack them instead of being kind and going "keep it up, youre doing well!"!!!!!!!!!!!! theres no damn "case-to-case" situation!!! harming!! someone!! on!! purpose!! is!! wrong!! in EVERY case, EVERY SINGLE CASE, SUPPORTING them and BELIEVING in them is incredibly acceptable, and INSULTING them and PUTTING THEM DOWN is NOT! WHAT! SO! EVER!

clean your life! talk to a counsellor! talk to ANYONE! about this! bullying! is! wrong! P E R I O D!

#5 Re: Debates » Sexuality » 2015-12-20 23:33:12

hummerz5 wrote:

knocking a girl up: ah yes, then there's a question for a lesbian: is that action considered rape (then we go into the abortion debate)
gay babies: good point. The (sociological?) way that homosexuality would take hold isn't through offspring. At the same time, I'm not assuming that's the cause; only that somehow it happens.
torturous parents: Whatever causes parents to be torturous is not limited only to heterosexual couples, so your argument ... no.
still going back to my last post. I get it, my view was shortsighted. I still retain it for the simple logic, but it's not realistic.

first off before i delve into anything "knocking someone up" means impregnating them and its COMPLETELY irrelevant to consent. i hadnt said anything about this impossible scenario that someone didnt consent to anything and that i molested someone! thats called a strawman argument friendo!

the "torturous parents" thing was referenced in the context of anti-homosexuality views, which is kinda why i related the two in the same sentence! im kinda just a lil certain that gay parents are gonna be less likely to attack their kids for being gay than straight parents are! you really seem to like taking my arguments out of context and adding irrelevant points completely unrelated to what im saying, dont'cha bud? //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

"I still retain it for the simple logic, but it's not realistic." wow!! really? what kind of view is this? "i understand the taliban murder people daily, but i still support them for their simple beliefs in god."
like youre literally saying "I know it's completely unrealistic and will never happen, but I think being gay shouldn't be allowed because what if one day all the straight people in the world disappeared and all the gay people decided they didn't care enough to reproduce with each other for some reason? Then humans would go extinct!"

god i hate everything about this little scenario down to the dot. like even excluding and ignoring every single logical point and reason and logical statement im not even that ruptured that much at all by the idea of humans going extinct. for gods sakes, if anything that means that we wouldnt be polluting everything and causing global warming and chopping down forests and creating OTHER creatures' extinctions. i mean its not like we've done much good for the world and the environment.

ANYWAYS on another subject no i havent pyromaniac! ill definitely go check it out now.

EDIT: i never even noticed u talked about abortion. h?? how??? do you think thats literally relevant enough to the actual subject we're debating about that you decided to use it as a counter-argument against me? i literally havent talked about consent and abortion at all!! and even if it was relevant why do you think i'd get into a debate about abortion?? this topic is titled "Sexuality", not "Abortion". so no, we DON'T then go into the abortion debate, because it's completely off-topic and irrelevant.

EDIT 2: thank u anak so much i love u too

#6 Re: Debates » Sexuality » 2015-12-20 22:53:25

hummerz5 wrote:

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oh my god i just said this

why do you act like all gay people physically cannot have children without the help of science? sexuality is your preference towards what's in people's pants! its not a biological limiation!

i am someone who was born male and is sexually attracted to males. do you think i couldnt go over to some girl's house and knock her up?

also whats with this whole assumption that gay people = gay babies? if gay people could only be born from gay parents dont you think this whole "being gay" thing would be a lot easier since you dont have to deal with the millions and millions of cases of abusive/murderous/torturous parents worldwide?? if for some dumb reason ALL the straights were suddenly extinct or whatever and there were ONLY gays, they could just reproduce! with their opposite designated sex! its obviously not gonna be preferrable or whatever but then there will be straight people in the world!! to reproduce comfortably!!

#7 Re: Debates » Sexuality » 2015-12-20 22:40:25

im just gonna go thru a little list because for gods sakes its almost 2016 this "gay/straight" and "male/female" stuff shouldnt still apparently be this hard to get

- theres more than just gay straight and bi
- gender is more complex than male/female due to the fact that some people feel they cant sympathize to either gender and consider themselves agender
- people can be a mix of all three genders. many people feel that they can only sympathize with one gender at a time (i.e. i woke up feeling like a boy and later i felt like a girl) and others feel like all their specific genders at the same time
- transgender is more than just "i wanna be a boy/girl/whatever". look up "gender dysphoria" this is what google's for
- ive heard talk about otherkin a few times on this topic. most people who are otherkin obviously know they arent literally [x] but they identify with [x] because it helps them deal with daily life and it immensely helps with disorders and symptoms, most notably dissociation (aka you dont feel like youre actually you/you feel like everything isnt real/is surreal)
- y'all act like gay people physically cant have sex with and reproduce with the opposite sex or whatever. like in whatever scenario your homophobic brain wants to create where gays have taken over the population people would still have babies like it'd still happen. it just means sex wouldn't be preferrable or comfortable
- y'all also act like being gay is a choice or something. like i, like EVERY gay person ever, could just stop and decide i'm/they're straight now. like we all could just decide were kinda bored of being whipped, stoned, killed in general, teased, spat on, tortured, and insulted (among other things) and go "We wanna be straight now! We're all done with the gay thing. It was just a fad and we're bored of constantly being discriminated against and put through horrible situations daily." i promise you homosexuality is gonna be around forever, and whenever y'all just yak and yak about how its wrong youre just putting stress on yourselves and taking years off your life
- like tako said same-sex couples can have children themselves. like its been a thing for awhile. i dont know much about male/male children but i do know female/female couples can have baby girls using bone marrow to "replace" sperm
- don't even get me started on adoption. theres literally an overflow of studies and surveys on how children adopted by gay couples generally do better in every way in their life and on how many gay people want to adopt

i can find and link some sources for this stuff but im really lazy and im not really gonna unless yall want sources since u can just google a lot of this
and also i can easily go into a lot of detail if yall want this is all just shortened

#8 Re: Debates » gun control » 2015-12-20 22:01:48

dont like. the mass shooters have illegal guns 95% of the time anyways
like dont take my word for fact but im pretty sure its not legal to have some giant assault rifle in a school and stuff anyways

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