Mafia 12

TaskManager · 2017-07-23 17:23:20

Clearly gosha is unable to handle pressure but that is not necessarily scum indicative. He is a new player. Still, even if he flips town it is not a big loss. (Dont take it personal, my slavic buddy, but you're not very valuable for town unless you are a PR)
Meanwhile I don't like Processor's and Smitty's daring behavior.
I am going to trust Proc on this one to see how it works out.
!vote Gosha
If Gosha flips town however, we will have to look more into Proc's agressive play.

TaskManager · 2017-07-23 17:24:00

Sorry for double post but I forgot to add:
Could we have a vote count please?

hummerz5, Zumza

hummerz5 · 2017-07-23 17:25:17

maxi123 wrote:

If Gosha flips town however, we will have to look more into Proc's agressive play.

oh yeah. I guess I didn't think that far. If I've raised a big enough stink about proc then I could go along with the bandwagon with that sentiment in play

maxi123 wrote:

Could we have a vote count please?

I think he's asleep :x

Gosha · 2017-07-23 17:25:58

Devlin wrote:

Gosha wrote:
It will be so funny when you kill me and i'll turn out to be a town ?
This right here is why you are getting lynched. This is a scum action. You realise if you are town and then town wins the game in the future you still win despite being dead right? You are not helping the town right now which is a scum action and scum get lynched. If anything you are encouraging us to lynch you, which is all the more reason to lynch you.

I need to rethink all of my actions and watch logs of old games
Just like I said, I legit played mafia not more than 2 times

I guess staying silence for a while is better than saying useless stuff

SmittyW · 2017-07-23 17:27:28

maxi123 wrote:

Clearly gosha is unable to handle pressure but that is not necessarily scum indicative. He is a new player. Still, even if he flips town it is not a big loss. (Dont take it personal, my slavic buddy, but you're not very valuable for town unless you are a PR)
Meanwhile I don't like Processor's and Smitty's daring behavior.
I am going to trust Proc on this one to see how it works out.
!vote Gosha
If Gosha flips town however, we will have to look more into Proc's agressive play.

This is all I see. Your whole post is hypocritical

Different55 · 2017-07-23 17:27:47

Processor wrote:

hummerz5 wrote:
!vote zumza
I'm not a fan of you preferring a useless lynch over a decent one. I do not see how lynching Zumza is any better that Gosha.

Don't like people pushing random people for dumb reasons. Would prefer no reason over dumb reasons tbh.

Different55 wrote:

Just picking the biggest bandwagon would make it easy for the mafia to push a townlynch on d1 for a free kill

SmittyW · 2017-07-23 17:30:46

Gosha wrote:

I guess staying silence for a while is better than saying useless stuff

Yeah. Kira is the only one who hasn't spoken and he's getting off scot-free.

mutantdevle · 2017-07-23 17:32:20

SmittyW wrote:

Gosha wrote:
I guess staying silence for a while is better than saying useless stuff
Yeah. Kira is the only one who hasn't spoken and he's getting off scot-free.

Kira wrote:

!lynch N1KF ur fat

I'm not defending Kira's lack of contribution but just saying: they have spoken. (That's their only post though).

SmittyW

Processor · 2017-07-23 17:32:57

I dislike how Diff hid under the blanket of RNG to justify not voting Gosha, I also dislike Jawapa for facilitating such behavior in the first place. I need more input from both of you guys.

Hummerz I dislike how you simply went with a wagon based on RNG without justifying your vote properly, please explain why you think we should lynch zumza.

@Maxi and @Hummerz, I don't give a damn about what you think my motivations are. I do want you to vote on Gosha not because you "trust" me but because you've been convinced that he is indeed scum.

I might die this night so let me tell you that I want to discourage you from trusting anything but your own rational thinking.

"Trusting" me however, is a pretty good excuse to have on D2 in case this lynch goes bad. I want you to know that everyone who votes for Gosha is equally responsible for his death.

Kira · 2017-07-23 17:35:13

I live in the shadows, you might not see me, hear me or even notice me, but I am always watching over my citizens...

mutantdevle · 2017-07-23 17:39:45

Kira wrote:

I live in the shadows, you might not see me, hear me or even notice me, but I am always watching over my citizens...

Your citizens? What makes you think you own us? A power role?

SmittyW · 2017-07-23 17:40:35

Kira wrote:

I live in the shadows, you might not see me, hear me or even notice me, but I am always watching over my citizens...

Thanks Bruce

Different55 · 2017-07-23 17:42:19

Processor wrote:

I dislike how Diff hid under the blanket of RNG to justify not voting Gosha

It's the only option I like enough to not be manipulated. Nobody has anything to go on. It'd be easy for maf to say "hey let's just pick someone random because literally what else are we going to do? okay so let's all vote for <known citizen>" and bam free kill. or we could roll the dice ourselves instead of pointing fingers at (allegedly) random. Sounds like a better idea to me.

