Mafia 9 Game Thread (MAFIA + MAXI WIN!!!)

TaskManager · 2016-06-09 00:56:08

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAND DIFF55 TURNS OUT TO BE THE SERIAL KILLER
IRONY (or is it? im honestly not sure how irony works)
so
there was marco's(almost sure?) kill - smitty
there was mafia(almost sure?) kill - jawapa
and there was brucekiller's kill - kirby
based on hard evidence i think i can trust marco's vigilante claim now but dude what are you doing? why you chose smittyw?
what if i told you that you dont necessarily need to use all 3 bullets in first 3 nights?

Unau

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 06:59:16

Oh
meh
geeeeeeeeewd
Kubapolish was a citizen!? Ozmzsmg

No one picked up dat phone

BUT I CALLED IT.

AlphaJon · 2016-06-09 07:30:15

You hammered in before I could make my post, and wtf 4 deaths in one night. At this rate we're going to lose on N3.
I didn't want Kubapolosh lynched either, but it's done so I won't explain on this.
Let's look at the alive players list:
3.Maxi123
4.Creature
5.Unau
8.Luka504
11.marcoantonimsantos
12.Bobithan
14.Evilbunny
15.Zumza
16.Kingfdamt6579/AlphaJon
We are 9, among which probably 3 are mafia. And with that, a Brucekiller that could potentially kill(unconfirmed) other people too.
Marco: Don't announce any more of your kills. Because should you announce a mafia, they will just roleblock or kill you while they will let you freely kill the others.
Basically either a 3v6 or a 3v1v5. The latter would mean end of game if we don't lynch every night. (Unless there are only 2 mafia)

TaskManager

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 07:31:35

Also. Look at how much i was right about!
-I knew lynching someone beacuse of lack of information was bad
-I knew there had to be Serial Killers.
-I knew Jawapa had more investigations.
-If Diff was still alive i would flipping murder him for lynching Kuba
-I was wrong about marco though. Sorry bout that.
Ok now. Being pretty much the only active person who didnt vote for Kuba, i would like to think i just confirmed myself as a citizen. Since if i was evil, i would have voted for him. Easy as that.
Ok now, the town is pretty much deep into quicksand.
I wanna lynch the people who voted for Kubapolish.
Maxi, Zumza, marco, Jawapa, Creature, Kirby, Unau and EvilBunny.
Since like, 3 people died and excluding the vigilante.
Maxi, Zumza, Creature, Unau and EvilBunneh.
You ALL followed the bandwagon without any real reasons. You all stated ,,Hes lurkin zomg,, and voted for him.
Im suspicious of Creature the most.
You are playing differently. You are very inactive and any posts you DID make dont seem like they were made by our aggresive townie Creature.
Its not like you cant be active. Wanna know why? Well i checked the last time certain lurkers came to the forums. When i kept checking yours, you WERE visiting the forums, but NOT posting in this game.
!vote Creature
With 9 alive it would take 5 people for majority.
-5 Townies
-3 Mafias
-1 Murderer
Oh great. A lylo situation.

kubapolish

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 07:37:16

Also no one vote for Creature.
I want him to defend himself first.

AlphaJon · 2016-06-09 09:30:37

!vote Creature
jk
!unvote

About the "Brucekiller", I'm willing to let him alive (at least for now), because the priority is mafia, and mostly because I think his win condition basically sums up to killing Bruce and staying alive, and I'm not even sure about the staying alive part. Or could be the in the likes of a modified Executioner+Jester from the first EE mafia game, where he has to kill Bruce then get lynched to win. (Imagine the madness if he was also a serial killer)

Luka504 wrote:

i would like to think i just confirmed myself as a citizen.

You're not in my lynch-book, but don't get your hopes too high either. Also the more confirmed someone is, the more likely he is to get mafia-targeted.

My main suspicion is on Unau. I mean, look at his posts. He's basically doing almost nothing, and just stepped in to vote on Kubapolish.
Maxi123 seem legit enough for me.
Can't tell much about Creature or Bobithan.
Evilbunny is kind of neutral in my opinion.
I'm not sure about Zumza though. He contributes, but I don't really agree with his choices.

