Mafia 9 Game Thread (MAFIA + MAXI WIN!!!)

Evilbunny · 2016-06-06 21:10:10

Wait, Zumza, you think Smitty is mafia because he was trying to get himself killed?
wat

Zumza · 2016-06-06 21:12:22

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

Zumza wrote:
JaWapa wrote:
@Zumza - your post confirmed that you were trying to target smitty.
My vote confirmed that way earlier in D1.
?

I just consider him mafia. I didn't make him say anything. As he said even himself he is responsible for what happens now.
And yes I would like people agree with me, isn't it this game all about? I will go test my deduction.
I said it earlier in other mafias I want to take full responsibility of my votes and when I put a vote I stick to it.

@Evilbunny why do you think only you can use reverse psychology?

Zumza · 2016-06-06 21:14:28

*And yes I would like people agree with me, isn't it this game all about? Testing your deductions.

Different55 · 2016-06-06 21:28:44

Zumza wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Reading back through the topic, I'm a little suspicious of Zumza, Kirby, Kuba, and Luka.
Zumza has hardly contributed to the game at all. Seriously, his posts are like 80% funposting. I mean there's a lot of it going around this game but Zumza here's pretty much always been in the middle of it. He's also been acting really sketchy all D2, especially around Smitty. It's obvious that he's fishing for something, but he doesn't seem in a hurry to say what. I think it's safe to say that he has a power role, and that he used it on Smitty. I have no idea why, I definitely think AlphaJon was right when he said that Smitty is a citizen who was trying to act as a meat shield for marco yesterday. Either that or he's a jester. Nothing else makes sense the way he was basically trying to get himself killed yesterday.
I think just 10 of 25 posts are irrelevant. That is 100 * 10 / 25 which is 40%. You put double 80%?

I didn't actually count, I was just saying that a lot of your posts seem unhelpful.

As for SmittyW, he is the person I want lynched. *the end

He's either mafia (in which case claiming vig would be harmless no matter what, but doesn't really make sense since it would set the town against you once they found out), a jester (makes sense), or a totally vanilla citizen who's trying to be a meat shield (makes sense, and apparently this wouldn't be the first time he's done it).

And if you really want to know my power role is: my logic.
Also if you just thought about the idea I investigated SmittyW and got a red result why not you just vote as I did?

I don't think you're an investigative role, I just think you have a power role which is why you keep fishing by asking Smitty how his night went. Where did I even suggest that you were an investigator role?

Kirby wrote:

My second vote on Jawapa wasn't really a joke despite the multiple !'s. I feel like him trying to get himself killed instead of going for a replacement is a bit suspicious.
Also as for me playing dumb, it's my first actual maf game Lol. I'm tryin. It's not playing dumb, it's just being dumb.

Or is that just what you want us to think??

Zumza wrote:

JaWapa wrote:
I'm assuming your goal is get smitty killed this game?
Believe me if I could kill we wouldn't have this conversation.

He said maybe your goal was to get smitty killed, not to kill him yourself.

Zumza wrote:

]That would make sense but I doubt we have neutral roles.

We do, I'm one of them. Don't have any abilities, yet. And I'd like to keep it that way. If I gain an ability, it's because my win condition has failed.

@Luka For the love of all that is holy please just break up your quotes instead of inserting your own words in bold.

Different55 wrote:

Luka seems generally scummy to me. He's not as inactive as the others, and he doesn't funpost as much. But he seems to be trying to push the game in his own direction. Yesterday he seemed way too dead set on JaWapa absolutely NOT being mafia.
Well sorry i didnt want to lynch a townie. My bad.
Dont get me wrong, if there was actual evidence against Jawapa i would have voted for him. But all you had was him ,,claiming mafia,, and being a ,,jerk,,. Congratz you lynched a townie for 2 reasons that dont even matter.

I'm not after you because you defended Jawapa, I defended him too.

His reasoning behind it (If JaWapa were mafia, then we would know because Onjit would step in for gamethrowing and blacklist him) seems way too flimsy. Why would Onjit step in if a mafia claimed their role? That would just be confirming the claim, which would do actual damage. It kind of reminds me about Calicara last game when she was so adamant about there being a GF role despite the entire town having thrown the idea out. That said, last game he was just as stubborn, it could be he's just that kind of guy. Even if it's just him and not scumminess, I wouldn't put too much into what he says. He was wrong about pretty much everyone he tried to have lynched last game.
Ok so you are calling me out for defending Jawapa, yet you said a few things defending him yourself Different.
Just plex.

