Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 16:36:11

Crybaby wrote:

maybe the Mafia targeted the Hitman for a kill but didn't succeed? If that's true, then that's really really bad for us because they would know who that person is and try to partner up with them for their own benefit

I thought this was BS at first, but look at us now.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 16:46:14

Also, Peace is never going to kill Diff because that would be gamethrowing.

And if you be petty and lynch me and Peace before we get infected, then you still have Diff left. The only thing you could do is lynch diff, which would infect everyone, and have a fever win.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 16:58:47

*drops mic*

We're done here.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 17:14:24

Pqwerty wrote:

Also, Peace is never going to kill Diff because that would be gamethrowing.
And if you be petty and lynch me and Peace before we get infected, then you still have Diff left. The only thing you could do is lynch diff, which would infect everyone, and have a fever win.

LOL I don't think we can count peace out for gamethrowing.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 17:21:59

Yeah but it looks like town is gonna lynch him. He's L-1 and Slab's a townie. But maybe Slab won't vote; they haven't posted for a while.

I think town is just trying to pick its poison on how it wants to go down. I liked the flavor where the four non-winners game the system and win, but hey, being unlynchable has its perks.

peace · 2019-12-06 17:51:17

who the **** says im mafia? mutant literaly outed shadow or slab s possible godfathers but i doub his fac cop claim he is very cappable of bussing his teammates so he could b e bussing them now also im not sure what he 3rd mafia role could be becuase defender looks liek a reverse roleblcoker or smtg

mutantdevle · 2019-12-06 18:12:21

Pqwerty wrote:

Here is our strongarm.
Look at Norweg's win condition, because I assume it's the same as everyone else in town. The only way you win is if all non-town parties are killed, including the fever faction.
The only way you guys could kill the fever faction is through a mafia kill, because town NEVER had a killing role (Epidemiologist couldn't kill P0).
However, you are about to lynch the last mafia, and will be unable to kill the fever faction, as you can't lynch it without being infected.

You majorly misunderstand how the infection role works.

Diff gets to CHOOSE 1 person who voted for him to infect during the NIGHT. If we lynch him nobody gets infected. He won't be alive to infect anyone. He doesn't suddenly infect the entire wagon when he dies, that'd be a stupid mechanic. You choosing to let diff infect you changes nothing. You were always going to be tommorow's lynch anyway.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-06 18:15:16

Actually, it does change something. It means we can lynch diff and then let you automatically die from not infecting anyone.

peace

Different55 · 2019-12-06 19:26:59

mutantdevle wrote:

Pqwerty wrote:
Here is our strongarm.
Look at Norweg's win condition, because I assume it's the same as everyone else in town. The only way you win is if all non-town parties are killed, including the fever faction.
The only way you guys could kill the fever faction is through a mafia kill, because town NEVER had a killing role (Epidemiologist couldn't kill P0).
However, you are about to lynch the last mafia, and will be unable to kill the fever faction, as you can't lynch it without being infected.
You majorly misunderstand how the infection role works.

Diff gets to CHOOSE 1 person who voted for him to infect during the NIGHT. If we lynch him nobody gets infected. He won't be alive to infect anyone. He doesn't suddenly infect the entire wagon when he dies, that'd be a stupid mechanic. You choosing to let diff infect you changes nothing. You were always going to be tommorow's lynch anyway.

Nope, not how it works. I don't choose anyone, I have no night actions. I automatically infect everyone. N1 I sent in no night actions, tonight I'll be sending in no night actions. I'm infectious, I don't have control over the disease I just do what it tells me to.

Pqwerty is wrong about one thing though. The Epidemiologist only wasn't capable of curing me.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 19:48:32

See? If you lynch diff, you'll infect yourselves. Peace is the only person who can kill him and he's on our side.

There are no longer any viable cases where the town wins.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 20:06:08

For real, though. This would be so much easier and a more elegant win for Fever if Zelda just came back and got their free win..

mutantdevle · 2019-12-06 20:21:12

I believe Diff is either being sarcastic or is simply lying. It would be completely stupid if his role worked like that. And I'm pretty sure you know that. If you genuinely believed his role worked like that then you'd be trying to convince everyone to vote for him. If we all get infected in the process of lynching him then why don't we lynch him, all get infected, and all win together? We plan to lynch diff on the final day. So even if his role did truly work that way then we'd win anyway just as infected instead of as town.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-06 20:22:31

Pqwerty wrote:

For real, though. This would be so much easier and a more elegant win for Fever if Zelda just came back and got their free win..