Placing everyone on a scale:

^ Marco
|
| Maxi123, Luka                 \
|                               |
|      \ Evilbunny              | Somewhere in
|      /                        | here: Zumza
| Creature, Bobithan            /
|
| Unau
v

Aftermath: Something's wrong, because I'm getting only 3 towns out of my list (Marco, Luka, Maxi).

kubapolish

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 10:43:45

I would like people to claim roles.
Im a citizen. Now that at least i got some town cred, im gonna say the following.
The town is in a pretty bad spot.
We have 5 townies, 3 are citizens and 2 are a PR. Marco and someone else.
How do i know there is another PR? Read Bruces rolecard. ,,You wont accept help from anybody,,. That means there MUST be some protective role.
3 of them are mafias.
We also have a Serial Killer kinda role, and if he claims i promise i will let him live untill the end of the game (You arent our priority lynch anyways and you already won.)

AlphaJon · 2016-06-09 11:34:32

I'm claiming vig
Well in all seriousness my role is not worth claiming for, because it will almost certainly backfire, like it did in almost every previous game so far.

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 11:46:54

AlphaJon wrote:

I'm claiming vig
Well in all seriousness my role is not worth claiming for, because it will almost certainly backfire, like it did in almost every previous game so far.

Dude, you do indeed realize we are in a situation where if we dont lynch anyone we are screwed badly.
I need everyone to claim a role

AlphaJon · 2016-06-09 11:56:20

Luka504 wrote:

Dude, you do indeed realize we are in a situation where if we dont lynch anyone we are screwed badly.

I know that. And I'm all for lynching Unau. His behavior is the most spot on of us all.
!vote Unau

Luka504 wrote:

I need everyone to claim a role

Because claiming my role will suddenly make people consider me town instantly? If it was some kind of PR with a defensive ability like a bulletproof, ok, I'd claim, but this isn't the case.
Everyone claiming his role is not happening. At best I can see the Bruce killer claim if he's already won

TaskManager · 2016-06-09 12:59:23

Luka504 wrote:

Ok now. Being pretty much the only active person who didnt vote for Kuba, i would like to think i just confirmed myself as a citizen. Since if i was evil, i would have voted for him. Easy as that.

don't be so arrogant. a member of mafia can easily get town points by simply not jumping on a bandwagon and letting the town do the mislynch themselves. im not saying youre mafia but this sole case doesnt confirm you as town either

AlphaJon wrote:

If it was some kind of PR with a defensive ability like a bulletproof, ok, I'd claim,

lol you were BP in 1 of previous games and your claim backfired

Luka504 wrote:

I would like people to claim roles.

how is that more beneficial for town than mafia? youre only in a good spot to say that because youre a citizen(?) and your claim weighs nothing but have you thought about town PRs?
not to mention everyone can easily lie about their role

now as for my top suspects:
- unau: he has been lurking a lot and this is the dumbest bandwagon i have ever seen. but it seems more like he simply doesnt care about the game enough (smh these people and their """life""" when will they realise mafia is more important?) i dont know, if we lynch him the case might turn out as it did with kuba. i would be more willing to [policy] lynch him if town was not this deep in ****
- creature: the sudden change of behavior is noticeable, i can also see fluffposting in plenty of his posts
his behavior is completely different from the behavior in games where he flipped town
i think it is closer to his behavior in one of early (2-5) games where he was mafia but is far from identical too
he was mafia in game 8 also but im too lazy to go see and compare the behaviors rn :3

between these two i'd rather go for creature but its like 55% vs 45%, im quite unsure about creature too

Zumza · 2016-06-09 13:38:05

Lets see what Creatures says shall we?
!vote Creature

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 13:57:43

Maxi123 wrote:

not to mention everyone can easily lie about their role

Well thats the point. If everyone claims a role, whether citizen or PR, we get some extra information to go on.
Theres like 3 citizens. If 5 people claim, 2 of dem are liars.

TaskManager · 2016-06-09 14:08:47

Luka504 wrote:

Maxi123 wrote:
not to mention everyone can easily lie about their role
Well thats the point. If everyone claims a role, whether citizen or PR, we get some extra information to go on.
Theres like 3 citizens. If 5 people claim, 2 of dem are liars.

and how do you plan to detect the lie? moreover how do you know theres exactly 3 citizens?

