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#1 2015-02-28 18:54:35, last edited by ZeldaXD (2015-02-28 19:13:01)

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Alternatives to woot system

Since woot system is a total failure, do you have any alternative to it?

I thought about a system where you can give a level from 1 to 5 stars and then in the lobby it shows the total score like
Player 1 rates 5
Player 2 rates 5 too
5+5 = 10/Total of votes (in this case 2) = 5

And boom, in the lobby it would show 5 stars.
To prevent the abuse it should be as max 2 votes per IP and 1 per account. Also, user would be always allowed to edit the rating.
> As this is a discussion thinking of how to make a better rating system, I posted it in General Discussion,


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#2 2015-02-28 19:12:31

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Yeah, but I'm not going to vote if it's more effort than 1 click.


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#3 2015-02-28 19:13:31

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Relevant xkcd:

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#4 2015-02-28 19:21:16

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Bobithan wrote:

Relevant xkcd:

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geometry dash on the app store has 5 stars

and yet 2K+ people rated


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#5 2015-02-28 19:21:31

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

I like this.  I like it a lot.


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#6 2015-02-28 20:11:11

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Bobithan wrote:

Relevant xkcd:

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^That

I'd say stick with the woot system, but maybe not in this shape or form. The issue with rating is that, sorry to say, most people don't know what's good and bad. If someone can't beat a level because he sucks, he'll rate it 1/5 without any rationale behind it. The same goes for a boring, repetitive minigame level, some nub may give it 5/5 because omg he beat it! People generally, and the EE audience in particular, don't think about their decisions when it comes to rating; they won't be balanced reviews but rather a spur-of-the-moment thought translated into a click.

Check out IMDB for example, look up your favourite movie, and look at the negative reviews. Mostly no explanation, just 1/10 because of...well no reason.

Another reason I'm against it is the begging for good reviews will become even worse than people begging for woots right now.

I'd say rework the woot system, like renaming it to  "likes" for example, and implementing the ability to "favourite" some maps, and display this.

Pingohits wrote:
Bobithan wrote:

Relevant xkcd:

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geometry dash on the app store has 5 stars

and yet 2K+ people rated

You know you can buy reviews, right? Companies do that all the time. Another reason why the rating system is often flawed.


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#7 2015-02-28 20:17:47

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

why not like/dislike in the form of WOOT/woo...


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#8 2015-02-28 20:24:55

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Different55 wrote:

why not like/dislike in the form of WOOT/woo...

Disliking shouldn't be allowed


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#9 2015-02-28 20:51:45

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

There are people that would use lots of accounts to rate 0,5/5 stars with all his accounts to ruin someone´s world...


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#10 2015-02-28 20:53:34

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Just delete the system already to how it was >.<

#11 2015-02-28 20:59:24

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:

why not like/dislike in the form of WOOT/woo...

Disliking shouldn't be allowed

Why not? Are we not aloud to not like levels...?


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#12 2015-02-28 21:01:51

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Kamekthemagician wrote:

There are people that would use lots of accounts to rate 0,5/5 stars with all his accounts to ruin someone´s world...

Read OP.


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#13 2015-02-28 21:14:05

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Master1 wrote:
Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:

why not like/dislike in the form of WOOT/woo...

Disliking shouldn't be allowed

Why not? Are we not aloud to not like levels...?

What's the difference between disliking something and rating it one star?


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#14 2015-02-28 21:20:08

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Problem with woots is that you can't really say how much you liked it.


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#15 2015-02-28 22:20:07

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

ZeldaXD wrote:

Problem with woots is that you can't really say how much you liked it.

Either you enjoyed it enough to be in your top 10 for the day - woot, or you don't - don't woot.

If someone makes a good level but isn't liked - then it will be likely people will give 1 star, with the woot system - people just won't woot. The woot system isn't damaging and can't be used to bully others. If this game really is aimed at kids then there should not be any form of disliking - unless this game isn't aimed at kids then the chat censor should be removed.


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#16 2015-02-28 22:21:54

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Koya wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:

Problem with woots is that you can't really say how much you liked it.

Either you enjoyed it enough to be in your top 10 for the day - woot, or you don't - don't woot.

If someone makes a good level but isn't liked - then it will be likely people will give 1 star, with the woot system - people just won't woot. The woot system isn't damaging and can't be used to bully others. If this game really is aimed at kids then there should not be any form of disliking - unless this game isn't aimed at kids then the chat censor should be removed.

YouTube worked really well with a stars system. It would be a good reward to good level makers.


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#17 2015-02-28 22:59:01

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

ZeldaXD wrote:
Koya wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:

Problem with woots is that you can't really say how much you liked it.

Either you enjoyed it enough to be in your top 10 for the day - woot, or you don't - don't woot.

If someone makes a good level but isn't liked - then it will be likely people will give 1 star, with the woot system - people just won't woot. The woot system isn't damaging and can't be used to bully others. If this game really is aimed at kids then there should not be any form of disliking - unless this game isn't aimed at kids then the chat censor should be removed.

YouTube worked really well with a stars system. It would be a good reward to good level makers.

YouTube has 100 million times more users in its userbase than EE...

#18 2015-02-28 23:16:26

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Itsmeandersonlol wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:
Koya wrote:

Either you enjoyed it enough to be in your top 10 for the day - woot, or you don't - don't woot.

If someone makes a good level but isn't liked - then it will be likely people will give 1 star, with the woot system - people just won't woot. The woot system isn't damaging and can't be used to bully others. If this game really is aimed at kids then there should not be any form of disliking - unless this game isn't aimed at kids then the chat censor should be removed.

YouTube worked really well with a stars system. It would be a good reward to good level makers.

YouTube has 100 million times more users in its userbase than EE...

What would you suggest as alternative to woot system.


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#19 2015-03-01 00:59:36, last edited by Koya (2015-03-01 01:00:40)

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

ZeldaXD wrote:
Itsmeandersonlol wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:

YouTube worked really well with a stars system. It would be a good reward to good level makers.

YouTube has 100 million times more users in its userbase than EE...

What would you suggest as alternative to woot system.

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... To keep the woot system


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#20 2015-03-01 01:18:25

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Koya wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:
Itsmeandersonlol wrote:

YouTube has 100 million times more users in its userbase than EE...

What would you suggest as alternative to woot system.

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... To keep the woot system

No. I don't like it.

#21 2015-03-01 01:21:17

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Itsmeandersonlol wrote:
Koya wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:

What would you suggest as alternative to woot system.

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... To keep the woot system

No. I don't like it.

Youtube is less personal than YouTube and voting is anonymous, not like you can dislike someone's video and then come across them day after day


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#22 2015-03-01 01:26:12

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Koya wrote:
Itsmeandersonlol wrote:
Koya wrote:

No. I don't like it.

Youtube is less personal than YouTube and voting is anonymous, not like you can dislike someone's video and then come across them day after day

Make EE votes anonymous then.


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#23 2015-03-01 03:33:35

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

Don't need for that


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#24 2015-03-01 15:46:02

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

lolwtfbbq wrote:

Don't need for that

Why not?


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#25 2015-03-01 15:52:25

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Re: Alternatives to woot system

For a game that is apparently aimed at kids there should only be positive voting, like on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.


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