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Processor

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Re: The Staff of EE

Basically, the gist of what happened was that Proc offered to put in a good word for Thegame to become mod, and apparently has tried to actually make Thegame a mod multiple times but failed because the rest of the staff did not agree. And in return, Proc asked Thegame to do certain things. One of those things was how Jawapa got demoted. Yes, Jawapa did sell gems, however they weren't 100,000 gems like everybody thought. Jawapa said that it was only 400, and Jawapa claims that Proc had bloated the story to make it appear as though it was 100k. Now, I don't know if I completely believe Jawapa on this, but I do believe that Proc would not just randomly suggest Thegame as a mod (he is obviously a horrible choice), and probably did ask something of thegame. I only read over the skype messages once, however, Jawapa, Ninja, and Master1 will probably tell you more accurately what happened. And after the demotion of Jawapa, proc was seen making statements that he did certain things just to get Master1 demodded. Thegame and Proc will say that we are angry just because our friend was demoted. If you know anything about us you know that we probably hate Jawapa more than anyone in the community, but are working with him on this. Why do you think that is?

You're twisting facts. Thegame approached me with evidence that Jawapa had made money by selling gems. I never asked him for these proofs or buy them from him like you suggest. He did this for his own benefit, since he probably wanted Jawapa demodded himself.
Selling 545* gems (not 400 as you claim) was something we never expected Jawapa to do, and hearing about it changed our opinion on him. This eventually caused Jawapa to be demodded.
Thegame had helped me with fixing anticheat in campaigns before (and received temporary anticheat immunity for it, and no, no one else has received such immunity) and after telling me about all this, he asked me to put my good word for him becoming Jawapa's replacement. I did, but only because I do believe he has a good sense of judgement. This was only brought up once, but the staff disagreed with me because thegame wasn't popular among the players, which I understand and agree with myself.

Now I understand the whole situation around Jawapa and the number of gems can be a bit hard to follow, so I have decided to visualize it by pasting the results of my GemTracker™:

<unnamed> 
- Income sources:
-- (unbacked) -> <unnamed>  : 10000000
- Expenses:
-- <unnamed> ->  g0d (simple1293308211562x15) : 545
-- <unnamed> ->  iqcbny10 (simple1453055304538x14) : 5280

The deleted (unnamed) account is Jawapa's. As you can see, he transferred 10 million gems into that account from the admin panel. This is probably what you are confusing with the number of gems he actually sold, which is only 545. We let Thegame keep these gems, no more gems were rewarded to thegame. Since he had paid money to a staff member, we decided to take the blame and compensate thegame. Nou agreed to this. Thegame never received any extra 2000 gems from me.

The second transfer, of 5280 gems was not Jawapa himself, but it was a hacking attempt by jesse and bgic, made weeks after the selling incident, but before being demodded. GemTracker™'s output for iqcbny proves this:

iqcbny10 (simple1453055304538x14)
- Income sources:
-- <unnamed> ->  iqcbny10 (simple1453055304538x14) : 5280
- Expenses:
-- iqcbny10 (simple1453055304538x14) ->  (unclaimed) : 220
-- iqcbny10 (simple1453055304538x14) ->  jesse (simple1290622934322x73) : 1980
-- iqcbny10 (simple1453055304538x14) ->  bgic (simple1293302716868x94) : 1540

Jawapa never noticed the missing gems, I did. Once discovered, the gems transferred to jesse and bgic were removed. The remaining gems (1760, 220 of which were stored in form of gem codes) were also removed.

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The gem laundring:

iirc: A user was hacked a few times, each time losing 880 gems, and jawapa restored their gems, but what jawapa also did was to track and remove the stolen gems from the accounts they ended up in. Jawapa handled this case properly, and this incident was not used against him when deciding to demod him.

This is unrelated to the gem selling incident and Jawapa's hacked account.

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Re: The Staff of EE

<modsnip(it's his long post pre-cleanup)>

>when u take a flash game serious enough to interrogate people over skype
but hey, at least the forums are active

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Schlog

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Re: The Staff of EE

proc nice congratulations you said basically the exact same thing master1 said on his topic only people are siding with you because you're not part of mirin squad what a smart community!!

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Re: The Staff of EE

Have the forums become DramaAlert or something? Unsubscribed.

SmittyW

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Re: The Staff of EE

proc nice congratulations you said basically the exact same thing master1 said on his topic only people are siding with you because you're not part of mirin squad what a smart community!!

But Proc didn't do anything wrong. M1 admitted his mistakes and promised to improve but Nou cut the cord. I wish M1 was still mod but it's understandable why he was let go.

