Undertale Mafia game thread

TaskManager · 2016-04-27 14:52:21

hmhmmhmm well

jawapa screwed up pretty much with the bandwagon thing
then put up a bad defense
BUT
alphajon has a very warm spot while jawapa is being attacked by the mob
jawapa is still much more scummy tho

Luka504 wrote:

I propose the following: We lynch Jawapa. No need to quickhammer, considering what might pop up, but we should lynch Jawapa if we have no other leads.

that smelly smell
i find posts like that an attempt to get town cred (or whatever you call it) and make the mob follow you

Creature · 2016-04-27 15:15:06

Onjit wrote:

@Creature
what are your thoughts on my reads?

They're similar to your mafia game 6 reads, but I noticed you're raising some points rather than sheeping.

Creature · 2016-04-27 15:27:11

Currently seeing:
{AlphaJon, Zumza}
{Kaslai, Onjit}
{maxi123, SmittyW}
{Bimps, marcoantonimsantos, Pyromaniac}
{Bobithan, Evilbunny}
{Calicara, JaWapa}
{Luka504}

Legend:
Strong town reads
Townleans
Smaller townleans
Null
Worried about
Scumleans
Strong scum read

Creature · 2016-04-27 15:30:13

Luka504 wrote:

I propose the following: We lynch Jawapa. No need to quickhammer, considering what might pop up, but we should lynch Jawapa if we have no other leads.
- If he flips geno, Alpha is a confirmed innocent.
- If he flips pacifist, Alpha will be somewhat scummy.

This post worries me the most. He sounds like a scum who wants to get two mislynches in a row by saying something like "lets lynch jawapa, if he flips town, lets lynch alphajon"

Zumza, SmittyW, AlphaJon

Creature · 2016-04-27 15:36:21

Calicara has posted like two posts that sound like "hey lets not discuss like we did in mafia 7", this is not her usual play.

JaWapa leaving an empty vote worries me too, later he states the reason was because of his self-vote. I noticed he justified it was to question AlphaJon, which is a valid reason, but I am still seeing some differences in JaWapa's play.

Creature · 2016-04-27 15:39:36

I have weaker reads on Bobithan and Evilbunny, but what worries me about them is that their posts sound more likely someone trying to stay under the radar. Bobithan's posts are more of a "hey lets discuss something", but he doesn't even bring something to discuss, unlike game 7, where he expressed his opinions. Evilbunny has been posting less and most of his posts were questions, so he doesn't have to participate in the discussion.

SmittyW · 2016-04-27 16:09:31

!vote Luka504

Because of what Creature & gang said

or is that not a valid reason

if you are trying to convince me luka is bad but then I can't agree with you because it's considered sheeping then why bother trying to convince me at all

Bobithan · 2016-04-27 17:25:34

Creature I literally just posted some thoughts on a few people

Creature · 2016-04-27 17:35:49

Bobithan wrote:

Creature I literally just posted some thoughts on a few people

Yeah, I noticed that, still a bit worried though.

Bobithan · 2016-04-27 17:38:16

Fair enough; I won't use reads as a defense

Creature · 2016-04-27 17:39:49

I see fence-sitting on your reads:

Bobithan wrote:

JaWapa's random vote was weird and I still don't quite understand it, but I don't know if we're supposed to and it was just another conversation starter. I doubt as mafia he'd do something like that though, it just seems silly.

"JaWapa is acting weird, but I think that's town, however, it's just silly"

Zumza is really pushing hard against Alpha just for his interest in the game's flavor that has no bearing on the game's mechanics and is even explicitly stated to be useless. I wouldn't put it past Zumza to take advantage of a non-opportunity for a mislynch, but it might just be him being dense.

"Zumza is pushing Alpha for something stupid, but I think that's just him"

Luka's assertion on JaWapa and Alpha's relationship in the game is pretty baseless but as of now I think Luka is a slight town lean just from how he's acting.

"Luka is acting weird on JaWapa vs Alpha, but I think this is his play"

Calicara isn't usually this active in scum hunting, especially on day 1. She does seem to be helping with discussion but this is a pretty big difference from how she usually plays as town.

