Why is the IRC on the header of the forum if it has uncensored swears?

N1KF · 2016-10-04 06:16:07

The rule on the forum is that you can't link to something if it has inappropriate language unless you put a disclaimer on it(?). If that's the case, why would there be a link to a chat room full of uncensored swearing with no sort of disclaimer?

XxAtillaxX · 2016-10-04 08:30:20

You could use an IRC client that has swearing censors within it. /topic

Onjit, Pingohits, Swarth100

N1KF · 2016-10-04 16:58:57

XxAtillaxX wrote:

You could use an IRC client that has swearing censors within it. /topic

That's not the point of the topic. The point of the topic is that having unmarked swearing not be allowed in forum posts and having it be allowed on an unmarked link on the top of every single page contradict each other. Your idea won't fix that, and it won't end the topic.

According to the moderators in the IRC, links to swears without any sort of warnings are allowed. Though, that brings up the question why if images with swearing in spoilers have to have warnings...

Different55 · 2016-10-04 18:37:55

N1KF wrote:

XxAtillaxX wrote:
You could use an IRC client that has swearing censors within it. /topic
That's not the point of the topic. The point of the topic is that having unmarked swearing not be allowed in forum posts and having it be allowed on an unmarked link on the top of every single page contradict each other. Your idea won't fix that, and it won't end the topic.
According to the moderators in the IRC, links to swears without any sort of warnings are allowed. Though, that brings up the question why if images with swearing in spoilers have to have warnings...

The spoiler thing is in the process of being changed.

N1KF · 2016-10-06 18:29:00

Now Zoey's implying in IRC that linking to swears isn't allowed. There should really be an official policy on this, as I'm confused...

N1KF · 2016-12-24 01:20:16

Bumping because I still want an official answer and I'm stubborn like that.

Bimps · 2016-12-24 01:24:21

because who cares

N1KF · 2016-12-24 01:29:46

Bimps wrote:

because who cares

I do. What's your point?

Bimps · 2016-12-24 01:34:57

N1KF wrote:

Bimps wrote:
because who cares
I do. What's your point?

exactly

N1KF · 2016-12-24 01:42:31

Bimps wrote:

N1KF wrote:
Bimps wrote:
because who cares
I do. What's your point?
exactly

So, your point is that nobody else should care if I care about something? Am I now the standard for which people can judge whether or not something is worth caring about?

Bimps · 2016-12-24 01:51:18

N1KF wrote:

Bimps wrote:
N1KF wrote:
Bimps wrote:
because who cares
I do. What's your point?
exactly
So, your point is that nobody else should care if I care about something? Am I now the standard for which people can judge whether or not something is worth caring about?

no

N1KF · 2016-12-24 01:51:52

Bimps wrote:

N1KF wrote:
Bimps wrote:
N1KF wrote:
Bimps wrote:
because who cares
I do. What's your point?
exactly
So, your point is that nobody else should care if I care about something? Am I now the standard for which people can judge whether or not something is worth caring about?
no

What's your point, then? It's hard to understand what you're saying through these brief posts.

Bimps · 2016-12-24 02:02:36

N1KF wrote:

Bimps wrote:
N1KF wrote:
Bimps wrote:
N1KF wrote:
I do. What's your point?
exactly
So, your point is that nobody else should care if I care about something? Am I now the standard for which people can judge whether or not something is worth caring about?
no
What's your point, then? It's hard to understand what you're saying through these brief posts.

no

Pingohits, MBlood, Evilbunny, Hostage, TaskManager, Dencc

N1KF · 2017-02-12 04:56:42

So, do we have an answer to this?

Different55 · 2017-02-12 08:54:44

At this point is "because I feel like it and I run the site" an okay answer? The chat is an outside site, we don't require the rest of the internet to follow site specific rules. EE has swearing and somehow it's also managed to keep its spot on the navbar.

Onjit, Xfrogman43, skullz17, Evilbunny, Slabdrill

Evilbunny · 2017-02-12 15:49:59

this could be avoided if we got rid of the no swearing rule

this isn't kindergarten, kids know what swear words are

Pingohits, Master1, Xfrogman43, Bimps

Bimps · 2017-02-12 20:20:55

Different55 wrote:

At this point is "because I feel like it and I run the site" an okay answer? The chat is an outside site, we don't require the rest of the internet to follow site specific rules. EE has swearing and somehow it's also managed to keep its spot on the navbar.

n1kf isnt gonna like this answer

N1KF

N1KF · 2017-02-12 21:07:45

Different55 wrote:

The chat is an outside site, we don't require the rest of the internet to follow site specific rules.

I don't have a problem with the IRC having swears; I have a problem because there's no disclaimer. On this forum, swears with disclaimer (in some cases) is allowed, while swears without disclaimers don't. Simply creating an intermission page between the IRC button to the actual IRC would be useful (as well as other information about the chat room such as a link to the rules). Not only would this suggestion keep up the consistency with the rules, but it could make the IRC easier to use for those unfamiliar with it.

EE has swearing and somehow it's also managed to keep its spot on the navbar.

I don't recall uncensored and unlabelled swearing being allowed on either the forum or the game.

Evilbunny wrote:

this could be avoided if we got rid of the no swearing rule

We don't have a rule against swearing; we just have a rule against censor evasion.

If you're suggesting we remove all the censors, I think that's a bad idea. Like 90% of swearing is unneeded. We don't need to see people referencing feces, sexual activity, and incest every argument or funpost as "sentence enhancers". Even if you still want to see that, there could be an option to disable censors under profile settings.

this isn't kindergarten, kids know what swear words are

Yeah, you're right, lots of children these days know what swear words are. When they're enabled to use swear words, they go on to swear like a sailor because it's they think it's cool. Which is exactly why I think they should be discouraged from swearing. Even if you treat swear words as if they're silly (which they are), they'll just miss the point and move onto harsher and more offensive ones. Which is exactly what they're doing.

N1KF · 2017-03-28 03:12:36

I'm going to bump this since Different still hasn't responded to my most recent reply.

Different55 · 2017-03-28 03:34:13

We got rid of the no swearing rule

We don't require disclaimers for links that link to pages that contain swearing so why would we here

N1KF · 2017-03-28 03:42:24

Different55 wrote:

We got rid of the no swearing rule
We don't require disclaimers for links that link to pages that contain swearing so why would we here

So, you would need a disclaimer if you were to embed a YouTube video, but not if you were to link to one? That seems kind of weird.

hummerz5 · 2017-03-28 03:52:21

N1KF wrote:

So, you would need a disclaimer if you were to embed a YouTube video, but not if you were to link to one? That seems kind of weird.

somewhat. I raised that issue in our previous discussion of censoring inappropriate language in the mod discussion

But, the embed is, in terms of flow, some degree closer to the user than running off to Youtube

Different55 · 2017-03-28 04:00:56

N1KF wrote:

Different55 wrote:
We got rid of the no swearing rule
We don't require disclaimers for links that link to pages that contain swearing so why would we here
So, you would need a disclaimer if you were to embed a YouTube video, but not if you were to link to one? That seems kind of weird.

embedding a video or image in our site is basically posting it on our site. Putting a link to it very clearly separates that other site from us.

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#1 2016-10-04 06:16:07

Why is the IRC on the header of the forum if it has uncensored swears?

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