Thegame

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Re: The Staff of EE

1. thegame says he laundered gems and proc knew about it, but obviously kept it a secret 2. admitting to being the one laundering the gems (It wasn't Jawapa) 3. Explains why he told us everything, he felt bad that Jawapa got such a hard ordeal from it

Lol this is truly wonderful.
1&2. Nou is aware of the gem laundering, the only thing that was confusing about that is he wasn't aware that I was the one that did this. As stated by Proc, this had nothing to do with JaWapa being demoted, THIS HAPPENED AFTER that.
3. I did feel bad, JaWapa was my friend, however he wasn't doing what he should have. It sucks get over it.

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Re: The Staff of EE

Selling 545* gems (not 400 as you claim)

Oh, may bad?

because I do believe he has a good sense of judgement.

Didn't know someone who has faked their own death -- twice -- has good judgement.

Thank you, Proc, for finally explaining the entire situation to me. It's only been ~1 year.

I actually pieced things together the other night when I was talking to thegame. He mentioned being the one who had got the gems, and after thinking about the name, I remembered what had happened.

I'm sorry, to everyone, for saying I was innocent, when I really wasn't. In my defense, I just forgot it had happened.

"likely story"
I have nothing to lose. I'm no longer a mod, I don't play the game, and my reputation has been **** on. There is absolutely nothing I could gain from lying about it. There never was.

Why was thegame given immunity for the same crime that I was demoted/banned for? That's some next level retardation.

Nou is aware of the gem laundering, the only thing that was confusing about that is he wasn't aware that I was the one that did this. As stated by Proc, this had nothing to do with JaWapa being demoted, THIS HAPPENED AFTER that.

No, it happened like days before I was demoted/banned. It was at most 4 or 5 days before.

3. I did feel bad, JaWapa was my friend

> begs for a cookie
> feels bad once he gets it

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SmittyW

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Re: The Staff of EE

You forgot that you stole?

mrjawapa

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Re: The Staff of EE

You forgot that you stole?

This is another thing. People seem to think I conspired to do it, or that it was like breaking into a bank.

I forgot because it was all done on either facebook or skype, and was weeks before all this **** came up.

But this topic isn't about that.

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Slushie

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Re: The Staff of EE

Holy **** it's a game about jumping smileys go outside

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Re: The Staff of EE

Holy **** it's a game about jumping smileys go outside

Well, that's how fandoms work. The most dedicated people will lump together.

Insanity

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Re: The Staff of EE

aite well i guess thegame was a disgusting worm and either lied or was two-faced, but oh well

we had a good run boys

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Thegame

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Re: The Staff of EE

Didn't know someone who has faked their own death -- twice -- has good judgement.

>sees hacked facebook account post
Anyone in my life at that time except you I guess knew the story behind that.

Why was thegame given immunity for the same crime that I was demoted/banned for? That's some next level retardation.

What I did bettered the game, it got holes in the system patched, and it removed someone who wasn't capable of being apart of the staff. I think we always forget, yea you sold me gems and I was begging for ****, however.....while you were selling me these gems and talking to me on Facebook you were also planning on taking over everybody edits, copying the db from player.io and planning on releasing insane amounts of info to the public. Once again, you asked the public for their forgiveness when you got demoted and pleaded not guilty. Now, you sit there and ask for it once again. So they can thank me for that, and anyone who doesn't believe can feel free to contact me for the evidence (which was already made public in your removal post). Truth

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Schlog

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Re: The Staff of EE

like insanity said, at least there was some discussion at all

also seriously this is unfair as **** can you just unban me

mrjawapa

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Re: The Staff of EE

Anyone in my life at that time except you I guess knew the story behind that.

I'm assuming you were strung out from all the drugs you were on.

What I did bettered the game, it got holes in the system patched, and it removed someone who wasn't capable of being apart of the staff.

Except, the whole laundering thing didn't help the game in any way.

you were also planning on taking over everybody edits, copying the db from player.io and planning on releasing insane amounts of info to the public.

Guess we both like to tell stories, huh?

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Tomahawk

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Re: The Staff of EE

The sane part of the forum community right now:

▼Hidden text

Stop filling the forums with hate! Get together on Skype/IRC with Processor and Nou and work things out like rational adults. This thread is cancer to read and gets you nowhere.

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Re: The Staff of EE

Get together on Skype/IRC with Processor and Nou and work things out like rational adults.

Considering that Processor is going to be gone for a week Nou is going to have a busy time.

Schlog

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Re: The Staff of EE

Skype/IRC with Processor and Nou

been there done that with nou at least

Freckleface

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Re: The Staff of EE

I think this deserves a topic of its own. The actual post can be found here.

