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#451 2019-10-20 22:17:54
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
Maybe you guys are a pair of masons
I.e: Kira could actually be an investigative role OR you two are a pair of masons
Also, based on past games, Kira is the kind of player that would play around with words and state something as a fact about someone's role/alignment without knowing for sure
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#452 2019-10-20 22:19:31
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
Also, based on past games, Kira is the kind of player that would play around with words and state something as a fact about someone's role/alignment without knowing for sure
So that could be neither a cop nor a mason
Also if Kira is the actual cop, why would he ask to be lynched? He despised Norboy for sacrficing himself as a doctor in French Revo, why would he pull off something similar?
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#453 2019-10-20 22:19:49
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
Huh. So he did.
I had no idea, his vote had no influence on me since I wasn't aware of it til just now lol
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#454 2019-10-20 22:27:14
Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
TaskManager wrote:Maybe you guys are a pair of masons
I.e: Kira could actually be an investigative role OR you two are a pair of masons
Also, based on past games, Kira is the kind of player that would play around with words and state something as a fact about someone's role/alignment without knowing for sure
I'm not a mason.
Also if Kira is the actual cop, why would he ask to be lynched?
I don't think he ever asked to be lynched. There was a couple times I thought he was hoping to be lynched... but I get what you're saying.
It validates his claims. And since he's been a highly suspected person, we can look closer at who has voted for him.
Huh. So he did.
I had no idea, his vote had no influence on me since I wasn't aware of it til just now lol
What do you think about kira being investigator?
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#455 2019-10-20 22:28:39
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
I don't think he ever asked to be lynched.
https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … 19#p765019
The post that you linked in yours
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#456 2019-10-20 22:29:20
Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
mrjawapa wrote:I don't think he ever asked to be lynched.
https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … 19#p765019
The post that you linked in yours
Not asking to be lynched. But yes, I see what you mean.
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#457 2019-10-20 22:29:21
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#458 2019-10-20 22:34:46
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#460 2019-10-21 00:05:26
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
NoNK wrote:Not sure why we're all speculating on who is a PR pretty sure that's the job of the mafia?
Because we shouldnt be lynching PRs...
Then in a discussion about who we *should* lynch it seems like PR speculation is the opposite of what we want.
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#461 2019-10-21 00:40:39
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
Vote Norboy
I will claim, I am not a PR. I am switching my vote to Norboy because he hasn’t really done anything to defend himself, the fact he kept playing aggressive even while being attacked shows that he is most likely scum.
Like think about it, if you were getting attacked as a town member, would you attack that person back or counter by defending yourself and then attacking?
I would, and pretty much anyone would go for option 2. Norboy felt in danger, therefore he called me out as a “filthy liar” instead of defending himself.
Same case for Daneeko, even after getting hit by many other users, he refuses entirely to defend himself and instead he adopts a rather aggressive pose making fun of whoever is trying to go at him with his jokes. I don’t like it.
I’m going to keep my vote on Norboy from now on, unless you can make me change my mind and I really doubt that.
PS: Jawapa, when I said that you are town, I meant it. I was on the verge of being lynched and if by any chance I was lynched, it would’ve given you a certain bump in your credibility saying that you are Green because I strongly believe that you are town. The fact you voted me, then reconsidered is a very towny move, just like NONK.
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#462 2019-10-21 00:48:01
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#464 2019-10-21 02:45:23
Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
I would expect the scum team to try to position themselves as the seemingly most helpful members of the town and try to lean us on the direction they want, basic manipulation tactics. I believe Norwegianboy tries to set up the town psychologically with reverse-psychology thinking. It’s alright when another player, when attempting to understand the reasoning behind your posts, takes into account reverse psychology (“but would he REALLY do that?”) but when you do it YOURSELF about the motivations of your own behaviour it certainly looks like you’re conditioning the town’s thinking, and not in a good way.
Examples of this behaviour:
“Kira don't be so simple-minded. While i did indeed raise suspicion on Peace, that doesn't implicate me as the villain here.” and “Wouldn't it be a **** strategy if me and NoNK was on the same scumteam and we'd both risk our lives on voting someone that we know will flip green?”
I also don’t like how confident Norboy and NoNK are of eachother’s townishness, and even more so how confident NoNK was about Kira being mafia. He said “Kira is mafia”, no “may” or “could be”, Kira is mafia. Norwegianboy suddenly dropping all his charges against Different55 is also suspicious as if he was trying to backpedal on his aggressive behaviour when he is being called out for it. NoNK and Norboy also fit this description of trying to position themselves as town leaders and as being the most interested on solving the game.
I have been reading the thread over and over for quite a few hours and I didn’t come to much else conclusive regarding anyone else. Daneeko does have that sheep behaviour Jawapa described, he just seems to follow the people who he thinks are town leaders (which only reinforces what I said previously). Kira is doing typical Kira things. Shadows is perhaps my most trusted player right now, because his behaviour aligns well with the previous games where he was town, not compromising on much, but different to when he was mafia in TFR, because there he actually pushed on voting.
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#465 2019-10-21 04:13:23
Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
I think norboy is the most suspicious. If there's nothing that changes my mind, I'll vote tomorrow morning (~12h). (Not voting right now because I think they're L-2?)
Quick reads, mainly based off intuition rather than concrete analysis (higher = towner):
Onjit - Acting basically how I remember them in previous games where they're town. Not that I actually remember how they are when maf.
Zelda - While very inactive, their last post is very good (and matches what I think; it's very hard to figure anything out when you don't know who knows who). The inactivity also means that I can put less credit on their not having anything suspicious, but until they do I'll keep them here.
Shadows - I find most of their posts agreeable. They're really only down this far because I learned to keep my guard up.
Diff - If norboy is maf I think they're pretty well in the green. I find it hard to really read what people mean...
Task - Generally helpful, with a lack of anything I'd consider suspicious.
Jawapa - Had a few questionable things earlier on, but I think they're doing a bit better now. No strong read either way.
NoNK - I don't have any particularly strong read here.
Kira - As before, I don't trust the **** excuse. I'm not too familiar with kira's playstyle, but from what I can tell they're just following the wave.
Daneeko - I don't think being new is a good defense to playing bad. It is, however an excuse I can accept just a little.
Norboy - A bunch of points have been brought up against them. If I needed to say one specifically, it'd be that they never answered onjit's "what do we gain by voting diff" question. I agree with what shadows and zelda have said against them too, though.
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#467 2019-10-21 07:22:30
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
!unvote
I don't have full reason to trust Norwegian's claim yet, but I'd rather not push a lynch on them if they're possibly a power role.
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#472 2019-10-21 12:48:05
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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]
Tfr?
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