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#1 2019-02-03 02:01:25

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be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

for a lot of the very hard worlds (pf/tnt) the staff times are awful because none of the staff actually ran the world. if the times were to be allowed to be made by a non-staff member willing to set the time the times would be far less bad.


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#2 2019-02-03 02:33:43

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

Slabdrill wrote:

for a lot of the very hard worlds (pf/tnt) the staff times are awful because none of the staff actually ran the world. if the times were to be allowed to be made by a non-staff member willing to set the time the times would be far less bad.

I don't think that would really work since they might pick someone who does it almost perfect and then nobody is gonna be able to get it.


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#3 2019-02-03 02:43:25

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

mikelolsuperman wrote:
Slabdrill wrote:

for a lot of the very hard worlds (pf/tnt) the staff times are awful because none of the staff actually ran the world. if the times were to be allowed to be made by a non-staff member willing to set the time the times would be far less bad.

I don't think that would really work since they might pick someone who does it almost perfect and then nobody is gonna be able to get it.

many of the staff times are already very difficult. kirby had >50 hours into their egg quest 2 run, for example. they don't care that that's almost impossible to beat if you're not orangecrix; they only seem to care "oh that was the best time a staff member got on this world" whether that's a time that takes 50 attempts to beat or one that takes 2.


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#4 2019-02-03 03:14:29

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

Oh, in that case I don't mind


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#5 2019-02-03 11:12:11

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

staff times are made to be difficult kirby for exmaple is a very pro splayer and can do some world spretty fast for the issue slab is poiting out is i would check all the times that are faster then rainbow and check what time is a good time for it not the fastes of all nto the slowest of all ofc maby an average or just the middle time of all rainbows in tehe world and there hsould be an compersation for poeple who got the staff time agfter changing the rinabows because they coudl be sisapointed an mad because they took effort in these hard worlds


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#6 2019-02-03 11:31:18

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

Why does everybody say you’ll get discouraged bla bla bla, literally nobody really cares but it’s annoying that the times are practically impossible unless you’re this particular player. Half of the times are almost impossible to beat as egg quest 2 was explained. You’d kinda have to know every strat, glitch, the route which shouldn’t be the case for time trials. Should have to be straightforward on what to do

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#7 2019-02-04 02:40:19

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

Joeyc wrote:

Why does everybody say you’ll get discouraged bla bla bla, literally nobody really cares but it’s annoying that the times are practically impossible unless you’re this particular player. Half of the times are almost impossible to beat as egg quest 2 was explained. You’d kinda have to know every strat, glitch, the route which shouldn’t be the case for time trials. Should have to be straightforward on what to do

I believe good speedrun times should actually require knowing what you're doing. In my opinion, the "good" staff times (egg quest 2, arris dome) are the difficulty of what the top tier medal should be, and the rest are too easy. (need for steed, the flighty slighty, and a few others could be improved 15%+ easily, but requires using speedrun skips; while for some the world is actually just bad)

Now for the bronze-gold (I believe most of the platinums are far too easy as well. Any world that has a greater distance gold-plat than plat-staff (which is a lot of them) should have a lower plat.) medals, sure; but most of the times there are already high enough you can do it without a specialized route.


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#8 2019-02-04 07:47:18

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

silver is in most cases mean tto do the nroormal route as fast a spossible and you get atkleast silver


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#9 2019-02-05 00:26:51

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

peace wrote:

silver is in most cases mean tto do the nroormal route as fast a spossible and you get atkleast silver

that's rainbow in almost every world tbh because rainbow medals are without major skips unless you're playing slipslide ride or tutorial 3 or mount uongeatsil and a few others but i haven't ran enough worlds to know


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#10 2022-05-30 15:03:11, last edited by wjyg (2022-05-30 15:13:34)

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

Slabdrill wrote:
Joeyc wrote:

Why does everybody say you’ll get discouraged bla bla bla, literally nobody really cares but it’s annoying that the times are practically impossible unless you’re this particular player. Half of the times are almost impossible to beat as egg quest 2 was explained. You’d kinda have to know every strat, glitch, the route which shouldn’t be the case for time trials. Should have to be straightforward on what to do

I believe good speedrun times should actually require knowing what you're doing. In my opinion, the "good" staff times (egg quest 2, arris dome) are the difficulty of what the top tier medal should be, and the rest are too easy. (need for steed, the flighty slighty, and a few others could be improved 15%+ easily, but requires using speedrun skips; while for some the world is actually just bad)

Now for the bronze-gold (I believe most of the platinums are far too easy as well. Any world that has a greater distance gold-plat than plat-staff (which is a lot of them) should have a lower plat.) medals, sure; but most of the times there are already high enough you can do it without a specialized route.

HOW are we going to beat egg quest II rainbow??? im not a bad player[i beat 4 worst campaign tier and still doing ip], but even my 5 checkpoint perfect run [take like a hours and cheated a bit with god mode] is just only 2 second faster than rainbow
just HOW??? (sorry for gravedigging but it just really... beat it should unlock another insane campaign or campaign that even harder than it!)
before the rainbow time it have a gem hunt, and the rainbow score is EVEN BETTER THAN GEM HUNT WINNER... JUST THINK ABOUT HOW HARD IT CAN BE
if THAT is a good score for rainbow, maybe make rainbow score = WR and auto update it will make you happy, it just crazy as that
i make a practice world for that, but after i tested the time, im sure it going to be useless...
i think a good rainbow score is extreme, but not insane, and not high insane


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#11 2022-05-30 22:47:23

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

wjyg wrote:
Slabdrill wrote:
Joeyc wrote:

Why does everybody say you’ll get discouraged bla bla bla, literally nobody really cares but it’s annoying that the times are practically impossible unless you’re this particular player. Half of the times are almost impossible to beat as egg quest 2 was explained. You’d kinda have to know every strat, glitch, the route which shouldn’t be the case for time trials. Should have to be straightforward on what to do

I believe good speedrun times should actually require knowing what you're doing. In my opinion, the "good" staff times (egg quest 2, arris dome) are the difficulty of what the top tier medal should be, and the rest are too easy. (need for steed, the flighty slighty, and a few others could be improved 15%+ easily, but requires using speedrun skips; while for some the world is actually just bad)

Now for the bronze-gold (I believe most of the platinums are far too easy as well. Any world that has a greater distance gold-plat than plat-staff (which is a lot of them) should have a lower plat.) medals, sure; but most of the times there are already high enough you can do it without a specialized route.

HOW are we going to beat egg quest II rainbow??? im not a bad player[i beat 4 worst campaign tier and still doing ip], but even my 5 checkpoint perfect run [take like a hours and cheated a bit with god mode] is just only 2 second faster than rainbow
just HOW??? (sorry for gravedigging but it just really... beat it should unlock another insane campaign or campaign that even harder than it!)
before the rainbow time it have a gem hunt, and the rainbow score is EVEN BETTER THAN GEM HUNT WINNER... JUST THINK ABOUT HOW HARD IT CAN BE
if THAT is a good score for rainbow, maybe make rainbow score = WR and auto update it will make you happy, it just crazy as that
i make a practice world for that, but after i tested the time, im sure it going to be useless...
i think a good rainbow score is extreme, but not insane, and not high insane

i believe in you turewjyg, beat my boring egg quest 2 rainbow or riot

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#12 2022-05-31 10:51:18

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Re: be willing to use non-staff times for campaign rainbow medals

The problem taking this suggestion to EEO is that it has a "Definitive Release" which predicts that "No future changes will be made". So if you want this to get through, you'll have to do some convincing that the "definitive version which we improved but we'll NEVER improve further" may, in fact, be improved further.

In this case, it may also be considered a breach of authenticity because it's modifying the original experience as opposed to enhancements made for convenience, like adding draw sizes or removing the chat bar.


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#13 2022-06-02 16:44:16

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