Undertale Mafia game thread

Kaslai · 2016-05-04 00:47:58

maxi123 wrote:

Kaslai wrote:
maxi123 wrote:
clearly, kaslai is lurking intentionally
20 minutes ago he made a post in another forum game and went offline
!vote Kaslai
The metagame is real. Perhaps I just have nothing to add to the discussion?
there were 2 pages of discussion that by the way involved suspecting you and your lurking and you have nothing to add? not even voice your opinion on other players?
if you think calling that metagame will make it completely okay to lurk around then you're wrong.

Or maybe I'm at work and don't have time to read two pages of discussion...?

mrjawapa · 2016-05-04 01:11:49

Calicara wrote:

So if there was something like a framer, their ability would be rendered useless if it was time sensitive.

Is it safe to say there isn't a framer then?

TaskManager · 2016-05-04 01:17:56

Kaslai wrote:

maxi123 wrote:
Kaslai wrote:
maxi123 wrote:
clearly, kaslai is lurking intentionally
20 minutes ago he made a post in another forum game and went offline
!vote Kaslai
The metagame is real. Perhaps I just have nothing to add to the discussion?
there were 2 pages of discussion that by the way involved suspecting you and your lurking and you have nothing to add? not even voice your opinion on other players?
if you think calling that metagame will make it completely okay to lurk around then you're wrong.
Or maybe I'm at work and don't have time to read two pages of discussion...?

that makes sense but
1) you had the time to post in other forum game topic
2) if you're so much busy you could warn us ahead that you will be inactive???

Kaslai · 2016-05-04 01:52:30

maxi123 wrote:

that makes sense but
1) you had the time to post in other forum game topic
2) if you're so much busy you could warn us ahead that you will be inactive???

Having the time to spend on the forum is not the same as thinking you have the time.
Also it's not like I work 24/7... And I'm not going to announce ahead of time that I'm not going to post for the next 10 hours every single day. That would be dumb!

Evilbunny · 2016-05-04 02:37:52

Ok wow. There were two deaths last night. We weren't told who they were killed by, so I'm going to assume that there is a serial killer role.

!vote Creature

I believe jawapa's role claim. Either there is no framer role, or the framer had submitted a target before Jawapa submitted his command.

I also have something to say that I probably should have said on the first day. My role(we all have one so saying this isn't a big deal) will make me look like mafia to investigative roles. Probably better to get that out there before I get investigated because "oh my role makes me look bad, but I'm totally town guys" would be a terrible defense.

mrjawapa · 2016-05-04 02:49:26

Evilbunny wrote:

My role(we all have one so saying this isn't a big deal) will make me look like mafia to investigative roles. Probably better to get that out there before I get investigated because "oh my role makes me look bad, but I'm totally town guys" would be a terrible defense.

What.

EB... you're hiding something.

Pyromaniac · 2016-05-04 02:55:42

AAAAAAHAAA!

i KNEW that one of these games the overly aggressive person was going to be mafia! I just knew it!

!vote creature

Either way, if creature turns out to be innocent we'll know that jawapa is mafia... right?

Also- is anyone else like super suspicious of Zumza rn? That "I want to kill Jawapa no matter what" thing really rubs me the wrong way.

Pyromaniac · 2016-05-04 02:56:22

Evilbunny wrote:

Ok wow. There were two deaths last night. We weren't told who they were killed by, so I'm going to assume that there is a serial killer role.

Also- no. Their roles were connected. It said in their role cards that when one dies, so does the other.

Evilbunny · 2016-05-04 03:17:05

Pyromaniac wrote:

Evilbunny wrote:
Ok wow. There were two deaths last night. We weren't told who they were killed by, so I'm going to assume that there is a serial killer role.
Also- no. Their roles were connected. It said in their role cards that when one dies, so does the other.

oh didn't see that. reading all of rhazz's posts seems to be a problem of mine

AlphaJon · 2016-05-04 07:28:33

Why would Rhaz even give back instant feedback to anyone? There are framers, and roleblockers become useless, and it basically gives no room for changing one's mind.
"Yeah I made my kill command before you do your roleblock so he dies even if you did protect him."

