Mafia 40 - Russian Roulette Mafia Victory!

mrjawapa · 2020-01-26 20:49:28

Processor wrote:

But you're not even explaining why that is scummy

Because the questions you're dodging are regarding your scummy actions.

Processor wrote:

You're also refusing to engage with me on considering our other options

You're refusing to defend your actions, and instead attempt to direct everyone's attention elsewhere.

Processor wrote:

Someone, anyone, please explain to me why we have stopped suspecting TaskManager?

I haven't. I think you're acting more suspicious than task.

BuzzerBee

mrjawapa · 2020-01-26 20:50:34

Processor wrote:

- why you are refusing to consider other options: ele + Task

According to you, that's all I've done this game.

Different55 · 2020-01-26 20:54:01

Processor wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Do you really expect me to have a say in that?
No I was replying to Jawapa.
Someone explain why:
- my "dodging" of questions which has been due to my lack of time is scummy
- why you are refusing to consider other options: ele + Task

I don't think people are. Mutant drew some attention earlier in the day from jawapa, IIRC he brought that up when he was receiving some attention of his own? 2B has earned some eyes on him. Theoretically I have my eyes anyone who played the innochild game and voted for norboy in this game but I still haven't looked up who that is yet. Ele has gotten plenty of suspicion thrown her way, too. It's just that rn you have the MOST attention.

mrjawapa, Processor, 2b55b5g

2b55b5g · 2020-01-26 21:20:57

idk but for me, proc is just simply using bs reasons to get rid of task.

TaskManager wrote:

Processor wrote:
mrjawapa wrote:
Gonna need a link to where you asked these questions. I'm not finding them.
Processor wrote:
That being said, what do you guys think of lynching TaskManager today?
I thought we were gonna lynch him yesterday but we didn't...
Do we have any reason to stop suspecting them now?
Processor wrote:
Can we get the Task lynch going now please?
Processor wrote:
mrjawapa wrote:
And when they flip town... we lynch you?
I don'T follow, does task flipping town indicate im scum?
In question 1 you're talking to "guys"
a) Clearly you're referring to whole Town, not just myself or Ele
b) You're asking whether we should lynch me
Do you really expect me to have a say in that?
In question 2 you're saying "we"
a) Clearly you're talking about the whole Town again, not just myself or Ele
b) Refer to point b) of question 1, again
In question 3 you're quoting Jawapa's post
Thus I assumed you're talking to him
Processor wrote:
- None of you two have answered the questions I have asked yet you expect the opposite
This statement is therefore invalid

This just proves it.

Processor wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Do you really expect me to have a say in that?
No I was replying to Jawapa.

wtf, if the question wasnt for task and ele, then why did you say that task and ele did not respond your question?

Processor · 2020-01-26 21:23:05

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

idk but for me, proc is just simply using bs reasons to get rid of task.

why would I want to get rid of task for any reason other than thinking that task is scum?

2b55b5g · 2020-01-26 21:23:35

mrjawapa wrote:

Processor wrote:
Why jawapa is suspicious
All jawapa has been doing this game is calling out mafia pairs lol.
mrjawapa wrote:
Peace/crybaby mafia team?
mrjawapa wrote:
task/crybaby/peace scum team?
mrjawapa wrote:
Onjit/task/crybaby/peace scum team?
mrjawapa wrote:
I'm betting norboy and task are a scum team.
mrjawapa wrote:
I'm gonna scum lean norboy and guess his partner is diff
mrjawapa wrote:
Mutant/processor scum team confirmed?
mrjawapa wrote:
I first thought task/norboy could be a mafia team.
mrjawapa wrote:
Peace, are you and processor a mafia team?
mrjawapa wrote:
2B are you and processor mafia partners
Most of those are jokes lmao

idk if proc was being too serious that he does not care if it's a joke
or he pays no effort on this so he stuff some jokes suspicions that jawapa had

Processor · 2020-01-26 21:25:17

Jawapa is suspicious because all he has been doing in this game is memeing around and making up scum pairs.

Does that seem townish to you, TNG?

mrjawapa · 2020-01-26 21:27:31

Processor wrote:

Jawapa is suspicious because all he has been doing in this game is memeing around and making up scum pairs.
Does that seem townish to you, TNG?

Misdirection

2b55b5g · 2020-01-26 21:29:34

Processor wrote:

Does that seem townish to you, TNG?

Not very.

But he has been trying to solve the game in D2.

Processor · 2020-01-26 21:38:41

Processor wrote:

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
idk but for me, proc is just simply using bs reasons to get rid of task.
why would I want to get rid of task for any reason other than thinking that task is scum?

Since this game has no PRs and no threat to mafia except for lynches, the ideal play for scum is to join whatever wagon is currently being built up.
That's pretty much exactly what Task and ele have been doing.

