Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 15:50:21

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AllenCaspe9510 · 2021-05-08 15:56:55

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mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 15:58:22

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I know Allen isn’t.

No... you don't...

The only thing your town read of Allen rides on is an unlikely event that requires Orton to play like he has no idea what's going on.

I literally tried to keep you from being killed/converted with a dumb role claim. And I was willing to lynch orton when diff outed him as the witch.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Jawapa will kill you if you lynch me, it’s guaranteed.

The game is over if a town is lynched today. It will be 1 town vs 2 evil vs 1 neutral.

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 15:58:29

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mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 15:59:29

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mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 16:01:30

Wait no, lmao
I'm not whispering to anyone, I'm DM'ing mini.

Its become a habit

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 16:02:22

I don’t think you understand.
I’m reasonably confident that Allen IS town because of what Orton and Allen told me.

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 16:04:14

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2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 16:05:50

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AllenCaspe9510 · 2021-05-08 16:06:12

!vote mrjawapa

2b55b5g, Abiqi

mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 16:10:40

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Allen told me.

Right, allen hasn't lied so far. Why would he lie now?

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I don’t think you understand

I think you're really bad at reading people. And I think Allen is pulling some noob plays and you're falling for them.

mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 16:13:19

At what point do we find out 2B is actually the mafia and has been controlling us like puppets

That would be 5/5

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 16:14:38

I’m just gonna be honest here, I was never town to begin with.
I cooperated with a bunch of people since D4,
Orton told me that he directed Task to Allen, Allen claimed to have a different alignment.

Unless Orton and Allen cooperated for some reason and lied to me (what’s the reason to do that anyway), I believe Allen is town.
I’m not falling for anything.

mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 16:18:44

..............

You can't be serious

Think about what you just said.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Unless Orton and Allen cooperated for some reason and lied to me

You mean... what if THE WITCH cooperated with THE MAFIA???

What a bizarre thing to think. Why would two evil factions team up and lie to the town?

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I was never town to begin with

Then what are you?

mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 16:22:31

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AllenCaspe9510 · 2021-05-08 16:27:07

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mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 16:31:21

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2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 16:44:02

Why would Orton cooperate with me if he was already cooperating with Allen though. Orton could just reject my invitation to cooperate, and he'd still win if Allen is mafia.

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 16:49:07

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2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 16:56:13

There's literally no way that Allen knows Orton and me are cooperating, and told Orton to tell me that he controlled Task to Allen.
I think Orton has only been whispering you and Jawapa, it's near impossible that he told Allen about this.

Orton even suggested me to not lynch today. If I lynched you and you're actually a Survivor, I'd be dead for sure. There's no reason for Orton to stop me if he's cooperating with a mafia.

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 16:56:36

only whispering you and me*

mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 17:25:18

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Why would Orton cooperate with me if he was already cooperating with Allen though.

You're confusing cooperation with manipulation.

Why would orton cooperate with you at all if he thought you were town? Orton cooperating with the town is almost game throwing.

He's lying to you so you believe Allen is town.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

If I lynched you and you're actually a Survivor, I'd be dead for sure.

If you lynch me, there won't be anymore deaths. The game would be over. It's an auto mafia win, since there is no way for town to win.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Orton even suggested me to not lynch today.

Couldn't possibly be that he doesn't want to risk Allen being lynched. Orton needs Allen alive to win. Orton can't win with the town.

2 evil, 2 town, 1 neutral

No lynch today, Allen kills you or exo

2 evil, 1 town, 1 neutral

Mafia/witch/survivor win

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 17:37:28

I'm vamps with Exco, Orton knows that.
The situation right now is 2v1v1v1 (vamps vs mafia vs town vs witch) / (vamps vs mafia vs surv vs witch).

Tell me why Orton would stop me from lynching. If Allen is mafia and he's cooperating with Orton, the outcome Orton would most likely want is for me to not lynch mafia, making it 2v1v1, mafia kills a vamp, and I'd lose. He knew I was already planning to lynch you, so why stop me if Allen is mafia?

Your logic is based on me and Exco being town, but we're not.

mrjawapa · 2021-05-08 17:57:10

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Tell me why Orton would stop me from lynching.

Not lynching always benefits the mafia

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

the outcome Orton would most likely want is for me to not lynch mafia, making it 2v1v1, mafia kills a vamp, and I'd lose.

If you're not **** with me about the vampire thing, then yes. At least you understand that part.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

He knew I was already planning to lynch you, so why stop me if Allen is mafia?

Because no lynching always benefits the mafia. It's safe for them, especially now when Allen looks sus and there's a chance you and exo flip their votes.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Your logic is based on me and Exco being town, but we're not.

Ehh, not really. It's based on you and exo being on the same team. I wasn't expecting you to be vampires, but it doesn't really matter.

Lynching Allen today still gives you a win.

It would be 2 vampires vs 1 survivor vs 1 witch

Vampires and survivor win

2b55b5g · 2021-05-08 18:05:18

mrjawapa wrote:

Not lynching always benefits the mafia

Not in this case. Again, Orton knew that I plan to lynch you, I wouldn't have changed my mind.
If Allen really is mafia, you being lynched only benefits Orton and Allen.

Maybe he's trying to play safe, but it's gonna be 1v1v1v1 if nolynch happens today, since mafia will definitely kill a vamp. Majority is 50% + 1, if the next day another vamp is lynched, it's still 1v1v1, Witch doesn't know if Mafia will betray, I don't know if a Witch+Mafia win is possible as well since mafia can just kill Witch in the end.
To me it makes absolutely no sense for Orton to team up with mafia, regardless of who it is, a Witch+Vamp win is much more safe.

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