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#1001 2016-07-06 15:02:57

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

So I'm not in a game, but I'm watching as this get 1000th reply by me... I thought to myself, as I'm a spectator.


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#1002 2016-07-06 15:53:48

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Michele wrote:

So I'm not in a game, but I'm watching as this get 1000th reply by me... I thought to myself, as I'm a spectator.

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#1003 2016-07-06 16:33:36

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

And here I was excited for some actual discussion.

Silly me.


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#1004 2016-07-06 18:11:49

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

I like it how even after death Creature says two completely unrelated statements in the same sentence and the second one is an accusation.

I think we only have 3 options for people to lynch: Zumza, Rhazz and Unau. I think we should lynch either Rhazz or Zumza today, depending on who we think is lying. I think Unau is likely to be town but you never know.

So Zumza, explain why Rhazz got a different alignment from me to you.


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#1005 2016-07-06 18:43:08

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Agreed, I think EB is more likely to be town, based solely on what Rhaz says. If hummerz is maf, then EB is definitely NOT maf, and EB says he's town. And like Rhaz said, it'd be weird to have a neutral roleblocker anyway, which is the only other explanation for EB. That means Zumza is definitely NOT town (again, assuming Rhaz isn't lying or has been tricked somehow.)

This isn't proof or anything, but Zumza saying hummerz couldn't kill could have been an attempt at covering up for him. Zumza has also lied at least once about being roleblocked, possibly he was lying about it last night too?


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#1006 2016-07-06 19:06:31

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

I'm disappointed that you would take Eb word over my actions.
I lied that I was role block just to check if Eb would jump on that and claim it. This night was the first one in which I've been role blocked. Just to make it clear again.
If the message Different55 received is same as mine I don't understand whats worrying... I couldn't made any type of night action if I was role blocked, and yet Creature's dead corp is laying at our feet.
I made my list of night actions clear and I didn't role blocked an already confirmed townie. *cough* EB *cough*
In my opinion I am a much valorous team player than others also, since I know what team expects from me and I tried to check Razz with both witch will and my will.
Maxi also wasn't scared to publicly claim that he was investigated by me. And while nobody else claims he would have investigated him, that mean I am a confirmed by legit dead townies.
So may I ask, what are even the reasons you may think I am Mafia?


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#1007 2016-07-06 19:22:39

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Evilbunny wrote:

So Zumza, explain why Razz got a different alignment from me to you.

I think the key to that answer lays in the problem of "why multiple persons got role blocked"


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#1008 2016-07-06 19:25:00

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Different55 wrote:

based solely on what Rhaz says. If hummerz is maf, then EB is definitely NOT maf, and EB says he's town. And like Rhaz said, it'd be weird to have a neutral roleblocker anyway, which is the only other explanation for EB. That means Zumza is definitely NOT town (again, assuming Rhaz isn't lying or has been tricked somehow.)

tl;dr:
hummerz is maf.
According to Rhaz, EB is not maf.
EB is unlikely to be indie.
You are not the same alignment as EB.
You never actually claimed your alignment.
You were also the last person to roleclaim, possibly so you'd know that you wouldn't claim an existing role?
You also claimed that a maf member couldn't kill.

Like none of these things are definite proof that you are scum but they don't look good.

Also did anyone else get roleblocked? The last maf is probably going to be claiming they got roleblocked the same way to serve as proof that they aren't the killer.

Zumza wrote:
Evilbunny wrote:

So Zumza, explain why Razz got a different alignment from me to you.

I think the key to that answer lays in the problem of "why multiple persons got role blocked"

Yeah but there was mass roleblocking AND a death. Unless there are two mafia left, one of those should belong to a townie.


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#1009 2016-07-06 19:43:33

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Different55 wrote:

based solely on what Rhaz says. If hummerz is maf, then EB is definitely NOT maf, and EB says he's town. And like Rhaz said, it'd be weird to have a neutral roleblocker anyway, which is the only other explanation for EB. That means Zumza is definitely NOT town (again, assuming Rhaz isn't lying or has been tricked somehow.)

Different55 wrote:

hummerz is maf.
According to Rhaz, EB is not maf.
EB is unlikely to be indie.
You are not the same alignment as EB.

We cant fully trust Razz results so whats your point here?

Different55 wrote:

You never actually claimed your alignment.
You were also the last person to role claim, possibly so you'd know that you wouldn't claim an existing role?

Im not the only one who didn't claim an alignment, whats your point here?
Im aligned with Code Users FYI.

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You also claimed that a man member couldn't kill.

I said hummerz can't kill. Did hummerz had the power to kill? No. I was right? Yes. So whats your point here?

Im sorry but the points on why I am not mafia are irrefutable to whatever Mafia would try to say.


