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#1 Before February 2015

Alexthementalone
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Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

Right, so I was playing a level and I came across these 2 separate minis:

Easy Mini

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Annoying Mini

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You can see these 2 minis differentiate completely in difficulty, one is used as a filler for worlds whilst the other is just plain annoying. So, do you like to see consistency in minis? I know that when the level progresses minis are supposed to get harder, but for this world some of the minis at the end were easy. So does this bother you that you come across an easier mini near the end or does consistency not bother you?

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#2 Before February 2015

Creature
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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

I don't bother, sometimes the first mini is harder than all other minis.


This is a false statement.

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#3 Before February 2015

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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

no one knows how to do difficulty curve right
honestly the only thing that matters is the first be easy and the last be hard

the middle can be as stupidly spiky as possible


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#4 Before February 2015

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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

as long as they're unique, I couldn't care less about the difficulty.

#5 Before February 2015

dragonranger
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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

Also, if its transition/filler minis as you stated, its fine if they are easy compared to everything else. As long as what Tach said //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue

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#6 Before February 2015

tak4n
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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

I personally don't like to call the examples you showed as "minis" because they don't deserve to be called that.

Also you need to be very experienced to make minis scale in difficulty well. There are a lot of times where you have to erase a mini completely if it doesn't scale well. There are a lot of ways to counter this;
1. Make filler minis that are still really good and fun to play which you didn't want to erase.
2. Change the path of the art which cannot be done in a lot of cases. A lot of worlds have linear pathing so this doesn't work for most worlds.
3. You can make minis random in difficulty but make sure that the last one is extra challenging.
4. Make the minis balanced in difficulty.

If you keep the minis enjoyable, innovative and fun to play it shouldn't matter if they scale in difficulty well unless the world has this specific purpose.


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#7 Before February 2015

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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

If it's there, I don't even bother.

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#8 Before February 2015

Koto
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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

This is why I make minis first.   After designing a bunch of stuff I like, I can go in later, and figure out the difficulty curve.   If I need to insert a mini or two to make the curve work, its not that much.   Although, sometimes I have to sacrifice a small section of the curve to make the minis fit in the world right, it still benefits me a lot more than making random minis that have a predetermined outline, while trying to stick to a difficulty curve.


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#9 Before February 2015

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Joined: 2015-04-22
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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

Personally I don't mind the differences in difficulty, since it gives a bit of variation. However, I think that there could be a way to create (programmatically or another somewhat non-bias way) to gauge the difficulty level of a level.

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#10 Before February 2015

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Re: Your views on minis uneven in difficulty...

Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, for instance 3 jumps are going to be harder than 2 jumps of the same format but 2 jumps of a different format could be harder than 3 of another, so I think there can be a rough incline of difficulty but mini to mini may go up and down in your own difficulty perception.


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