I know that by going around and calling these people out for their actions I am making enemies for myself, but without heated debate and pressure on people town will not win this game. I hope you can see that. If it takes my flip for you to actually take my posts seriously, so be it

mrjawapa wrote:

Misdirection

No, I'm directly replying to his statement.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Not very.
But he has been trying to solve the game in D2.

Since I posted my read list, he has been more active, that's what putting pressure on people does, and it's a good thing. It helps us solve the game.
Ele and Task have also given us plenty of more content to work on.

Also I called jawapa "sus" and that does not directly mean that I think he is 100% scum.

mutantdevle

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 21:50:55

Yo, why the **** are we lynching proc, what's wrong with y'all?

I wanted proc to speak up just as much as the rest of y'all but you're pressuring him with votes that you can't actually take back... that is just utterly stupid.

I've only skim read the thread so I don't know if he's done something particularly scummy but from what I see all he's done is respond the pressure on him and now he's getting lynch for it. Like calm down you lynch hungry lunatics.

!vote TaskManager

I feel like my hand has been forced here. I haven't actually reached my threshold of 'beyond reasonable doubt' on taskmanager that I would have liked to but in a situation of proc vs taskmanager I'm voting task 100% of the time. There is no way we should ever be lynching proc before task.

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 21:55:31

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Diff why did you keep bringing up the Norboy being inno child in D1

I feel like talking about this kind of thing has been a waste of time for a while now. If diff isn't going to form reads based on people finding norboy scummy, and no one is scum reading him for finding norboy townie, then there's legit no point talking about it.

mrjawapa

Different55 · 2020-01-26 21:57:04

Been kinda feeling that same pressure myself. Was about to place my own vote on Proc until Kira showed up with his vote report. Up until then I thought we had like. Low single digit hours left just based on how people were posting and placing their votes.

And I AM going to form reads based on Norboy. Someday. Screw it I'm already using this game to procrastinate on doing this Typography assignment, I shouldn't procrastinate on the thing I'm using to procrastinate, brb.

mutantdevle, 2b55b5g, Pqwerty

Different55 · 2020-01-26 22:07:02

Alright people who played the innogame:

Kira
Crybaby
ShadowsEdge
Slabdrill
mutantdevle
peace
NorwegianboyEE
mrjawapa
Kirby
KirbyKareem
Pqwerty
Different55
ZeldaXD

People in this game who murdered norboy in cold blood:

TaskManager
ShadowsEdge
2B TNG
Eleizibeth
Mutantdevle

Common players between these lists:

Shadow
Mutant

Although oddly enough everyone on the list except for shadow has had some suspicion cast on them for other reasons. And when it comes to shadow I forgot he was even in this game.

Since I'm generally leaning in the direction of town for Mutant this is basically a dead end as far as I'm concerned. Might keep a closer eye on Shadow now that I know they exist ig.

Pqwerty

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 22:07:42

eleizibeth wrote:

ill probably vote for proc within the next hour unless he actually answers the questions

This is an awful stance to take. 1 hour is too short of a time span to expect someone to answer you.

TaskManager, mrjawapa, 2b55b5g, Processor

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 22:12:39

mrjawapa wrote:

!vote processor
I suspect a couple people, but I'd like to see his role more than anyone elses atm.

This really feels like jawapa is just voting processor because processor has expressed suspicion of him.

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 22:15:02

BuzzerBee wrote:

Well I’m going to be working for most of the day and I suppose I’ve run out of benefit of the doubt to give, so
!vote Processor

This is also a terrible vote. He responded to the things you asked of him. You've not expressed a scum read on him. Your only issues were the 'dodging' of the questions. He stopped dodging them and you still voted. Why?

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 22:21:06

And to be honest, proc hasn't even been dodging questions.

This is what dodging a question looks like:

mutantdevle wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
I do take issues with jawapa for separate reasons though.
Would you like to explain?
When it's more relevant, yes.

Proc hasn't dodged any questions. He said some things, we asked him to explain, and he asked for clarification on what we wanted him to explain whilst also making other useful posts. The process took a while because of his slight inactivity.

Proc's response to all the pressure has made me town read him. It's just a shame so many people have prematurely voted for him.

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 22:27:54

Different55 wrote:

Up until then I thought we had like. Low single digit hours left just based on how people were posting and placing their votes.

This is exactly what bothers me. We literally have/had plenty of time to figure things out today. If this discussion with proc was taking place with 12 hours left I'd understand the votes.

eleizibeth wrote:

ill probably vote for proc within the next hour unless he actually answers the questions

eleizibeth wrote:

im leaving now so im gonna vote bc idk how much time ill have before the day ends
!vote proc

BuzzerBee wrote:

Well I’m going to be working for most of the day and I suppose I’ve run out of benefit of the doubt to give, so
!vote Processor

mrjawapa wrote:

!vote processor
I suspect a couple people, but I'd like to see his role more than anyone elses atm.