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#1010 2016-07-06 20:20:57

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Zumza wrote:

I said hummerz can't kill. Did hummerz had the power to kill? No. I was right? Yes. So whats your point here?

Did hummerz have the power to kill? Yes, he could either kill or make someone else appear to be able to kill every night. Were you right? No.

Zumza wrote:

We cant fully trust Razz results so whats your point here?

Just because he's not 100% trustworthy doesn't mean we can just disregard what he says just in case he is maf. One of you is probably maf. But you were attacked N1 by the maf (most likely). I can basically independently confirm that as the person who (accidentally) caused you to be saved. That's basically a confirmed thing that happened.


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#1011 2016-07-06 20:22:49

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

How much experience does marco have with maf games? Is he even the kind of person who would put a parity cop in a game? Zumza's being able to tell who does and who doesn't have a killing ability seems to fit in really well with hummerz' ability to make someone else appear to be killing or not so that's pretty convincing as far as Zumza goes as well.


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#1012 2016-07-06 21:03:03

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

In my role card it says that I can check if my target possesses the ability to kill.
Somehow hummerz wasn't possessing it. Idk how possessing works inside the mafia. But maybe they have to choose somebody that will remain with it until he dies. I asked Marco, anyways but I doubt he will respond. Or even maybe all the point of my role was to find the serial killer. And Im not even capable of detecting a godfather.


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#1013 2016-07-06 21:21:41

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Razz, please comment on Creature death note.


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#1014 2016-07-06 21:35:15

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Zumza wrote:

In my role card it says that I can check if my target possesses the ability to kill.
Somehow hummerz wasn't possessing it. Idk how possessing works inside the mafia. But maybe they have to choose somebody that will remain with it until he dies. I asked Marco, anyways but I doubt he will respond. Or even maybe all the point of my role was to find the serial killer. And Im not even capable of detecting a godfather.

Looking at his role again... the way it's worded kind of make it sound like he trades his original role for a killing role on nights when he wants to kill, so perhaps the only way you'd be able to tell is if yoj cautht him in the act.


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#1015 2016-07-06 22:39:31

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

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#1016 2016-07-07 00:39:03

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Hi I'm sorry what


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#1017 2016-07-07 06:14:27

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Guys come on let's not have a repeat of yesterday. I can only talk to myself so much.


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#1018 2016-07-07 06:15:30

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

rhazz, if you don't respond in 5 minutes you are mafia


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#1019 2016-07-07 08:16:23

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Too bad. I've been too busy at work. Anyways Zumza the way Mafias work is that every member has the ability to make the Mafia's night kill, so you should have received a positive result on any Mafia member like how that same role worked in game 9. Hummerz's role has weird flavor, but it's just Framer. Sounds to me like you were defending a teammate that was potentially going in the spotlight.

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#1020 2016-07-07 12:56:48

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Hi, sorry I haven't pisted in awhile, I was traveling . Did I miss anything important?

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#1021 2016-07-07 13:21:15

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

Too bad. I've been too busy at work. Anyways Zumza the way Mafias work is that every member has the ability to make the Mafia's night kill, so you should have received a positive result on any Mafia member like how that same role worked in game 9. Hummerz's role has weird flavor, but it's just Framer. Sounds to me like you were defending a teammate that was potentially going in the spotlight.

Alright but how do you explain the events of D1 if he's maf? Kirby didn't do it, Kaleb def didn't do it. That leaves maf, unless maf decided to kill off one of their own D1 I'd say he's pretty townie.


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#1022 2016-07-07 16:27:48

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Marco answered me today to clarify. He only said that: by the time I investigated him he wasn't able to kill.

Ill ask you(Razz) one more time to comment on Creatures death note.


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#1023 2016-07-08 00:48:46

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Ok if nobody wants to talk then we should just pick between Zumza or Rhazz. I'm leaning more towards Rhazz, I feel he's lying and is trying to get Zumza lynched.


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#1024 2016-07-08 01:25:51

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

practically anyone could be considered mafia, according to their roles
1. - RhazzleFrazzle: rolefaked and used hummerz as a sacrifice
5. - Zumza: faked N1 target (heal still legit thanks to feedback), then just goes around randomly clearing people (rolefaked)
8. - Kubapolish: was instructed in mafia chat to claim early and clear 2 people, not more because that would make things hard
12. - Different55: already admitted neutral, nothing prevents him from actually being mafia
13. - Evilbunny: consort disguised as town roleblocker
14. - Luka504: use antiroleblock to secure kills
15. - Kirby: killing mafia faked as vig (if you look, no 2 kills were made in 1 night)


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#1025 2016-07-08 08:40:57

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Re: EE Mafia 1 - Game Thread [CODE USERS WIN!]

Kuba what the heck you can't just woot a post and not post yourself, you've been mission for over a week and two game days.


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