The Internet Is Being KILLED by the Government Soon!

Nebula · 2017-11-28 18:46:57

The FCC is planning to roll back net neutrality regulations that have been in place for years, meaning the cable companies and internet service providers can effectively ruin the internet as we know it. It will allow ISPs to charge extra to access certain sites, throttle sites and services, even charge more money for different devices you connect with. The only thing we can do is contact your congressional representatives and tell them to pass legislation forcing the FCC to back down.

LukeM · 2017-11-28 18:57:47

Good time to live outside the US

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MartenM · 2017-11-28 19:11:06

LukeM wrote:

Good time to live outside the US

What happens in the US can happen here too. Also, a lot of internet traffic goes through the united states so it will be very intrestring to see what happens to that if this gets through.

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N1KF · 2017-11-28 19:11:41

The topic title is kind of clickbaity. Based on what you wrote, the U.S. government is letting it get killed, not killing it.

Even though this is a horrible thing to be happening, I hope it encourages people (including me) to turn away from their internet addictions...

MartenM · 2017-11-28 19:15:16

N1KF wrote:

The topic title is kind of clickbaity. Based on what you wrote, the U.S. government is letting it get killed, not killing it.
Even though this is a horrible thing to be happening, I hope it encourages people (including me) to turn away from their internet addictions...

It won't. You will pay more for internet and still have an addiction.
Get some help if you are addicted. Killing the internet is not the solution.

LukeM · 2017-11-28 19:22:43

MartenM wrote:

LukeM wrote:
Good time to live outside the US
What happens in the US can happen here too. Also, a lot of internet traffic goes through the united states so it will be very intrestring to see what happens to that if this gets through.

I dont think it will affect us directly, as I think the companies who will / are able to charge more only own the cables going directly to peoples houses so cant slow down internet connections that are routed through the US, only ones coming from or going to places that purchase their internet (and big companies wouldn't have to do this)

It would probably cause our governments to at least consider doing the same though, which is scary

TaskManager · 2017-11-28 19:35:38

yeah no. they may do all of that **** but sooner or later enough people WILL get butthurt to turn all of this into a massive **** with riots and all that crap

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N1KF · 2017-11-28 19:35:40

MartenM wrote:

N1KF wrote:
Even though this is a horrible thing to be happening, I hope it encourages people (including me) to turn away from their internet addictions...
It won't. You will pay more for internet and still have an addiction.

Do you have a source that it will improve not a single person's addiction?

Get some help if you are addicted. Killing the internet is not the solution.

I agree.

Emma333 · 2017-11-28 20:09:00

MartenM wrote:

What happens in the US can happen here too.

Eh no. EU actually cares about rights of citizens and democracy in most European countries actually works. In The Netherlands and many other countries referenda would protect net neutrality.

mutantdevle · 2017-11-28 21:12:29

Emma333 wrote:

MartenM wrote:
What happens in the US can happen here too.
Eh no. EU actually cares about rights of citizens and democracy in most European countries actually works. In The Netherlands and many other countries referenda would protect net neutrality.

Any democratic system that results in a 2 party system (either now or eventually) is not a working democracy in my opinion. But I get your point, I don’t think net neutrality is much of a problem for most first world countries.

LukeM

XxAtillaxX · 2017-11-28 22:03:56

I hope there will be justice brought down upon these blatantly corrupt criminal politicians who rely on the revolving door technique to gain office by being bought by corporations and special interests.
Ajit Pai deserves a prison sentence, not a comfy position at Verizon after he collectively screws over the average American workers in order for them to gain commercial profit and his own personal gain.

I've seen quite a few punchable faces, but his ascends into battering-ram territory.

▼Seriously.

N1KF · 2017-11-28 22:12:11

XxAtillaxX wrote:

I've seen quite a few punchable faces, but his ascends into battering-ram territory.

Why would you want to punch somebody?

Luka504 · 2017-11-28 22:53:13

N1KF wrote:

XxAtillaxX wrote:
I've seen quite a few punchable faces, but his ascends into battering-ram territory.
Why would you want to punch somebody?

Did you even read the rest his post?
Since it's clear you haven't.

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Pingohits · 2017-11-28 23:06:02

Luka504 wrote:

N1KF wrote:
XxAtillaxX wrote:
I've seen quite a few punchable faces, but his ascends into battering-ram territory.
Why would you want to punch somebody?
Did you even read the rest his post?
Since it's clear you haven't.

mr nike is implying violence towards anyone, not just ajit creampai, is immoral

i would rebuke but that's a discussion for the debates sub

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Emma333 · 2017-11-28 23:14:11

Devlin wrote:

Emma333 wrote:
MartenM wrote:
What happens in the US can happen here too.
Eh no. EU actually cares about rights of citizens and democracy in most European countries actually works. In The Netherlands and many other countries referenda would protect net neutrality.
Any democratic system that results in a 2 party system (either now or eventually) is not a working democracy in my opinion. But I get your point, I don’t think net neutrality is much of a problem for most first world countries.

What makes you think our democracy results in a two party system? Right now party's are becoming smaller, its becoming even a problem because its hard to find compromises with many parties. Or am I misunderstanding you?
Not saying we have a perfect democratic system as lobbying is still a major problem. People are just more in touch with our politics because we're a smaller country

SirJosh3917 · 2017-11-28 23:40:13

lots of websites are hosted in the US so it might affect y'all too at least slightly

MartenM

MartenM · 2017-11-29 00:06:45

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

lots of websites are hosted in the US so it might affect y'all too at least slightly

Would be fun to see them moving to the EU as what is happening in Britain with companies after the brexit.
Don't think it will come that far, but you never know

hummerz5 · 2017-11-29 02:05:48

ninjasupeatsninja wrote:

lots of websites are hosted in the US so it might affect y'all too at least slightly

heaven forbid they cause internet giants to outsource what little capital they actually have here! Would it be possible for this anti-net neutrality policy only affect the consumers of the U.S.? That would only involve the smaller folk and not the bigger CDNs.

Not that I want to argue on behalf of these acts. I'm simply curious about the extent.

LukeM · 2017-11-29 09:17:21

I'm pretty sure it would only affect consumers, and possibly small providers, because providers have the money to move, or get an ISP that doesn't charge them extra, or I guess pay the extra money so it's not slowed down.

hummerz5

John · 2017-11-29 17:43:23

hopefully it doesn't come sooner than UnitEE

LukeM · 2017-11-29 23:34:05

A good video about the technicals of this just came out:

tl;dr;

Net Neutrality is usually good (as it leads to innovation, and means all companies / people are treated equally)
Sometimes useful to have filters though, e.g. to block illegal activity (ddosing, terrorist stuff etc.) or hide inappropriate content
There is also filtering by protocol, but although things like bit torrent are often used for illegal things, legal things use it too (like WoW), so its not a good way to filter
America is arguing about a small part of the legislation that enforces net neutrality, and some people are using this as an excuse to reverse it completely
Probably wont affect people outside the US for basically the same reasons as I stated in my previous posts as well as because a large number of websites use CDNs, the nearest of which will probably be based outside America anyway

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