TaskManager wrote:

Proc I'm done
This is straight up **** at this point
!vote Processor

This is what forcing a game state looks like.

Processor · 2020-01-26 22:30:49

I've been very overwhelmed by the mob of 7-8 people coming at me as well.

I didn't initially explain why I thought some people were scummy (I almost always do this btw) and I understand that this has angered many of you.
This is all fair criticism and I'll try to better. That said, the criticism still fails to establish why I am likely to be scum and not a lazy townie. (What does scum gain in this setup to not explain their reasoning? I have been able to explain all my reads when prompted)

I know that TaskManager is old news and we talked about him all D1, but there's no reason to clear him of the suspicions we had on him D1.

As it stands right now, only TaskManager and I have a realistic chance to be lynched. So I ask everyone who hasn't voted to limit their vote between us two, as fragmenting the vote further won't help.

We don't have enough time to bring 6/7 of the remaining town to vote on a 3rd person.

I know this is unideal but it is what it is. Thankfully, the drama around my lynch has produced a lot of leads to work on after today. We will have a lot to process (no pun intended) next day.

2b55b5g, mutantdevle, mrjawapa

mrjawapa · 2020-01-26 22:39:50

mutantdevle wrote:

This really feels like jawapa is just voting processor because processor has expressed suspicion of him.

That's definitely not the case. If I was worried about being being suspicious of me, I'd focus on you. You seem like more of a threat to me then processor does. He's trying to get task lynched, and it sounds like he'd then move on to Ele. You've said you've address me after task.

I'm voting for processor because he won't answer the damn questions. He replied to them, but I wouldn't say he's answered them. He's tip-toeing around the questions, giving quick, vague replies, and then pointing at task asking to lynch him already. He would make a great congressman in the U.S. House of Representatives.

mutantdevle wrote:

Proc hasn't dodged any questions. He said some things, we asked him to explain, and he asked for clarification on what we wanted him to explain whilst also making other useful posts. The process took a while because of his slight inactivity.

Yes, he has. He completely avoided some of the questions for a bit. When he was pressured into replying to them, have gave a **** answer, and tried starting a wagon on taskmanager... multiple times.

Different55 wrote:

People in this game who murdered norboy in cold blood:
TaskManager
ShadowsEdge
2B TNG
Eleizibeth
Mutantdevle
Common players between these lists:
Shadow
Mutant

I don't know what you're trying to get at here. It seemed like he was actively working against the town in that game, despite everyone knowing he was town. IIRC a couple people, I may have been one of them, talked about lynching him anyway.

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 22:52:42

mrjawapa wrote:

That's definitely not the case. If I was worried about being being suspicious of me, I'd focus on you. You seem like more of a threat to me then processor does.

I don't have a bunch of discussion and votes on me that you can opportunistically jump on.

mrjawapa wrote:

He's trying to get task lynched, and it sounds like he'd then move on to Ele. You've said you've address me after task.

Which could serve as reason as to why you'd want to keep task alive and lynch the opposing wagon even if you weren't scum with task.

mrjawapa wrote:

He replied to them, but I wouldn't say he's answered them.

Then tell him what you find unsatisfactory about his answers before you vote him...

mrjawapa wrote:

Yes, he has. He completely avoided some of the questions for a bit. When he was pressured into replying to them, have gave a **** answer, and tried starting a wagon on taskmanager... multiple times.

I find nothing **** about any of the answers he has given. In some cases, he simply cites his previous answers which gives a new perspective to what he said previously.

Eg:

Processor wrote:

Both mutant and peace have shown genuine interest in solving the game
peace also voted on Task, who is my scumread at the moment

When I first read this, I read it as a simple stating of his reads. However, when proc said this WAS his explanation, I realise what he's saying is "I no longer scum read peace and mutantdevle BECAUSE they have shown interest in solving the game". What further explanation is needed than that other than asking him to point to specific posts that made him believe this? No one asked him to do that.

Processor, 2b55b5g

TaskManager · 2020-01-26 23:03:47

Processor wrote:

That said, the criticism still fails to establish why I am likely to be scum and not a lazy townie.

Why do you think that my lack of motivation to catch scum came from me being scum and not a lazy townie either????

mutantdevle · 2020-01-26 23:06:30

Also, other than apparently not avoiding questions, what has proc actually done that's scummy?

Nothing.

On the other hand, even before all of this he was at least contributing to the game. And since the pressure he has explained several of his thoughts in detail.

See this post for my points against TaskManager.

TaskManager · 2020-01-26 23:11:39

mutantdevle wrote:

Also, other than apparently not avoiding questions, what has proc actually done that's scummy?
Nothing.
On the other hand, even before all of this he was at least contributing to the game. And since the pressure he has explained several of his thoughts in detail.
See this post for my points against TaskManager.

I answered them by the way just a few posts later

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