"Calicara plays like this, but I think she's playing different from how she plays town"

Zumza · 2016-04-27 17:42:54

Bobithan read was debatable, thats all.

Luka504 · 2016-04-27 17:57:53

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Creature wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
I propose the following: We lynch Jawapa. No need to quickhammer, considering what might pop up, but we should lynch Jawapa if we have no other leads.
- If he flips geno, Alpha is a confirmed innocent.
- If he flips pacifist, Alpha will be somewhat scummy.
This post worries me the most. He sounds like a scum who wants to get two mislynches in a row by saying something like "lets lynch jawapa, if he flips town, lets lynch alphajon"

Luka504 wrote:

@AlphaJon
If he is indeed scum, him trying to push a bandwagon on you seems like a mafia pushing for a mislynch AKA on an innocent. I highly doubt he would vote for you if you were his teammate, especcaly with the lack of evidence on you.
If he is a pacifist it could mean he thinks you are behaving differentely or odd, though it doesnt have to be. Though considering theres nothing wrong with your posts im most likely wrong.
Sorry bout dat.

Wow if you accidentaly word something ,,wrong,, you are obvs scum. (sarcasm)
I made a mistake geez.

Creature wrote:

Currently seeing:
{AlphaJon, Zumza}
{Kaslai, Onjit}
{maxi123, SmittyW}
{Bimps, marcoantonimsantos, Pyromaniac}
{Bobithan, Evilbunny}
{Calicara, JaWapa}
{Luka504}
Legend:
Strong town reads
Townleans
Smaller townleans
Null
Worried about
Scumleans
Strong scum read

Why am i on the bottom of the list?
I can understand that you might place me in a lower scumish behavior.
Also what makes calicara scummy again?

Creature wrote:

Calicara has posted like two posts that sound like "hey lets not discuss like we did in mafia 7", this is not her usual play.
JaWapa leaving an empty vote worries me too, later he states the reason was because of his self-vote. I noticed he justified it was to question AlphaJon, which is a valid reason, but I am still seeing some differences in JaWapa's play.

Defending a scum. Sure i said it myself defending is not proof of scum.....
But this isnt like you. Last two games i NEVER saw you defending anyone, and you were innocent those games.
Change in behavior. Legit.

SmittyW wrote:

!vote Luka504
Because of what Creature & gang said
or is that not a valid reason
if you are trying to convince me luka is bad but then I can't agree with you because it's considered sheeping then why bother trying to convince me at all

Gang? Creature is the only one who accused me.
Again i feel akward here. You cant agree with the fact that im ,,evil,, yet you voted for me. What?

Creature wrote:

"Luka is acting weird on JaWapa vs Alpha, but I think this is his play"

Well maybe you could know how i played if I WASNT LYNCHED ALMOST INSTANTLY in the past two games.

Honestly you people seem to be using the same tactic as previous game.
Lynching me without any real evidence. So far Jawapa is pretty scummy.
So is Creature (gonna explain deeper in a min)
SmittyW seems to be bandwagoning even though he was prety town neutral-ish pastt games.

Bobithan · 2016-04-27 18:02:35

That's because I have a deep personal fear of being wrong, so I lay out all possibilities for the smarter people to determine one way or the other. Should I reserve all my thoughts to myself in a game like this just because I haven't come to a hard conclusion? No, I'll speak my mind, and doing so doesn't require me or anybody else to definitively say whether somebody is scum or town, which is what you're suggesting here. Do you want me to make pretty colored posts of leanings or do you want me to give my thoughts on players and their possible motivations? Not to mention half of your rephrases are putting words in my mouth which I really shouldn't even bother to correct

SmittyW · 2016-04-27 18:08:06

Bobithan wrote:

That's because I have a deep personal fear of being wrong, so I lay out all possibilities for the smarter people to determine one way or the other. Should I reserve all my thoughts to myself in a game like this just because I haven't come to a hard conclusion? No, I'll speak my mind, and doing so doesn't require me or anybody else to definitively say whether somebody is scum or town, which is what you're suggesting here. Do you want me to make pretty colored posts of leanings or do you want me to give my thoughts on players and their possible motivations? Not to mention half of your rephrases are putting words in my mouth which I really shouldn't even bother to correct

Shame that it's always the same people playing mafia and you have to say the same thing every time. When will they learn?