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 14:09:52

maxi123 wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
Maxi123 wrote:
not to mention everyone can easily lie about their role
Well thats the point. If everyone claims a role, whether citizen or PR, we get some extra information to go on.
Theres like 3 citizens. If 5 people claim, 2 of dem are liars.
and how do you plan to detect the lie? moreover how do you know theres exactly 3 citizens?

Luka504 wrote:

I would like people to claim roles.
Im a citizen. Now that at least i got some town cred, im gonna say the following.
The town is in a pretty bad spot.
We have 5 townies, 3 are citizens and 2 are a PR. Marco and someone else.
How do i know there is another PR? Read Bruces rolecard. ,,You wont accept help from anybody,,. That means there MUST be some protective role.
3 of them are mafias.
We also have a Serial Killer kinda role, and if he claims i promise i will let him live untill the end of the game (You arent our priority lynch anyways and you already won.)

Who needs to read anyways

TaskManager · 2016-06-09 14:11:24

maxi123 wrote:

and how do you plan to detect the lie?

u still didnt answer this

Zumza · 2016-06-09 14:25:48

Luka why have you been so aggressive all the game?

Unau

Creature · 2016-06-09 16:12:48

I am going to claim.

I am a 1-shot Follower, I can, once per game, check what action someone used (if they used any).

I decided to follow maxi123 because I felt he was a PR seeing how more actively he was playing.

Onjit said maxi123 used a killing ability. It's not vigilante, so it has to be mafia or brucekiller.

!vote maxi123

marcoantonimsantos should shoot Unau, btw.

My opinion is:
Mafia: maxi123, Zumza and Bobithan (by PoE)
Brucekiller: Unau - Because his posts don't look commanded

Zumza · 2016-06-09 16:28:53

!vote maxi123
I already had a read on him.

TaskManager · 2016-06-09 16:38:23

Well good job, give me some time (few hours) to get on laptop and I will explain.

Creature · 2016-06-09 16:43:16

I believe maxi123 is a weaker mafia role (probably máfia goon) since he's doing the kill, so maybe we can try to take out a bigger mafia role or even the brucekiller (who I believe is Unau).

Creature · 2016-06-09 16:44:27

Unau, if your role's win condition is just getting the bruce killed and you don't need to kill us all, you may claim here and help us lynch the remaining scum. However, if we see an extra death, we're lynching you.

TaskManager · 2016-06-09 17:10:26

okay im here (took much less than few hours lol)

Creature wrote:

I believe maxi123 is a weaker mafia role (probably máfia goon) since he's doing the kill, so maybe we can try to take out a bigger mafia role or even the brucekiller (who I believe is Unau).

Creature wrote:

Unau, if your role's win condition is just getting the bruce killed and you don't need to kill us all, you may claim here and help us lynch the remaining scum. However, if we see an extra death, we're lynching you.

woah woah, youre quick at jumping to conclusions

i am the so called brucekiller.
both diff55 and myself are serial killers
but my goal was to kill bruce (i suicide if he dies by any other means)
and his goal was to prevent me from killing bruce and make bruce die by any other means. he then would become an SK and i would die, either way there would be 1 SK the whole time, just with a "replacement" when kirby dies
i have achieved my goal of killing bruce and now im just a typical SK.
you can lynch me now or you can allow me to serve town as a vigilante.
as a vig i have infinite "shots", i cant be counter-attacked by mafia or roleblocked by mafia consort
plus if you keep me alive now it will allow the town to attack 2 mafias at night simultaneously (me + marco)
in best case scenario town can win right now if we lynch a mafia at day and target 2 mafias this night

you (as in town) have the weapon in your disposal that mafia cant stop on their own now, would you really want to kick me out?

Zumza · 2016-06-09 17:16:26

Maxi123 I assume you completed your first win condition, but was is your second one?

TaskManager · 2016-06-09 17:29:16

Zumza wrote:

Maxi123 I assume you completed your first win condition, but was is your second one?

you mean "what is your second one"?
im a SK isnt it obvious?
i wont be able to achieve it anymore tho so ill just help town

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