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capasha

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Joined: 2015-02-21

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I get chat before the old chat.

Sometimes when I join worlds I get the old chat messages after the new message. Should it be like this?

hummerz5

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From: wait I'm not a secret mod huh

Joined: 2015-08-10

Posts: 5,854

Re: I get chat before the old chat.

Sometimes when I join worlds I get the old chat messages after the new message. Should it be like this?

http://i.imgur.com/uEyTcvZ.png

How should we fix that? Wait until all the old messages are in? How do we figure that? I mean personally I'd just make some sort of chat init that we would always receive, whether there are old chats or not... then once we receive that, we know that we're outputting non-stale chat.

or we could just like... order the chats...

edit: disclaimer: I know nothing about EE and am not a developer and you're not so I mean purely hypothetically

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Koya

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From: The island with those Brits

Joined: 2015-02-18

Posts: 6,310

Re: I get chat before the old chat.

Sometimes when I join worlds I get the old chat messages after the new message. Should it be like this?

http://i.imgur.com/uEyTcvZ.png

How should we fix that? Wait until all the old messages are in? How do we figure that? I mean personally I'd just make some sort of chat init that we would always receive, whether there are old chats or not... then once we receive that, we know that we're outputting non-stale chat.

or we could just like... order the chats...

edit: disclaimer: I know nothing about EE and am not a developer and you're not so I mean purely hypothetically

afaik say_old is recieved after init2 is sent but say can be recieved before say_old showing what happens here, it is a split second so a small holding buffer would stop this from happening - either x number of messages or y number of milliseconds passed.

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hummerz5

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From: wait I'm not a secret mod huh

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Re: I get chat before the old chat.

afaik say_old is recieved after init2 is sent but say can be recieved before say_old showing what happens here, it is a split second so a small holding buffer would stop this from happening - either x number of messages or y number of milliseconds passed.

Or perhaps not send the "say" to anyone who hasn't sent their init2 yet? I'm not sure I see where the delay could be handy

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Era

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Re: I get chat before the old chat.

pm's are not in 'say'

also... instead of trying to make this different serverside fix it clientside

hummerz5

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From: wait I'm not a secret mod huh

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Re: I get chat before the old chat.

also... instead of trying to make this different serverside fix it clientside tongue

a) ok well I halfway suggested that with "or we could just order the messages"
b) can you explain what's better about client vs server side? Given that they have power over both, which would make more sense? Does either actually have a tangible benefit?

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Era

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Re: I get chat before the old chat.

clientside does not break older bots, well ones that depend on recieving old_msg at a certain time, for most cases it is rather irrelevant though.

hummerz5

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Re: I get chat before the old chat.

clientside does not break older bots, well ones that depend on recieving old_msg at a certain time, for most cases it is rather irrelevant though.

well my idea of packaging them all together would be the only thing insofar that would perceptibly have an effect on existing tools. Existing tools shouldn't be affected

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Anatoly

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Re: I get chat before the old chat.

For me it's only PMs or system messages, nothing else (usually PMs or message from bots)

Koya

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Re: I get chat before the old chat.

pm's are not in 'say'

also... instead of trying to make this different serverside fix it clientside

Ohh, mistook that bot for another bot that feels it has to say when someone joins or leaves publicly.

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