Difficulty rating problems

TowerOfDustAndDecay · 2021-03-28 01:38:25

So, this goes over the problems about the campaign difficulty ratings.

First of all, in this subject, the Easy-Medium campaigns are some of the most discussable.

Say, you made a very hard level, with tons of momentum, speed control, precision, and more.

Then, one day, you notice that your level is part of a campaign. But what difficulty is this campaign?

Easy? Medium? Probably.

There are tons of straining levels that get brushed off as easy.

Later we have Springopolis.

The route progression gets extremely hard to know about there. But guess what the difficulty is?

A literal Basic. So they're calling a "where-do-i-go" causing level no-effort, babying, rookie-friendly, free, and most of all, unambiguous?

The hell? Meanwhile EE Mountain World, taking part in an Extreme, is more like bare Hard, not Hard-EXTREME.

One of the only actually relatable ratings (there's more than this, hopefully) is the Worst campaign. The jumps are well suited for a daunting Insane.

Also, Phina And The Rose is too easy for it's Basic-Easy. Should be plain Basic. Mihb's Dream? The only thing that makes it look even remotely challenging is the stairs. That's it. Yeah what.

EDIT: Writing this in 2023, 2 years after I decided to post this garbage. Just know that this was all while I had a severe skill issue, or had blatant EO opinions.

2b55b5g · 2021-03-28 01:43:20

worst tier 4 needs a rating higher than insane tbh

Joeyjoey65

TowerOfDustAndDecay · 2021-03-28 01:59:57

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

worst tier 4 needs a rating higher than insane tbh

I mean, there's no diff harder than insane

Joeyjoey65 · 2021-03-28 03:01:16

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

worst tier 4 needs a rating higher than insane tbh

ythis mini alone

(also I think they should've added a new difficulty to the game such as Unreasonable or just "Impossible" colored with black)

St1ckS4m(EE)

TowerOfDustAndDecay · 2021-03-28 20:26:00

Joeyjoey65 wrote:

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
worst tier 4 needs a rating higher than insane tbh
ythis mini alone
https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … nknown.png
(also I think they should've added a new difficulty to the game such as Unreasonable or just "Impossible" colored with black)

Mortifying is good. It should have a gradient between blue and yellow. But there is a catch, there's some impossible color. Yellowish blue.

Kirby · 2021-03-28 22:22:37

man i thought we'd stop getting **** for this the last campaign release was like 2 years ago

edit: here's my response to this, a lot of difficulty ratings are very subjective but even then i pretty strongly disagree with some of the examples here (namely phina and the rose, EE mountain world, and especially MIHB's dream)

Joeyjoey65

Grilyon2 · 2021-03-28 22:57:44

Springopolis isn't "hard to know the route", obviously if you don't read the signs or just do the parkour without looking around it will be hard.

Joeyjoey65

TowerOfDustAndDecay · 2021-03-29 00:52:33

Grilyon2 wrote:

Springopolis isn't "hard to know the route", obviously if you don't read the signs or just do the parkour without looking around it will be hard.

The only signs I even saw so far in that campaign were filler but without the purpose of filling the map. ruined by my perpetual illiteracy.

EDIT: Oh, and meanwhile in the double jump training there's some arrow thingy where you have one, OOONE second to double jump. Totally basic. Well yeah it is, because 2021 me (total noob, by the way)'s opinion shouldn't matter.

Kirby · 2021-03-29 03:28:05

TowerOfDustAndDecay wrote:

Grilyon2 wrote:
Springopolis isn't "hard to know the route", obviously if you don't read the signs or just do the parkour without looking around it will be hard.
The only signs I even saw so far in that campaign were filler but without the purpose of filling the map.
EDIT: Oh, and meanwhile in the double jump training there's some arrow meaning where you have one, OOONE second to double jump. Totally basic.

bro pls

this is the hardest mini in the level

gave the keyboard to my little brother who has never touched EE, he did it within a minute. Basic = accessible to new players, not 100% mindless platforming

Grilyon2, rat, Slabdrill, Joeyjoey65, Onjit

TowerOfDustAndDecay · 2021-03-29 03:40:21

Kirby wrote:

