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#551 2020-06-10 00:47:04

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

My theory right now is that Milk man and SK both shot cop, and milk man converted Pqwerty.
Actually i’d prefer voting him if it wasn’t critical to get rid of SK today, because it’s obvious he’s completely changed his reads and alignment today. Just compare his newest post with earlier posts.


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#552 2020-06-10 00:48:52

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

The last point I said is just speculation, so it's not my strongest reason for lynching you.
My biggest reason for lynching you is you had an outlook that only the SK could have on yesterday's lynch.

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#164 he says “Why would I be Tasks’s teammate lmao. I’m just fine voting him too”. Because they say “I’m just fine voting him too” means that they’re fine with voting for Task AND they’re fine with voting for Shadow. Now, this seems weird because for town, there’s one really good lynch (in this case it was to lynch Shadow) and there’s one really bad lynch (mislynching the vig, Taskmanager), and for a town to be fine with both the really good lynch and the really bad lynch comes off as strange to me. The mafia have the same reason to pick a side, because they want a vig mislynch and they don’t want to lose their partner. Now, the only party that would be indifferent on the result of the lynch is the SK. The SK doesn’t care who dies, they just want people to die, so who they lynch doesn’t matter to them.

As I said, the town cares about the lynch because they want to lynch the mafia, and the mafia cares about the lynch because they want to mislynch the vig. But you were okay with mislynching the vig or lynching the mafia. That's an opinion that can only be held by the SK because they are the only party that would be indifferent to this lynch. And that's why I think you're the SK.

What's your defense against this?

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#553 2020-06-10 00:52:24

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Where was i ok with mislynching the vig? I tried to check the likelihood of Task/Shadow being mafia and cross-examine which was likely. Just because i briefly chose wrong should prove i had nefarious intentions? It doesn’t. And i don’t believe you completely change your previous thoughts from logic to complete guesswork and ****.


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#554 2020-06-10 00:54:29

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

All of my effort yesterday does not come from someone that is "indifferent to the lynch".
Anyway, sorry if this comes off as rambley, but i’m typing from my phone while in bed at 2 AM to defend myself from your accusation.


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#555 2020-06-10 01:15:40

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Wait, when you said "I'm just as fine lynching him too", was this when you thought Luka and Task were a team? Because you were on Luka at the time. And that just means you were saying "I would lynch either Luka or Task", and not "I would lynch either Shadow or Task".
Is that what you meant by this statement? Because then yeah I'm misunderstanding what you wrote.

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#556 2020-06-10 01:19:55

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Yes. You did misunderstand. At least i hope that’s all you did.


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#557 2020-06-10 01:39:19

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I claim Townie

I haven't really contributed much in anything, and once again asking for forgiveness of mine against flushing luka into the toilet.

TaskManager wrote:

there's a possiblity that milkman tried to convert jawapa and jawapa got wiped out by SK the same night

milkman probably converted you

There's things that a milkman might be doing right now.
1.) Inactive
2.) Waits for endgame
that's probably it


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#558 2020-06-10 01:45:56

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

!unvote

My bad. My main reason for voting you is a misunderstanding and the other things aren't too indicative. So, if you're town, Task is vig, I'm town, and Onjit is town (because he's playing in the tournament and kills have still gone through), by process of elimination that leaves Allen, Buzzer, and Gabe as our last 2-3 scum.

Among the three, Allen seems the scummiest so

!vote Allen

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#559 2020-06-10 01:52:10

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Oof, you have lost your mind


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#560 2020-06-10 02:54:10

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

The milkman might actually be Pqwerty, Trying to be the master mind of this game.
His scum theories are likely scum alike trying to get a good bet on trying to convert. And himself trying to pull a knuckle on me is totally repetitive.

-His posts doesn't come up with the best intel.
-Doesn't fully backtrack, just goes with the flow
-In his post, #343. He listed alot of towners as neutral and below
-I asked him if he wanted me to scum hunt. But he was too lazy to answer
-He misunderstood my roleclaim that isn't even convincing enough to me


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#561 2020-06-10 03:56:25

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

!vote Pqwerty

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#562 2020-06-10 07:03:31

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

AllenCaspe9510 wrote:

The milkman might actually be Pqwerty, Trying to be the master mind of this game.
His scum theories are likely scum alike trying to get a good bet on trying to convert. And himself trying to pull a knuckle on me is totally repetitive.

