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#1 2018-04-11 04:50:42

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REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

WORST ADDITIONS TO THE GAME PLEASE REVERT THEM BACK IN MY DAY LEVELS MADE BY NOOBS WERE PLAYABLE NOW THEY ARE NOT

NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY AN AWFUL WORLD WITH INVIS PORTALS BUT EVERYONE WANTS TO MAKE ONE


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#2 2018-04-11 06:41:19

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

hi

those have been here for ages

where have you been

why was this topic not made like 3 years ago

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#3 2018-04-11 06:51:12

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

imo thet are for secret paths they may not be removed breaks worlds and they are used much somtimes an blue portal is just ugly so you put an invissble on an dput a bg behind it


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#4 2018-04-11 10:23:25

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

"Please give me less tools to build with"


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#5 2018-04-11 11:08:31

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Don’t you dare remove invisible portals, they are so useful.


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#6 2018-04-11 11:48:19

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Gotta replicate invisible portals with bots then.

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#7 2018-04-11 12:17:35

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

I agree that invisible blocks, arrows are bad. But invisible portals are ok.

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#8 2018-04-11 12:23:54

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Gosha wrote:

I agree that invisible blocks, arrows are bad. But invisible portals are ok.

i disagree invisible stuff is so ussrfull like jsecre passage ways and no ugly arrows/blocks but stil wanting tto us eblokcs great if you want to use booster but dont want them to show sad invisible boosters arent added


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#9 2018-04-11 12:29:39

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

peace wrote:
Gosha wrote:

I agree that invisible blocks, arrows are bad. But invisible portals are ok.

i disagree invisible stuff is so ussrfull like jsecre passage ways and no ugly arrows/blocks but stil wanting tto us eblokcs great if you want to use booster but dont want them to show sad invisible boosters arent added

*i disagree invisible stuff is so useful like secret passage ways and no ugly arrows/blocks but still wanting to use blocks great if you want to use booster but don't want them to show sad invisible boosters aren't added*
i fixed the grammar, but still didn't understand.

Good level design doesn't come from invisible blocks. You can hide secret passages even without invisible arrows, and it will better.

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#10 2018-04-11 12:37:36

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Gosha wrote:
peace wrote:
Gosha wrote:

I agree that invisible blocks, arrows are bad. But invisible portals are ok.

i disagree invisible stuff is so ussrfull like jsecre passage ways and no ugly arrows/blocks but stil wanting tto us eblokcs great if you want to use booster but dont want them to show sad invisible boosters arent added

*i disagree invisible stuff is so useful like secret passage ways and no ugly arrows/blocks but still wanting to use blocks great if you want to use booster but don't want them to show sad invisible boosters aren't added*
i fixed the grammar, but still didn't understand.

Good level design doesn't come from invisible blocks. You can hide secret passages even without invisible arrows, and it will better.

tell me how if there is a wall that secretly can be climbed but you dont want people to see you use invisble stuff


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#11 2018-04-11 13:08:23

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

My solution

Remove:
- invisible arrows
- secret blocks

Keep:
- invisible portals
- invisible blocks

Add:
- vision blockers


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#12 2018-04-11 14:00:45

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Invisible arrows can be good for some levels but since most people are bad at level design invisible arrows detract more from the game than they add.


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#13 2018-04-11 14:22:30

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Let's review these things.

Invisible Gravity
  + Invisible gravity can be used for levels that are heavily based on art, if world makers don't want to "ruin" their artwork (this refers to worlds, not minimaps)
  ~ Invisible gravity is used by several to create secret passages. However, they can be replaced.
  – We have a zero-gravity effect already. They replace the hard work of placing invisible gravity dots all over an area.
  – Some players use invisible arrows to deceive or trick other players. That shouldn't happen; it's pure evil if you think about it. Unless your world is a comedy of errors or a carnival full of magic yet foolish tricks.
  * They may be removed.

Invisible Portals
  + Refer to Point 1 of Invisible Gravity.
  + From my experience, invisible portals are more widely used for secret passages, rather than invisible gravity.
  – Refer to Point 4 of Invisible Gravity.
  * They don't need to be removed.

Invisible Blocks
  + Refer to Point 2 of Invisible Portals.
  + Invisible blocks are used to make background blocks act as foreground blocks.
  – Refer to Point 4 of Invisible Gravity.
  * They don't need to be removed.

Secret Blocks
  + Refer to Point 2 of Invisible Portals.
  + They are kind of useful when you want to hide something (e.g. the super secret edit code, or a secret message).
  – Refer to Point 4 of Invisible Gravity.
  * The don't need to be removed.


TL;DR

Please note that all these are of my point of view and not of the entirety of the forums.


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#14 2018-04-11 14:25:52

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Actually, I think there's a simple solution to invisible gravity being abused by noobs, just make it cost A LOT of energy or as a reward for a medium or hard difficulty campaign. That way, less noobs are going to be abusing invisible gravity in their worlds.


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#15 2018-04-11 14:56:31

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Nubs can and will ruin everything.  Loom at 98% of every map ever made with keys made ever.... But then look at what we can do with them.  As long as backgeounds exist, invisible arrows can be represented.  I think that invisble blocks should stay invisible (Secret blocks are kinda 'meh' imo.  Invisible blocks and arrows are perfect for horror maps (invisble arrows could be used to represent an invisoble force, as an example).


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#16 2018-04-11 15:04:01

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

> ee is kids 2d blocky sandbox
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Koto wrote:

horror maps

I dislike invisible blocks. Secret blocks are fine

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#17 2018-04-11 15:11:27

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

i like the invisible stuff but i hate when the blocks and arrows are used incompentently, it makes it hard to complete some levels because people dont know how to use them properly.


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#18 2018-04-11 15:53:23

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You guys want broke Cepipris Frustration right.


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#19 2018-04-11 15:55:20, last edited by peace (2018-04-11 15:55:57)

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

sevret blocks and invisible blocks are the same they are in the same pack  and the ppoint of all this invisible stuff is to hide things while its still there


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#20 2018-04-11 16:00:44

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

peace wrote:

sevret blocks and invisible blocks are the same they are in the same pack  and the ppoint of all this invisible stuff is to hide things while its still there

wooted the post because i can actually understand it

also what do you think about invisible arrow abuse?


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#21 2018-04-11 20:31:01

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

John wrote:
peace wrote:

sevret blocks and invisible blocks are the same they are in the same pack  and the ppoint of all this invisible stuff is to hide things while its still there

wooted the post because i can actually understand it

also what do you think about invisible arrow abuse?

why abuse? they are used for what they made for being invisisble and hide things that you may not see


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#22 2018-04-11 21:07:21

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Maybe invisible blocks (not the black-with-gray invisible blocks but the dotted-gray-outline invisible blocks) could appear while you're touching them, the way invisible gravity does


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#23 2018-04-11 21:12:07

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Re: REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Invisible arrows are good when you don't want to litter your world with them.  I recall ipwner using them for his Super Mario Galaxy worlds, which woulda looked really ugly with normal visible arrows.

I also used them in my contest world for a sideways elevator section where you "flew" across a small canyon.  Some people had trouble with this part and the vanish delay also helped them find their way to the end.

Anything can be misused.  And I don't think blocks will be removed from the game either, just in case someone wants to make a hookjump.


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#24 2018-04-11 21:14:19

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People abuse coins, lol


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#25 2018-04-11 21:23:44

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remove ladders, smilies have no arms, so this is bad game design


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