There is no free win for the infected here. All your identities will be known ready for the mafia to shoot you and the town to lynch you. Zelda siding with the infected would just make the mafia win instead of the town win.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 20:28:32

mutantdevle wrote:

I believe Diff is either being sarcastic or is simply lying. It would be completely stupid if his role worked like that. And I'm pretty sure you know that. If you genuinely believed his role worked like that then you'd be trying to convince everyone to vote for him. If we all get infected in the process of lynching him then why don't we lynch him, all get infected, and all win together? We plan to lynch diff on the final day. So even if his role did truly work that way then we'd win anyway just as infected instead of as town.

I mean, we can do that if you want. I can think of a way for ALL of us currently alive to win, if you're on board. I just thought the town wanted to screw us over. It's just going to take a bit of fancy maneuvering to make sure that everyone is infected, and everyone who we lynch is also infected.

Are you on board, too? Cuz I will come up with a way for everyone to win.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-06 20:58:38

The way everyone (alive) wins is obvious regardless of how diff's role works. We just keep voting up to L-1 over however many days it takes to infect everyone. If diff's role works the way you claim it will only take 2 days and if it works the way I think it does then it will take 3. I have 3 reservations about that though:

1: I'd feel bad stealing the win from the dead town members (especially Norwegianboy).
2: We should probably lynch peace anyway since it's quite likely he'd shoot people.
3: There's a chance that only diff actually wins if everyone gets infected. That's the kind of trap I'd expect Onjit to spring on us.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 22:57:00

Devle's plan is the more correct one. I was thinking we'd infect Zelda today then split votes tomorrow.

I wasn't lying, as near as I can tell I automatically infect everyone who votes for me.

BUT if y'all managed to successfully lynch me I don't think I'd pass on anything. Otherwise with limited ways to kill me I'd be pretty OP.

We wouldn't be screwing over most of the dead townies. Pretty much just Norboy and Jawa. Kareem's hosed no matter what. Alternatively, depending on wording he might win as long as Zelda's alive even if he's no longer a brother in arms. Kirby would win if all currently living criminals repented of their crimes and found new life in the Fever. Norboy's the only dead xenophobe and Jawa hates me in particular.

Logically speaking, Fever is the only true path to happiness for the entire town and everyone in it, alive and dead.

Pqwerty

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 23:00:10

Oh I thought there was plurality, but it's nowhere in the rules.

mutantdevle wrote:

I have 3 reservations about that though:
1: I'd feel bad stealing the win from the dead town members (especially Norwegianboy).
2: We should probably lynch peace anyway since it's quite likely he'd shoot people.
3: There's a chance that only diff actually wins if everyone gets infected. That's the kind of trap I'd expect Onjit to spring on us.

In response to 1, there's no viable scenario whatsoever where the town wins. Fever is the only possible win at this point, so even though town tried, it's still not possible.

In response to 2, let's have peace get infected today. If you don't trust me either, I can get infected today, too. If we're letting Diff live today, it has to be me and Peace who get infected, otherwise we'll have a majority infection before everyone gets infected. The next day, we'll lynch across me, Diff, and peace, and then end the day early. If peace wants to go around shooting people, then we just lynch him today.

In response to 3, in #889, Diff offers Zelda a way out. I don't think Diff would be so cruel as to offer Zelda a way to win if it only meant he won.

mutantdevle · 2019-12-06 23:24:23

Town can certainly still win. If Slabdrill wakes up and votes peace we win, it's as simple as that.

But, if the rest of the town are down for becoming infected, I guess I'm for it. Though I'd still feel bad about jawapa and norwegianboy then not winning.

For 3, I doubt diff would know. I fully expect the infected role PM to tell us we win if everyone gets infected. But, it could be a bastard mechanic and Onjit certainly is capable of it. It's the perfect thing to do to punish us for using this exploit. If diff had claimed day 1 what his role is we could have all been infected and all won (presuming everyone would agree to it). I suspect there's a counter to that and I fear it's that only Diff would win if the infected does.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 23:29:52

Win con says Fever must be majority. Others can be alive, but the majority must be infected. You'd have to ask peace what the infected wincon is but I doubt there'd be a difference.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 23:30:33

Well, I guess we ask Peace what the role does then, he's the only one who got it.

Peace, does infected win with the fever faction, or just Patient 0?

mutantdevle · 2019-12-06 23:30:41

When you say it must be a majority, do you mean as soon as there is a majority the faction wins and the game is over?

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 23:31:01

ninja'd

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 23:31:33

Yes Mutant, as soon as they get a majority. Just like mafia's wincon.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 23:32:31

mutantdevle wrote:

When you say it must be a majority, do you mean as soon as there is a majority the faction wins and the game is over?

My faction wins when there's a majority. The game ends when someone wins. Makes sense to me.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-06 23:34:18

Plus, only having Diff win would screw over people who took their infection seriously and actually tried to infect people.

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