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#1 2017-10-18 18:36:06

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Block id 1538 issue

Block id 1538 doesn't contain 3-line combinations. It contains all 4 single line positions, 6 2-line combinations and a 4-line combination, but not 3-line combinations.


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#2 2017-10-18 18:39:50

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

For those who don't know what the block with ID 1538 is, the picture frame decoration.

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#3 2017-10-18 18:46:35

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

yea, that sucks, i need 3 edges

(but imo i think this block is a failure, it allows you to create too many in-game art things without any effort. but what can be changed now..)

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#4 2017-10-18 18:49:52

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

Gosha wrote:

yea, that sucks, i need 3 edges

(but imo i think this block is a failure, it allows you to create too many in-game art things without any effort. but what can be changed now..)

How is that a problem? The more we can do with in-game art the better. Sure it looks a lot better when a lot of thought goes into making something creative out of obscure blocks, but helpful blocks like this that have a lot of variation are still useful. I've never really understood this attitude of not wanting to make things easy for people. I see no reason why people with little experience shouldn't be able to make awesome looking in-game art.


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#5 2017-10-18 19:06:14

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

Devlin wrote:
Gosha wrote:

yea, that sucks, i need 3 edges

(but imo i think this block is a failure, it allows you to create too many in-game art things without any effort. but what can be changed now..)

How is that a problem? The more we can do with in-game art the better. Sure it looks a lot better when a lot of thought goes into making something creative out of obscure blocks, but helpful blocks like this that have a lot of variation are still useful. I've never really understood this attitude of not wanting to make things easy for people. I see no reason why people with little experience shouldn't be able to make awesome looking in-game art.

I see a problem in endless amont of blocks. There are too many of them. Imo all blocks must be a master piece (of course they are not, but they should lead to it).

And when they add 11 same blocks, instead of 11 beautiful ones which could be even better in helping people to create in-game art, it makes me kinda sad

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#6 2017-10-18 19:15:32

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

Gosha wrote:

I see a problem in endless amont of blocks.

Gosha wrote:

And when they add 11 same blocks, instead of 11 beautiful ones which could be even better in helping people to create in-game art, it makes me kinda sad

I find these 2 statements fairly contradictory though the way they do that may not be directly apparent.

In my opinion, variation within blocks is more important than diversity in blocks. By that I mean I would rather have a bunch of similar looking blocks than a bunch of widely different blocks. These 11 blocks are incredibly useful. Due to the variety of shapes you can create with them, you can use them as many different things in many different types of world. Whereas other blocks only really look good in 1 particular scenario. You are basically saying you want 11 different blocks instead of 11 similar blocks. In my opinion that adds to the endless amount of garbage within the game. At least with similar looking blocks, you can use them together to make something spectacular.

This particular block has been used so many times in so many levels since it was added and is one of the most useful blocks in the game. It might not look like the most beautiful thing you have ever seen but at least it's useful. But honestly, what are you expecting from a 16x16 pixel grid?


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#7 2017-10-18 20:26:59

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

whta about 3 edge clodu deco ect


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#8 2017-10-18 21:53:24

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

Good that I don't need to rotate every single frame. EEditor does this for me when I Right Click on the block so I can choose what I want.
This is also a feature that someone requested for EE.

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#9 2017-10-20 02:44:29

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

basically this block sucks

glad we can all agree

#10 2017-10-20 06:45:39

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

capasha wrote:

Good that I don't need to rotate every single frame. EEditor does this for me when I Right Click on the block so I can choose what I want.
This is also a feature that someone requested for EE.

have you considered becoming a marketing manager


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#11 2017-10-20 08:10:07

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

zyhrllos wrote:

basically this block sucks

glad we can all agree

We don’t though... I definitely disagree and if HG’s woots mean anything then so does he. (Though I get the feeling your post was sarcastic anyway.


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#12 2017-10-20 22:01:45

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

Devlin wrote:
zyhrllos wrote:

basically this block sucks

glad we can all agree

We don’t though... I definitely disagree and if HG’s woots mean anything then so does he. (Though I get the feeling your post was sarcastic anyway.

11 morphs for another decoration made up of lines is just too much

#13 2017-10-20 22:03:20

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

zyhrllos wrote:
Devlin wrote:
zyhrllos wrote:

basically this block sucks

glad we can all agree

We don’t though... I definitely disagree and if HG’s woots mean anything then so does he. (Though I get the feeling your post was sarcastic anyway.

11 morphs for another decoration made up of lines is just too much

Then why is it one of the most used decoration blocks?


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#14 2017-10-20 22:12:44

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

Devlin wrote:
zyhrllos wrote:
Devlin wrote:
zyhrllos wrote:

basically this block sucks

glad we can all agree

We don’t though... I definitely disagree and if HG’s woots mean anything then so does he. (Though I get the feeling your post was sarcastic anyway.

11 morphs for another decoration made up of lines is just too much

Then why is it one of the most used decoration blocks?

it isnt at all?

#15 2017-10-21 10:20:54

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

zyhrllos wrote:
Devlin wrote:
zyhrllos wrote:
Devlin wrote:
zyhrllos wrote:

basically this block sucks

glad we can all agree

We don’t though... I definitely disagree and if HG’s woots mean anything then so does he. (Though I get the feeling your post was sarcastic anyway.

11 morphs for another decoration made up of lines is just too much

Then why is it one of the most used decoration blocks?

it isnt at all?

there are people who like the deco and do u want 11 seperate blocks for it? you can do mcuh with it and if you dont like it dont use it!


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thanks hg for making this much better and ty for my avatar aswell

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#16 2017-10-21 17:12:42

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

peace wrote:
zyhrllos wrote:
Devlin wrote:
zyhrllos wrote:
Devlin wrote:

We don’t though... I definitely disagree and if HG’s woots mean anything then so does he. (Though I get the feeling your post was sarcastic anyway.

11 morphs for another decoration made up of lines is just too much

Then why is it one of the most used decoration blocks?

it isnt at all?

there are people who like the deco and do u want 11 seperate blocks for it? you can do mcuh with it and if you dont like it dont use it!

ive heard this "if you don't like it don't use it" argument far too many times, and it's invalid

sure i won't use it, but i'll still see it in worlds

#17 2017-10-21 19:49:56

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Re: Block id 1538 issue

the block is a good block, i just think it shouldve been split into 3 different blocks (one side, two side adjacent, two side opposite edges/full square) to avoid needing to click 15 times


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