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#1 Before February 2015

Terence22205
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~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

I personally think that the guest bomb bot should be somehow unable for people to use. With the guest bomb bot, anyone with a terrible level can get 10k+ plays for a garbage level, just from people going into the level. Without it, the only levels that would be on top would be the ones that deserve to be on top.

This is only my third post on this board so im not sure how you guys think of guest bomb. This discussion is meant for you to share your views on the guest bomb bot and to defend your topic. Thanks! //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

#2 Before February 2015

XxAtillaxX
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

Within the new updates it was announced that Guests no longer contribute to a world's play counter.


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#3 Before February 2015

Terence22205
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

?tilla wrote:

Within the new updates it was announced that Guests no longer contribute to a world's play counter.

Yes, but they count as players. Would you rather join the level with 35 players or one player? and which are you more likely to see in the lobby? I think they just shouldn't count for plays or players. :/

#4 Before February 2015

MIHB
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

I've asked a couple people to make a bot that auto-crashes worlds with a ton of guests, but hasn't come through yet.

#5 Before February 2015

Terence22205
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

MIHB wrote:

I've asked a couple people to make a bot that auto-crashes worlds with a ton of guests, but hasn't come through yet.

That would be great! Please keep working on that //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile The problem is though, I don't want to hurt guests because of what irritating people do. Maybe something to detect guests that all come from the same IP. Thanks for working on that though! Please keep us posted on the bot //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

#6 Before February 2015

XxAtillaxX
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

MIHB wrote:

I've asked a couple people to make a bot that auto-crashes worlds with a ton of guests, but hasn't come through yet.

You're implying that just deploying a shizzload of guests to a room will crash it. This isn't going to work, I bet.
The reality is, if Chris doesn't count guests, and let's say there's 35 guests in the room, a majority of them are playing,
it won't count the Guests, meaning infinite Guests in the world, possibly crashing lots due to lots of movement data.
That also means that if lots of guests are in a world, the world would be full at liek 10 people.

the reason there is a limit is because rooms can only handle so much data transfer before crashing.


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#7 Before February 2015

MIHB
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

not "auto crashes worlds by using a ton of guests", "auto crashes 'worlds with a ton of guests'"

crashing tech is already out there, as you are well aware

#8 Before February 2015

XxAtillaxX
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

MIHB wrote:

not "auto crashes worlds by using a ton of guests", "auto crashes 'worlds with a ton of guests'"

crashing tech is already out there, as you are well aware

Using a ton of guests to try to overflow a room with data using socket connections with no real ability to stockup data (as far as I'm concerned) is an idiotic procedure, and it would only work if yo built a tiny botnet and had them all join a r room and send massive amounts of moving. This is tedious for something so simple.
And yes, it's possible to autocrash worlds, I bet I could easily find a loophole, however
I'm against crashing innocent worlds, and just because a world is guest bombed doesn't mean that it is a crime.

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#9 Before February 2015

Terence22205
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

?tilla wrote:
MIHB wrote:

not "auto crashes worlds by using a ton of guests", "auto crashes 'worlds with a ton of guests'"

crashing tech is already out there, as you are well aware

Using a ton of guests to try to overflow a room with data using socket connections with no real ability to stockup data (as far as I'm concerned) is an idiotic procedure, and it would only work if yo built a tiny botnet and had them all join a r room and send massive amounts of moving. This is tedious for something so simple.
And yes, it's possible to autocrash worlds, I bet I could easily find a loophole, however
I'm against crashing innocent worlds, and just because a world is guest bombed doesn't mean that it is a crime.

I get it if people with good worlds want to share them with people, and I thank them for that. However, its the useless garbage worlds that have 5k plays that really irk me.

Last edited by terence22205 (Jul 31 2012 2:40:34 pm)

#10 Before February 2015

XxAtillaxX
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

terence22205 wrote:

I get it if people with good worlds want to share them with people, and I thank them for that. However, its the useless garbage worlds that have 5k plays that really irk me.

inb4

?tilla wrote:

Within the new updates it was announced that Guests no longer contribute to a world's play counter.