Calicara, Zumza

RhazzleFrazzle · 2016-05-04 09:32:11

Vote count:

Creature:JaWapa, marcoantonimsantos, Calicara, Pyromaniac, Evilbunny

Kaslai:Maxi123

7 votes needed for majority.

realmaster42 · 2016-05-04 09:40:58

We just need 3 more votes on Creature. If he is innocent we get Jawapa for calling him genocide member, otherwhise gj Jawapa we gotta trust that dude

Onjit

AlphaJon · 2016-05-04 11:33:27

Somehow, I don't trust JaWapa's claim because of that "instant result" feedback. I don't see Rhaz making such a trivial mistake. Or that would imply that you're framer-immune(what would be the point of a framer then) AND roleblock-immune.
!vote JaWapa

Zumza

AlphaJon · 2016-05-04 11:34:39

Also notice how quickly were the votes stacked on creature compared to JaWapa

Calicara · 2016-05-04 11:51:46

AlphaJon wrote:

Somehow, I don't trust JaWapa's claim because of that "instant result" feedback. I don't see Rhaz making such a trivial mistake. Or that would imply that you're framer-immune(what would be the point of a framer then) AND roleblock-immune.
!vote JaWapa

I still suspect Creature over Jawapa, but this. Any 'instant' investigative feature renders any mafia RB'er/Deceptive useless. Why would Rhazz do something like that...

Onjit

Pyromaniac · 2016-05-04 11:53:26

It's because we actually have a role claim instead of day one suspicions

AlphaJon · 2016-05-04 11:56:43

I don't know, it just feels out of place and plain wrong.

TaskManager · 2016-05-04 12:34:35

i dont think rhaz would do a dumb mistake like that potentially disclosing presence of a framer or a roleblocker

Calicara · 2016-05-04 13:16:58

Pyromaniac wrote:

It's because we actually have a role claim instead of day one suspicions

I get it, Jawapa is a sheriff type role and that's fine and it's good we found Mafia. But to me, investigative roles should not get instant results. The whole purpose of roleblockers town/mafia and otherwise and/or Mafia deceptive is to inhibit people from doing their job. Since Jawapa did not have to wait Creature, simply, did not stand a chance.

Again, I'm glad that we found a Mafia, to me it just doesn't seem fair to them. Creature can't even give a defense, because what's the point? Unless Jawapa is using some crazy scum strategy, he's practically dead.

TaskManager · 2016-05-04 13:27:46

meh, everyone here realises that if creature flips town then jawapa can be lynched since according to jawapa himself there's most likely no framers and sacrificing 1 town for 1 mafia is a profitable deal
ill just trust him and see what happens

!vote Creature

L-1

Zumza · 2016-05-04 13:35:45

I can't agree more with AlphaJon.
I still wonder thought what role does JaWapa claim, how did he got the result: Sheriff, Lookout?
What if JaWapa waited for mafia night chat, asking the opinions of more experienced players?
Lets say JaWapa is town. It means he wanted to protect his role. Mafia would have realised he is a town investigator anyways.
So JaWapa protecting his role makes him suspicious or doesn't make sense...
Why didn't he said his role, when he was asked?
If he claims lookout thought we then know that Creature is surely mafia, unless both Creature and JaWapa demands the same attention.
But he claimed Creature couldn't be framed just because the result was instant(?!)

P.S.: I am also interested on what did the message saying that Creature is mafia is formulated.

Zumza · 2016-05-04 13:40:48

Creature(L-1)
We have enough time and is no need to end this day now.
But as I promised if hammering makes you awkward I will do it.

Onjit

Zumza · 2016-05-04 14:02:16

Pyromaniac wrote:

Also- is anyone else like super suspicious of Zumza rn? That "I want to kill Jawapa no matter what" thing really rubs me the wrong way.

I have a post that explains why he can't be trusted anymore. And also I didn't said that. I said "He had to die yesterday. [...] We can't trust him no matter what role he has.", for that very reason.
Truly, I wanted to mean: "We can't trust him no matter what role he claims to have"...
Lynching JaWapa doesn't make sense anymore anyways when theres a probability that theres a vigilante, which on enough evidence can kill him at night. In this way we can restore that lost lynch.

Pyromaniac · 2016-05-04 15:59:54

Calicara wrote:

I get it, Jawapa is a sheriff type role and that's fine and it's good we found Mafia. But to me, investigative roles should not get instant results. The whole purpose of roleblockers town/mafia and otherwise and/or Mafia deceptive is to inhibit people from doing their job. Since Jawapa did not have to wait Creature, simply, did not stand a chance.

Im confused (the motto for my life). What do you guys mean "instant results"? How is this any different than cops in other games?

Pyromaniac · 2016-05-04 16:01:37

I'm just gonna !unvote until I understand whats going on

Also- how does a cop being in the game compromise roleblockling roles?

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