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#1 2017-12-15 01:55:10

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is it nudity if you are invisible?

your clothes are see-through so that makes you nude
what do you think?


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#2 2017-12-15 04:12:15

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

I think this is a GOOD debate and that it needs to be discussed.
i saw no cause nobody can see it


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#3 2017-12-15 04:34:40, last edited by hummerz5 (2017-12-15 04:46:52)

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

consider, for a moment, the trouble of Invisible Man (HG Well's?) -- this poor gent is entirely invisible, but only his personal self. His clothing does not change. We also meet this gent in February, so you can see his predicament! He cannot just run around as a coat and pants with no hands or feet or face! So he bundles up quite severely. Conversely, if he wants to be invisible, he must be naked.

With this chilling example, I would say that it still is indeed nudity when you consider the thermal implications of not wearing clothing (visible or not) during winter months.

Furthermore, he is almost obligated to stick to the strict rules of fully clothed skin or none. So logically when outdoors he needs all (footprints). When indoors, he needs none.

On that note, also consider the psychological aspect. Knowing that one is nude and in an environment of unknowing persons requires an extra step of vigilance beyond simply attempting to stay "hidden" and unobtrusive. To my knowledge, nude people don't like running into other people. What if those other people simply don't know?

also, should we move this to Off-topic? It's not really a great topic to debate but still interesting to me.

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#4 2017-12-15 04:41:36

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

hummerz5 wrote:

consider, for a moment, the trouble of Invisible Man (Ralph Ellison's)

lol wrong one, I think you mean H. G. Wells

I don't see how you could make an argument that you aren't naked if you aren't wearing anything. Being visible is not part of the definition of nudity. I guess if it were an accusation of public nudity and indecent exposure, the defendant might say that they caused no harm because nobody saw them. I don't think this would actually work as a defense because it is just too creepy and inappropriate to not convict.


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#5 2017-12-15 08:28:28

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

Evilbunny wrote:
hummerz5 wrote:

consider, for a moment, the trouble of Invisible Man (Ralph Ellison's)

lol wrong one, I think you mean H. G. Wells

I don't see how you could make an argument that you aren't naked if you aren't wearing anything. Being visible is not part of the definition of nudity. I guess if it were an accusation of public nudity and indecent exposure, the defendant might say that they caused no harm because nobody saw them. I don't think this would actually work as a defense because it is just too creepy and inappropriate to not convict.

but it isn't nudity if people can't see my stuff


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#6 2017-12-15 13:48:46

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

Pessimist would say yes, optimists say no

#7 2017-12-15 15:33:20

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

Nudity - "the state of being without clothing or covering of any kind."

Whether or not you can be seen is irrelevant. If a tree falls in a forest...


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#8 2017-12-15 16:19:36, last edited by Anatoly (2017-12-15 16:19:52)

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

Tomahawk wrote:

Nudity - "the state of being without clothing or covering of any kind."

Whether or not you can be seen is irrelevant. If a tree falls in a forest...

With this definition people with glasses can't be nude anymore

#9 2017-12-15 19:31:43

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

AnatolyEE wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:

Nudity - "the state of being without clothing or covering of any kind."

Whether or not you can be seen is irrelevant. If a tree falls in a forest...

With this definition people with glasses can't be nude anymore

Unless they take their glasses off.


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#10 2017-12-15 19:36:06

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

AnatolyEE wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:

Nudity - "the state of being without clothing or covering of any kind."

Whether or not you can be seen is irrelevant. If a tree falls in a forest...

With this definition people with glasses can't be nude anymore

Does not wearing glasses make you blind (cause you imply peeps can't see anymore without them)?
And if you're blind? For non-blind people it's still nudity? Right?

Idk I consider any kind of nudity nudity since nudity is nudity no matter in what way lol


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#11 2017-12-15 20:10:35

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Re: is it nudity if you are invisible?

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/nudity
Definition: An unclothed human figure, especially an artistic representation. The condition of being unclothed.

By that definiton, as long you have a full set of clothes you're not nude.

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