I'm not after you because you defended Jawapa, I defended him too.

Ok so let me get this straight.
You want to lynch me for.....
Defending the Sheriff?
Yes thanks Different thats just perfect.
Lynch me im such obvious mafia.

1. You had no idea he was the sheriff yesterday so don't even try to pull that.
2. I am not after you because you defended Jawapa, I defended him too. Don't put words in my mouth and then disregard my whole post because of it.
3. I AM after you because you used flimsy reasoning to defend Jawapa when there was no evidence that he should be defended. And on top of giving flimsy reasoning, you were incredibly persistent and stubborn about it, the same way Calicara was persistent and stubborn about the existence of a GF role. She kept on pushing it long after everyone else had tossed it out, and you appeared to be doing the same thing. BUT, like I noted in my post, that doesn't say much about you, because you generally appear to act like that. Last game you were just as stubborn, so this isn't out of character for you at all. That said, just because you're stubborn doesn't mean you were right. You were wrong about all those people you wanted to lynch. I'm not saying you're scum. If anything, you're one of the least suspicious people on my list.

Zumza wrote:

JaWapa wrote:
Zumza wrote:
JaWapa wrote:
I'm assuming your goal is get smitty killed this game?
Believe me if I could kill we wouldn't have this conversation.
!unvote
!vote zumza
You'r night result was that I'm not able to kill.
My affirmation above just confirmed you that.
The part where Im mafia is yet ambiguous for me.

Excuse me? He said he didn't get a night result, that doesn't mean that you turned up clean. If anything it means he was roleblocked and his ability failed.

Zumza · 2016-06-06 21:38:42

Different55 wrote:

Zumza wrote:
JaWapa wrote:
Zumza wrote:
JaWapa wrote:
I'm assuming your goal is get smitty killed this game?
Believe me if I could kill we wouldn't have this conversation.
!unvote
!vote zumza
You'r night result was that I'm not able to kill.
My affirmation above just confirmed you that.
The part where Im mafia is yet ambiguous for me.
Excuse me? He said he didn't get a night result, that doesn't mean that you turned up clean. If anything it means he was role blocked and his ability failed.

JaWapa wrote:

I investigated Zumza because I was torn between him and Kirby. I fell for kirby's dumb-trip at first, and didn't investigate him. I didn't get any message back from onjit, which means he either doesn't have the ability to kill, or it failed. You pick which one it is.

This is just what JaWapa told.

Different55 wrote:

Zumza wrote:
That would make sense but I doubt we have neutral roles.
We do, I'm one of them. Don't have any abilities, yet. And I'd like to keep it that way. If I gain an ability, it's because my win condition has failed.

Im still not sure if I should trust yet tho. Its no doubt i put both SmittyW and you under the same umbrella.

mrjawapa · 2016-06-06 21:39:44

!unvote

I need to reread and think about this a lil more.

Kirby · 2016-06-06 21:44:22

I'm gonna !unvote too, after reading the last couple pages jawapa doesn't seem that suspicious anymore

Zumza · 2016-06-06 21:44:52

Zumza wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Maybe this is a game where everyone's a vig.
This is something I didn't expected. Instead of saying he is not a big Different55 prefers to say that there is a possibility for everybody being an actually vig.

By your just above declaration this quote falls in statements. Things become more clearly.

Indeed now I can take the assumption of Smitty being a neutral role but that doesn't excuse him for the silence.

Different55 · 2016-06-06 21:47:25

Zumza wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Zumza wrote:
JaWapa wrote:
Zumza wrote:
Believe me if I could kill we wouldn't have this conversation.
!unvote
!vote zumza
You'r night result was that I'm not able to kill.
My affirmation above just confirmed you that.
The part where Im mafia is yet ambiguous for me.
Excuse me? He said he didn't get a night result, that doesn't mean that you turned up clean. If anything it means he was role blocked and his ability failed.
JaWapa wrote:
I investigated Zumza because I was torn between him and Kirby. I fell for kirby's dumb-trip at first, and didn't investigate him. I didn't get any message back from onjit, which means he either doesn't have the ability to kill, or it failed. You pick which one it is.
This is just what JaWapa told.