-His posts doesn't come up with the best intel.
-Doesn't fully backtrack, just goes with the flow
-In his post, #343. He listed alot of towners as neutral and below
-I asked him if he wanted me to scum hunt. But he was too lazy to answer
-He misunderstood my roleclaim that isn't even convincing enough to me

1) I don't have the best intel because I don't have all the information. I'm trying my best with what I have.
2) What does this even mean? If I don't fully backtrack, that means we're farther ahead than we started. Also, I don't think I've been going with the flow. I've been trying to ask good questions and make good reads this entire game.
3) How am I supposed to know that they're town? I put them as Neutral because they either hadn't posted or they did stuff that was both pro-town and pro-scum.
4) Of course I want you to scumhunt. You should always be scumhunting. Why does my response to that determine whether you scumhunt or not?
5) My misunderstanding was directed at Norboy, not you. I thought he scumslipped but I misunderstood the post.

I'm not the only person who thinks you're scum, Allen. I really don't want to sound mean or rude or anything, but shouldn't you be wondering why you're being scumread by so many people instead of adding to the reasons why they scumread you?
Again, I'm trying to say this as nicely as possible.

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#563 2020-06-10 16:29:47

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

My theory right now is that Milk man and SK both shot cop, and milk man converted Pqwerty.

i dont think the milkman is able to carry out both a factional kill and a conversion at the same night

imo norboy vs luka *could* be a TvS case
main issues i have with norboy arise back from his day 1 play (to be fair i didnt bother reading into anyone much during day 2 lmao)
whats interesting is that both norboy and pqwerty at one point argued for not lynching either myself or shadow
if you think about it, this strategy benefits SK the most, since for SK to win they have to keep mafia and town balanced to prevent one wiping another out and hunting for SK
not lynching either myself or shadow means that both a mafia member and a town PR are out of the game (because we shoot eachother), plus the town loses a confirmed townie slot
i don't think norboy blindly following the cop D2 is incriminating, its a reasonable thing to do since at the time jawapa seemed the most townish
i felt odd about the "i have no problem lynching task either" thing but i guess thats been explained now

AllenCaspe9510 wrote:

There's things that a milkman might be doing right now.
1.) Inactive
2.) Waits for endgame
that's probably it

its like youre not even trying to pretend youre contributing lol

AllenCaspe9510 wrote:

-I asked him if he wanted me to scum hunt. But he was too lazy to answer

i dont want to interfere within the interrogation process but this scum tell ironically makes you only seem scummier

Pqwerty wrote:

and Onjit is town (because he's playing in the tournament and kills have still gone through)

inb4 mafia plays 4d chess and converted onjit


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#564 2020-06-10 16:34:06

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Tbh i’m a bit paranoid about you being converted Task. You’re confirmed town and would normally never be the lynch unless we suspected you converted.


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#565 2020-06-10 16:35:35

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

what if thats what milkman wants us to think :flush:


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#566 2020-06-10 16:35:50

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

But i’m willing to work with the mafia regardless today, ironically enough. So if Allen is the SK then town can still win and mafia gains advantage too.


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#567 2020-06-10 16:50:17

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Milkman couldn’t have converted last night because they chose to kill instead. Right?
Role description says only one of those abilities can be used per night. So at least today we shouldn’t have to worry about anyone being converted because nobody has been yet

Correct me if I’m wrong


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#568 2020-06-10 16:52:06

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

BuzzerBee wrote:

Milkman couldn’t have converted last night because they chose to kill instead. Right?

How do you know that?


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#569 2020-06-10 16:53:13

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Also there must be like a **** ton of vanilla townies because there are only six named/power roles and a total of 13 players


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#570 2020-06-10 16:54:11

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
BuzzerBee wrote:

Milkman couldn’t have converted last night because they chose to kill instead. Right?

How do you know that?

Bro I literally explained right below what you quoted

BuzzerBee wrote:

Milkman couldn’t have converted last night because they chose to kill instead. Right?
Role description says only one of those abilities can be used per night. So at least today we shouldn’t have to worry about anyone being converted because nobody has been yet


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#571 2020-06-10 16:56:52

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Let me explain better:

Milkman can’t convert on N1.

ShadowsEdge (mafia) dies on D2.

There are two kills on N2, which means milkman must have killed instead of converting


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#572 2020-06-10 17:02:52

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

i shot luka lol
im vigi


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#573 2020-06-10 17:03:15

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

BuzzerBee wrote:

There are two kills on N2

Taskmanager killed Luka. He is town. That makes only one confirmed mafia/SK kill.


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#574 2020-06-10 17:16:29

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Oh, mafia milk man can only do a recruit/kill. Well in that case the most likely events is that someone was recruited by mafia while SK killed cop.


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#575 2020-06-10 17:26:50

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I’m also voting to end the day quickly because i do not have much more to discuss right now. Don’t think i will change my vote.

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