Ways to make a levels difficult

nlmdejonge · 2015-10-16 21:16:23

As a continuation of another thread where maxi123 asked a similar question...

What are ways to make levels difficult?

(Either fun hard or annoying hard, most of that's subjective anyway.)

Some stuff I can think of:
- Requiring multiple jumps in a row (double jumps, triple jumps, etc).
- Adding time limits, for example with keys/gates/doors or with timed/zombie blocks.
- Arrows that the player needs to traverse at precise speeds while using spacebar+arrows.
- Illusions.
- Puzzles.
- Precision jumping.
- Many hazards and few save points.
- Maze-like levels.

[Edit: More stuff mentioned in this thread below.]
- Lots of 1x1 hooks everywhere (mentioned by Luka504) or 1x1 spaces in a row.
- Eyesores (mentioned by minimania).

TaskManager, Krosis

TaskManager · 2015-10-16 21:23:42

nlmdejonge wrote:

- Illusions.

Like what?

Luka504 · 2015-10-16 21:24:28

1x1 hooks......
EVERYWHERE
*laughs eviley*

Abelysk · 2015-10-16 21:24:30

maxi123 wrote:

nlmdejonge wrote:
- Illusions.
Like what?

Where paths seem evident but aren't actually the real path.

nlmdejonge · 2015-10-16 21:43:22

Itsmeandersonlol wrote:

maxi123 wrote:
nlmdejonge wrote:
- Illusions.
Like what?
Where paths seem evident but aren't actually the real path.

Yeah, for example.
Or where paths don't even seem to exist.

For example the bottom row of my Five Different Kinds of Trouble (forum link).
That's still kinda easy though.

Some more:
- Ex Crew Illusion (game link, cannot find the thread).
- Rotcil Illusions (game link, cannot find the thread).

Possibly related stuff:
- http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewtopic.php?id=8354
- http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewtopic.php?id=8248
- http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewtopic.php?id=8347
- http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewtopic.php?id=8491
- http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewtopic.php?id=7102
- http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewtopic.php?id=6801

Gosha · 2015-10-16 21:58:08

make people dont know where they need to do in 300x300 map
like i do

nlmdejonge · 2015-10-16 22:00:13

A very basic illusion level, as an example:

(image mirror)

Very Easy

Obviously it's best to play this without other players in the level.

TaskManager · 2015-10-16 22:11:39

Ok I get it now, looks interesting

AmdS · 2015-10-16 22:29:32

nlmdejonge wrote:

A very basic illusion level, as an example:

(image mirror)
Very Easy
Obviously it's best to play this without other players in the level.

I like the illusion, and I beated it in 3 seconds.

skullz17 · 2015-10-16 22:46:35

nlmdejonge wrote:

A very basic illusion level, as an example:

(image mirror)
Very Easy
Obviously it's best to play this without other players in the level.

I think that's barely an illusion though. There's no creativity here, it just uses secret blocks. A real illusion should be figured out if the player is smart enough and stares at it long enough, rather than have to play it and find the hidden things.

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Anch · 2015-10-16 22:51:43

I think difficulty shouldn't really be the main focus when creating a minigame, but it should be the creativeness, originality, and fun-ness. Difficulty [insert doesn't equal sign] Fun. I mean sure, its fine to make difficult levels, but it shouldn't be your main focus.

Also 3 more posts until 5,000! Wow I should make a really bad pun or something to celebrate it...

skullz17 · 2015-10-16 22:53:47

I think this topic is more of a "how to make a challenge" rather than specifically making very difficult challenges. But really the name just comes from a comment that someone made in another topic.

Abelysk · 2015-10-16 22:55:49

One type of illusion is the red herring illusion, where there are blocks everywhere, but you can't land on any of them.

In the Halloween Campaign 1st tier, there was an illusion in one of the rooms.

TaskManager · 2015-10-16 22:57:35

Itsmeandersonlol wrote:

One type of illusion is the red herring illusion, where there are blocks everywhere, but you can't land on any of them.
In the Halloween Campaign 1st tier, there was an illusion in one of the rooms.

Yeah the empty room on bottom row with a '?" in the background

Creature · 2015-10-16 23:51:55

anch159 wrote:

I think difficulty shouldn't really be the main focus

What about Variable?

some woman · 2015-10-17 01:05:54

to add to the op:
-kicking a player two seconds after they come in

Aoitenshi · 2015-10-17 01:20:48

For God--NO, precision jumps are the bane of fun.

Pingohits, Minimania

Minimania · 2015-10-17 02:15:32

Ways to make a levels difficult

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EDIT: OT: How about eyesores?

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