Cool, I missed that part.
@JaWapa if you didn't get a message I think it's far more likely because it's failed or Onjit forgot than because it returned negative. That just doesn't make any sense.

Different55 wrote:
Zumza wrote:
That would make sense but I doubt we have neutral roles.
We do, I'm one of them. Don't have any abilities, yet. And I'd like to keep it that way. If I gain an ability, it's because my win condition has failed.
Im still not sure if I should trust yet tho. Its no doubt i put both SmittyW and you under the same umbrella.

Hey, I could have kept my alignment to myself and kept on faking as a vanilla citizen. Just giving you a heads up that there is at least one non-mafia, non-town aligned player so you should keep your eyes and mind open for it.

Zumza

Different55 · 2016-06-06 21:50:43

Zumza wrote:

Zumza wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Maybe this is a game where everyone's a vig.
This is something I didn't expected. Instead of saying he is not a big Different55 prefers to say that there is a possibility for everybody being an actually vig.
By your just above declaration this quote falls in statements. Things become more clearly.
Indeed now I can take the assumption of Smitty being a neutral role but that doesn't excuse him for the silence.

Holy crap dude that was a joke because like 5 people claimed vig all at once.

AlphaJon, TaskManager

Zumza · 2016-06-06 21:56:40

Different55 wrote:

How many vanilla citizens are in this game?

I can start find many of your posts correlate, anyways. It doesn't depends what it was.

Luka504 · 2016-06-06 22:00:41

Oh ok different i was so wrong. Let me reword why you want to lynch me:
1. Beacuse i defended Jawapa
2. Beacuse ONE point i made regarding Jawapa was false.
3. ,,Beacuse i was beinging stubborn,,
!vote luka
Damn you caught me.
Im such a mafia.
Plz lynch me zomg im such evil.

Zumza · 2016-06-06 22:03:10

Luka504 wrote:

,,Why are you always so quiet?,,
,,Well you don't plan on murdering someone out loud don't you?,,

Just because people don't read after the lines.

Luka504 · 2016-06-06 22:05:17

Zumza wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
,,Why are you always so quiet?,,
,,Well you don't plan on murdering someone out loud don't you?,,
Just because people don't read after the lines.

That doesnt even relate to anything!
Its just a goshdarn signature i made like a month ago!

Different55 · 2016-06-06 22:05:48

Zumza wrote:

Different55 wrote:
How many vanilla citizens are in this game?
I can start find many of your posts correlate, anyways. It doesn't depends what it was.

Asking that because it seemed like there was a retardedly high number of completely powerless vanilla citizens. Every game I've played or spectated before (all 2 of them) was really heavy on power roles. Sort of. First game I got a role that basically gave me immunity from one specific scum and another that let me kill a scum if I was holding one specific item. And I had the ability to talk with one other town aligned person but they were killed pretty soon so there I was all alone with no super useful powers. I actually think I managed to stay alive in that game though.

Point is, not used to having so many vanillanubs in a game.

Zumza · 2016-06-06 22:06:51

Im going to sleep its 00:04 here and I have no idea when Ill be back tomorrow. Im not sure if Onjit will help me on this but I want to point a delegate for my vote if anything changes.
!delegate Different55

mrjawapa · 2016-06-06 22:08:18

Different55 wrote:

Onjit forgot

I messaged onjit about not getting any notes on how my NA went. He told me it means he's not guilty, or it failed.

I feel like kirby, Kuba, and Zumza are all guilty.

With Zumza I'm not real sure what he's up to. I think he may have tried to attack Smitty, but someone protected him, or healed him. Smitty needs to tell us if he knows anything.

After smitty tells us what he knows, we should decide which of these three gets lynched.

Different55 · 2016-06-06 22:09:15

Luka504 wrote:

Oh ok different i was so wrong. Let me reword why you want to lynch me:
1. Beacuse i defended Jawapa
2. Beacuse ONE point i made regarding Jawapa was false.
3. ,,Beacuse i was beinging stubborn,,
!vote luka
Damn you caught me.
Im such a mafia.
Plz lynch me zomg im such evil.