Zumza · 2017-07-23 17:42:43

Different55 wrote:

Processor wrote:
hummerz5 wrote:
!vote zumza
I'm not a fan of you preferring a useless lynch over a decent one. I do not see how lynching Zumza is any better that Gosha.
Don't like people pushing random people for dumb reasons. Would prefer no reason over dumb reasons tbh.
Different55 wrote:
Just picking the biggest bandwagon would make it easy for the mafia to push a townlynch on d1 for a free kill

I struggle to understand your reasons. You would prefer a no reason to a dumb reason while on the same note you're saying that we shouldn't follow the biggest bandwagons made by mafia which aim a free kill. So what is the difference for the mafia in the end between this two?

Processor · 2017-07-23 17:45:23

Is it that hard to see why I think Gosha is scum?

Kira · 2017-07-23 17:45:43

Devlin wrote:

This right here is why you are getting lynched. This is a scum action. You realise if you are town and then town wins the game in the future you still win despite being dead right? You are not helping the town right now which is a scum action and scum get lynched. If anything you are encouraging us to lynch you, which is all the more reason to lynch you.

Risky play but worth it. You denounce one of your brothers to escape the death sentence, a scummy action so to say.

Zumza · 2017-07-23 17:46:27

@Diff

Are you directly implying that Proc push on Gosha is scum motivated?
Are you implying that JaWapa is somehow a confirmed townie and he is the one who made the true dice roll?

TaskManager · 2017-07-23 17:59:47

Processor wrote:

I do want you to vote on Gosha not because you "trust" me but because you've been convinced that he is indeed scum.

how can i be 100% convinced that he is scum? this is day1 and the only scum vibes he gives me are coming from his failure to handle pressure.

Processor · 2017-07-23 18:00:40

Zumza wrote:

Are you implying that JaWapa is somehow a confirmed townie

The only way he would know that is if he were scum! I'm calling this a scumslip. LYNCH HIM!

!vote Diff

Processor · 2017-07-23 18:02:11

maxi123 wrote:

Processor wrote:
I do want you to vote on Gosha not because you "trust" me but because you've been convinced that he is indeed scum.
how can i be 100% convinced that he is scum? this is day1 and the only scum vibes he gives me are coming from his failure to handle pressure.

I want you to be convinced that it is a good idea to lynch Gosha, that it is our best option right now. If it isn't please tell me what you think is better. Of course neither you nor I can be 100% sure if someone is scum, but we will lose if we don't take our chances.

TaskManager · 2017-07-23 18:33:49

Processor wrote:

maxi123 wrote:
Processor wrote:
I do want you to vote on Gosha not because you "trust" me but because you've been convinced that he is indeed scum.
how can i be 100% convinced that he is scum? this is day1 and the only scum vibes he gives me are coming from his failure to handle pressure.
I want you to be convinced that it is a good idea to lynch Gosha, that it is our best option right now. If it isn't please tell me what you think is better. Of course neither you nor I can be 100% sure if someone is scum, but we will lose if we don't take our chances.

i cant find better options than gosha but your confidence in him being scum looks strange

Processor wrote:

Is it that hard to see why I think Gosha is scum?

uh kinda

hummerz5 · 2017-07-23 18:35:36

ok I'll bite

!vote gosha

Bimps · 2017-07-23 18:37:04

maxi123 wrote:

Bimps wrote:
RhazzleFrazzle wrote:
Haven't read my rolecard AMA
see this is a gamebreaking thing dont do this **** it's unfair and unfun
you literally did it in the past wtf
I can sense n1kf doing some sort of vendetta against me but not necessarily scum motivated
What's the possibility of neutral roles being present in this game?

yeah the last time i played maf here was over a year ago so

Bimps · 2017-07-23 18:42:19

Gosha wrote:

It will be so funny when you kill me and i'll turn out to be a town ?

i just played a game where the last 3p said this. dont pull this ****, it means nothing

hummerz5 · 2017-07-23 18:42:50

dammit I don't do the extensive writeups and technically I can't edit

so short version: I agree with maxi's above post but I guess we've created a strong rift between two folk. My biggest worry is that gosha/proc turn out to be some dynamic unexpected duo that's beyond the standard Mafia/Town standoff. As if one of these is a jester. That would suck.

if someone knows of a jester-like role they should share. otherwise I guess I'm just jumping on a different bandwagon.

I think this bandwagon is slightly different compared to the zumza one because here we have someone to answer for things anyhow

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