It's no longer a problem, and as far as I know, having a high play count doesn't give any rewards. =P


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#11 Before February 2015

MIHB
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

?tilla wrote:
MIHB wrote:

not "auto crashes worlds by using a ton of guests", "auto crashes 'worlds with a ton of guests'"

crashing tech is already out there, as you are well aware

Using a ton of guests to try to overflow a room with data using socket connections with no real ability to stockup data (as far as I'm concerned) is an idiotic procedure, and it would only work if yo built a tiny botnet and had them all join a r room and send massive amounts of moving. This is tedious for something so simple.

Where are you getting this from?   I've never said that anybody plans to crash worlds using tons of guests.

#12 Before February 2015

Fdoou
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

no no no atilla. no no no.
Mihb plans to have a bot that crashes a world if it has too many guests
the world is NOT crashed by the guests, it is crashed by a bot

Last edited by Fdoou (Jul 31 2012 3:55:24 pm)

#13 Before February 2015

XxAtillaxX
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Posts: 4,202

Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

Fdoou wrote:

no no no atilla. no no no.
Mihb plans to have a bot that crashes a world if it has too many guests
the world is NOT crashed by the guests, it is crashed by a bot

I see, all I was doing was fully explaining that whole segmentation of technique.

Either way, as I have explained, in order to crash a room you need to overflow it with data.
As far as I see it, the worst combination would be coins and movement data.

In fact, I have before made a bot to crash rooms using a certain type of movement, I can't do it anymore though since I lost the code (programmed it in Flash).

Good luck trying to replicate it, however, I believe I tried a second time and failed.


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#14 Before February 2015

bgic
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

MIHB wrote:

I've asked a couple people to make a bot that auto-crashes worlds with a ton of guests, but hasn't come through yet.

there will come a accountbombbot

#15 Before February 2015

C3po345
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

If it wasn't for guestbombing,
No one who tried to be popular would be popular. Like look at me. I don't use bots (Fdoou can probably complain about this) and most of my levels aren't too popular. (Excluding Stuff and Minimap Magic Youtube [Action 52 is musicart in progress])

#16 Before February 2015

Terence22205
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

C3po345 wrote:

If it wasn't for guestbombing,
No one who tried to be popular would be popular. Like look at me. I don't use bots (Fdoou can probably complain about this) and most of my levels aren't too popular. (Excluding Stuff and Minimap Magic Youtube [Action 52 is musicart in progress])

Thats the huge problem, I enter levels with 20k plays and im like meh, but then I enter some with 200 plays and they deserve at least 30k. Guest bomb seems to ruin some deserving levels //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

#17 Before February 2015

Zakleo
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

?tilla wrote:

Within the new updates it was announced that Guests no longer contribute to a world's play counter.

Great //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

#18 Before February 2015

Tony
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

Do the guests last forever? I want AFK guests for some levels.

#19 Before February 2015

32OrtonEdge32dh
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Joined: 2015-02-15
Posts: 5,166
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

No, they only last until you close the tab/window.


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#20 Before February 2015

Kirby
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Joined: 2015-04-04
Posts: 4,307

Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

terence, then i enter your world with 20k plays and i think it deserves less then 100, and guess what? its bombed atm

http://everybodyedits.com/games/PWLw4PPq6GbEI

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#21 Before February 2015

Terence22205
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

Kirby wrote:

terence, then i enter your world with 20k plays and i think it deserves less then 100, and guess what? its bombed atm

http://everybodyedits.com/games/PWLw4PPq6GbEI

hypocrite

My friend bombed that for me actually. Im deleting it and starting a better one sometime this week.

#22 Before February 2015

TyeMan
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Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

I sort of agree. Only ones who should use it are mods who can make it unable to use like make it patched. So I agree. I have a link to one, want it to show a mod like e-mail him the link? //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

#23 Before February 2015

Krock
Guest

Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

Always this topic...
WHY not JUST make a system LIKE "Put my world at top of list"
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#24 Before February 2015

eeplayer17
Guest

Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

Just make it so there can't be more than 5 or so guests in a level and no guests with the same IP. Problem solved.

#25 Before February 2015

Tony
Guest

Re: ~~Guest Bomb Bot~~

Dont remove it! I need to guest bomb to make an AFK smiley for my level!

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