I voted for kuba and I even said you're one of the least suspicious people on my list what are you on?
#3 is absolutely correct. Every time I've seen someone being ridiculously stubborn it's either been mafia or just you. If you were anyone else, you would have been several times more suspicious and I probably would have voted for you instead. But no, you have a habit of being stubborn. So while you're not totally off my radar you're definitely on the edge.

Different55 · 2016-06-06 22:13:45

JaWapa wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Onjit forgot
I messaged onjit about not getting any notes on how my NA went. He told me it means he's not guilty, or it failed.

I feel like kirby, Kuba, and Zumza are all guilty.
With Zumza I'm not real sure what he's up to. I think he may have tried to attack Smitty, but someone protected him, or healed him. Smitty needs to tell us if he knows anything.
After smitty tells us what he knows, we should decide which of these three gets lynched.

Wow. That
kind of sucks massively. Like what a dumb way to do night action results. If that's so then I seriously doubt Smitty would know if he were attacked, healed, or anything.

But if you happen to be right and Zumza did attack smitty but smitty was saved, then that means there was an unaccounted-for kill, which is really bad.

Zumza · 2016-06-06 22:14:10

JaWapa wrote:

With Zumza I'm not real sure what he's up to. I think he may have tried to attack Smitty, but someone protected him, or healed him. Smitty needs to tell us if he knows anything.

If I were mafia why would I have wanted to kill SmittyW?

Evilbunny · 2016-06-06 22:16:02

Zumza wrote:

@Evilbunny why do you think only you can use reverse psychology?

Do you even know what that means? From what I can tell you think smitty is mafia because he lied about being vig. I asked you if that was your only reason, because that's not a very good reason.

So could I get an answer? You seem to really love dodging questions

Zumza · 2016-06-06 22:26:56

Evilbunny wrote:

Zumza wrote:
@Evilbunny why do you think only you can use reverse psychology?
Do you even know what that means? From what I can tell you think smitty is mafia because he lied about being vig. I asked you if that was your only reason, because that's not a very good reason.
So could I get an answer? You seem to really love dodging questions

It was 1 question. Sorry I just forgot to repeat the repetitive quote...

▼Reference to accusations

Zumza wrote:

SmittyW is our best lynch in my opinion.
I said it and I repeat it just go on and post arguments why Smitty isn't mafia or who is more suspicious than him.

Yes if somebody finds a better reason for anybody else I would take my vote off SmittyW. Thats exactly the reason I let Different55 my delegate.

Zumza · 2016-06-06 22:29:08

▼Second Accusation Reference

TaskManager · 2016-06-06 22:39:23

well its odd how zumza tried so hard on pushing against smittyw, possibly zumza is executor?
i doubt zumza could be mafia because mafia usually goes for the easiest target (scummiest townie) and not for the one that they tried to kill at night

Different55 · 2016-06-06 22:49:25

Zumza wrote:

▼Second Accusation Reference
Zumza wrote:
SmittyW wrote:
I can guarantee that I'm a vigilante. No hidden abilities or other bs. Cross my <3. XOXOXOXO
I really didn't expect someone to counterclaim because I assumed there was only one killing PR but marco sounds pretty serious. Either way, if marco doesn't have some back-up plan, then I'd say he's a goner. Maybe someone can protect him...
Later wrote:
SmittyW wrote:
Ya know, if you were a big and thought I was fake claiming, you could have just shot me silently. That's kinda ur job
Now I'm somewhat glad you counterclaimed so I can ask you not to waste a bullet on me. Really if someone can protect marco none of us have to die, I promise.
My theory: SmittyW decided to protect himself from any investigation and get all the heal from doctor, bodyguards so he could kill without any worries. He probably didn't even believe there was a vigilante in this game, or he actually plan somebody will counterclaim to kill him first and janitor wash his role.
"Really if someone can protect marco none of us have to die, I promise."
I don't remember SmittyW confirmed his attack on Marco.
As for Marco he proved himself for being a vigilante.
What if mafia would play poorly in a game with so much reverse psychology? Nobody would believe they're mafia.
Please, can somebody else than Smitty give arguments for not being mafia?
!vote SmittyW

idk mang that just sounds exactly like what a citizen meatshield or jester would say. "If someone can protect marco none of us have to die, I promise." To me that comes across like someone's last words/wishes. I just can't see sinister intent behind it.

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"Really if someone can protect marco none of us have to die, I promise."

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