TowerOfDustAndDecay wrote:
Grilyon2 wrote:
Springopolis isn't "hard to know the route", obviously if you don't read the signs or just do the parkour without looking around it will be hard.
The only signs I even saw so far in that campaign were filler but without the purpose of filling the map.
EDIT: Oh, and meanwhile in the double jump training there's some arrow meaning where you have one, OOONE second to double jump. Totally basic.
bro pls
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … nknown.png
this is the hardest mini in the level
gave the keyboard to my little brother who has never touched EE, he did it within a minute. Basic = accessible to new players, not 100% mindless platforming

umm thats literally where you need to see a doctor if you struggle

i can confirm the one my dysfunctional brain cannot comprehend most blatantly is that right arrow thing

Kirby · 2021-03-29 04:02:19

TowerOfDustAndDecay wrote:

Kirby wrote:
TowerOfDustAndDecay wrote:
Grilyon2 wrote:
Springopolis isn't "hard to know the route", obviously if you don't read the signs or just do the parkour without looking around it will be hard.
The only signs I even saw so far in that campaign were filler but without the purpose of filling the map.
EDIT: Oh, and meanwhile in the double jump training there's some arrow meaning where you have one, OOONE second to double jump. Totally basic.
bro pls
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … nknown.png
this is the hardest mini in the level
gave the keyboard to my little brother who has never touched EE, he did it within a minute. Basic = accessible to new players, not 100% mindless platforming
umm thats literally where you need to see a doctor if you struggle
i can confirm the hardest one is that right arrow thing

that's just hitting the spacebar twice in a second, that's literally it - most people are familiar with how to double click on a file on their desktop to open it, they should be able to apply that skill to their spacebar

TowerOfDustAndDecay · 2021-03-29 04:12:30

Kirby wrote:

TowerOfDustAndDecay wrote:
Kirby wrote:
TowerOfDustAndDecay wrote:
Grilyon2 wrote:
Springopolis isn't "hard to know the route", obviously if you don't read the signs or just do the parkour without looking around it will be hard.
The only signs I even saw so far in that campaign were filler but without the purpose of filling the map.
EDIT: Oh, and meanwhile in the double jump training there's some arrow meaning where you have one, OOONE second to double jump. Totally basic.
bro pls
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … nknown.png
this is the hardest mini in the level
gave the keyboard to my little brother who has never touched EE, he did it within a minute. Basic = accessible to new players, not 100% mindless platforming
umm thats literally where you need to see a doctor if you struggle
i can confirm the hardest one is that right arrow thing
that's just hitting the spacebar twice in a second, that's literally it - most people are familiar with how to double click on a file on their desktop to open it, they should be able to apply that skill to their spacebar

and in spring relics theres some t jump lookin thing

back to the topic of springopolis, that split second when you cant jump in ee apparently happens all the time in the mini i struggle with

wjyg · 2021-04-01 06:46:03

"phina and the rose" is hard-extreme for me, it have story and i need remember ton of things on speedrun, it even harder than "the memory game"
and we dont really need a higher level difficulty, ip just stand on high tier on insane, and there still things harder than that[if we dont talk about god mode tested unbeaten level like beyond madness]

Joeyjoey65

TowerOfDustAndDecay · 2021-04-01 17:38:21

Kawaii_kidnapper wrote:

"phina and the rose" is hard-extreme for me, it have story and i need remember ton of things on speedrun, it even harder than "the memory game"
and we dont really need a higher level difficulty, ip just stand on high tier on insane, and there still things harder than that[if we dont talk about god mode tested unbeaten level like beyond madness]

you serious?
GOO GOO GA GA I AM AN IDIOT WHO CANNOT COMPREHEND A JOKE

wjyg · 2021-06-14 14:53:46

TowerOfDustAndDecay wrote:

Kawaii_kidnapper wrote:
"phina and the rose" is hard-extreme for me, it have story and i need remember ton of things on speedrun, it even harder than "the memory game"
and we dont really need a higher level difficulty, ip just stand on high tier on insane, and there still things harder than that[if we dont talk about god mode tested unbeaten level like beyond madness]
you serious?
you need to see a doctor if you think phina and the rose is hard-extreme

yes im sure, if we dont talk puzzle/memory difficulty, all puzzle/story/quiz/luck world with no minigame would be basic, even the puzzle is insane [like booster palace]

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