Jawapa is a <snip>,

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▼JaWapa "stealing" website design ideas

11-20-15 22:48 <@Processor>
11-20-15 22:48 <@Processor> website design
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> you stole
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> his design
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> omg
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> "stole"
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> yes, it was stealing
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> omg
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> but great artists steal
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> listen
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> and stealing ideas isnt illegal
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> nor immoral imo
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> no, it wasn't even his ideas
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> The hide background button was
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> and the random backgroudns too
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> no sr
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> it wasn't
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> yes
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> listen
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> let me explain
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> I dont even care
11-20-15 22:49 <%JaWapa> .-.
11-20-15 22:49 <@Processor> I built up my opinion and its already too late

There is no doubt in my mind that Processor and Mylo had a little scheme going, to make me look bad. Mylo claimed that whatever was used, was his ideas, and his only. Because no one ever thought about changing the background image, right? Koya had also made a design, that used some of the features Mylo claimed as his. Nothing was ever said to Koya. Instead, hate was incited, and I was made out to be a bad person.

▼Money grubbing, community hating

11-25-2015 22:26 <@Processor> I did express my disinterest in becoming a guardian
11-25-2015 22:26 <@Processor> I never wanted to deal with the **** community
11-25-2015 22:29 <@Processor> It would have been smart to join as a guardian
11-25-2015 22:29 <@Processor> and suck his **** until he gave the game over to me
11-25-2015 22:29 <@Processor> but I couldnt see it coming
11-25-2015 22:29 <@Processor> because the game was profitable

Looks like the money was good enough to deal with the "**** community", huh?
Since the game is no longer in Shoe's hands, you're going to coerce Nou?

▼Don't question Proc, he's always right

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 05#p572105
http://mrjawapa.com/img/db01d690.png

It's not your task to question how we moderate. Topic closed.

I'm aware this instance was regarding the forums, but it has also occurred in game... many times.

▼Lying/Manipulation Pertaining to M1's demotion

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 70#p624670
http://mrjawapa.com/img/40845c5f.png

The decision to demod master1 was made a few days before the announcement actually.

> Master1 was demodded on September 20th
> Nou says decision/convo with proc was made on September 20th

Proc was talking about M1's demotion in the IRC channel, a few days before M1 was demoted. Proc said Master1 WOULD be demoted and, unfortunately, I can't find the quote. I spoke with another staff member, and they said they hadn't heard anything about M1 being demoted. Nou said he didn't even talk to Processor until the day of M1's demotion.

▼Biased moderation

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 93#p623493
http://mrjawapa.com/img/756f14fa.png

It was me actually, and it was because of all the wrong things ninja has done during the past months, not just these two instances

Excuse me? Where was this mentality when Insanity was perma-banned? OOHHHH! I forgot! In order to make me look bad, you removed his ban and claimed I didn't communicate with him very well. Even though 8 temp-bans, countless warnings, and hours of discussion/arguing had occurred.

▼Poor justification

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 11#p625811
http://mrjawapa.com/img/7ec8c1a4.png

I checked reports up to the past year and didn't find anything.

I like this defense. It's the same one you used when Ninja was asking about his ban. You kept telling him that Nou had a say in it too, so you weren't changing it. Which is funny, because that wasn't relevant to half the questions he asked.

▼Why is Proc a forum admin?

08:35 <@Diff> here let's take a look at some numbers
08:35 <@Diff> | reports | username |
08:35 <@Diff> | 5  | Processor |
08:35 <@Diff> | 22 | Bobithan |
08:35 <@Diff> | 23 | Zoey2070 |
08:35 <@Diff> | 26 | BuzzerBee |
08:35 <@Diff> | 59 | hummerz5 |
08:35 <@Diff> | 68 | Different55 |

Processor has been a mod longer than everyone but Diff, but hasn't checked even a QUARTER the amount of reports of the others.

▼Refusal to work

5-1-16 20:28 <BobRoss> Proc: all staff members are supposed to be helpful
5-1-16 20:28 <@Proc> my job isnt to be useful

But, it is...? Up to this point, you have done very little. It amazes me how you do almost nothing, but are an admin on the game/forums.

Alongside all of these points, I recently found this IRC chat log.

11:53 <@Proc> also remember that my job is to take out mods one by one
11:53 <@Proc> not to ban rule breakers
11:54 <@Proc> i just banned ninja because it would help me argumenting for m1's demod

How come everyone is saying that these dont matter because they are out of context, and when M1 got demodded his chats were out of context but everyone still thought it was the end of the world?

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Tomahawk

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Re: The Staff of EE

Skype/IRC with Processor and Nou

been there done that with nou at least

So what happened? Did he tell you to make a butthurt forum thread?

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MBlood

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Re: The Staff of EE

So this is a wild-west history where you can't trust anyone.

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Re: The Staff of EE

*Grabs Popcorn*

Schlog

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Re: The Staff of EE

GUYS THIS IS SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!! PROC NEEDS TO BE DEMODDED HE CAUSED MORE ISSUES THAN ISIS!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: The Staff of EE

Wow... it's almost sad this is what ee's come to... just a pack of angry, uncivilized wulves shrieking nonsense into the night.  o_o

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Re: The Staff of EE

I don't know what's crazier: The 2016 United States presidential election, or the 2016 Everybody Edits staff drama

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