Pyromaniac

Creature · 2016-04-27 18:19:13

Bobithan wrote:

That's because I have a deep personal fear of being wrong, so I lay out all possibilities for the smarter people to determine one way or the other. Should I reserve all my thoughts to myself in a game like this just because I haven't come to a hard conclusion? No, I'll speak my mind, and doing so doesn't require me or anybody else to definitively say whether somebody is scum or town, which is what you're suggesting here. Do you want me to make pretty colored posts of leanings or do you want me to give my thoughts on players and their possible motivations? Not to mention half of your rephrases are putting words in my mouth which I really shouldn't even bother to correct

You're allowed to share your reads the way you want, but I do recommend to state what do you think, like when you said Luka504 was a slight town-lean for you. What I did find weird is that you pointed out something scummy but then fogged it with meta, like: "this guy has posted a scummy post, but he usually posts scummy posts".

Bobithan · 2016-04-27 18:29:49

This game isn't formal enough to warrant me to construct some sort of table for you to understand where my observation and analysis lie. I'm just posting my thoughts. Not to mention, there is absolutely no harm in bringing up that a player tends to act a certain way despite alignment as you are trying to imply here.

Sorry for trying to contribute, I guess I just won't say anything next time.

Creature · 2016-04-27 18:34:39

Luka504 wrote:

Wow if you accidentaly word something ,,wrong,, you are obvs scum. (sarcasm)I made a mistake geez.

I am not scum reading you for guessing Chara is in the scum team, I am scum reading you for the way you interacted with the AlphaJon vs Jawapa.

Luka504 wrote:

Why am i on the bottom of the list?
I can understand that you might place me in a lower scumish behavior.
Also what makes calicara scummy again?

I already stated, maybe you should start reading.

I am suspecting Calicara for the way she's avoiding an argument with me, not sure if she's frustated or doesn't want to be lynched, but I am currently leaning on the latter.

Luka504 wrote:

Defending a scum. Sure i said it myself defending is not proof of scum.....
But this isnt like you. Last two games i NEVER saw you defending anyone, and you were innocent those games.
Change in behavior. Legit.

Where am I defending JaWapa? What makes you so sure JaWapa is scum? You can't say I am defending a scum out of nowhere.

Luka504 wrote:

Well maybe you could know how i played if I WASNT LYNCHED ALMOST INSTANTLY in the past two games.

Calm down then.

Creature · 2016-04-27 18:37:19

Luka504
Are you suspecting Calicara?

Calicara · 2016-04-27 18:42:55

I'm just making a marker post, I'm ridiculously sick, and I have piles of homework. My responses will be delayed but I'll get there. I'll post something later tonight.

SmittyW · 2016-04-27 18:46:51

I think it's near exam week for most people. Maybe this game should have been made about 2 weeks later

Pyromaniac

AlphaJon · 2016-04-27 19:13:34

I put everything in a spoiler for readability, because it's huuuge.

▼Hidden text

Bobithan wrote:

AlphaJon wrote:
so I guessed mafia didn't have access to the term
I would reckon they got some flavor in their quicktopic or whatever saying "eliminate the pacifists" or something along those lines, honestly, but it's a nice try anyways. I still have you on a strong town lean if not just for your seemingly careless attitude in the game, and, more importantly, your assertion that the town roles are mostly limited in use. You could just be theorizing but I'll assume you're guessing that because you have an x use town role yourself.
JaWapa's random vote was weird and I still don't quite understand it, but I don't know if we're supposed to and it was just another conversation starter. I doubt as mafia he'd do something like that though, it just seems silly.
Zumza is really pushing hard against Alpha just for his interest in the game's flavor that has no bearing on the game's mechanics and is even explicitly stated to be useless. I wouldn't put it past Zumza to take advantage of a non-opportunity for a mislynch, but it might just be him being dense.
Luka's assertion on JaWapa and Alpha's relationship in the game is pretty baseless but as of now I think Luka is a slight town lean just from how he's acting.
Calicara isn't usually this active in scum hunting, especially on day 1. She does seem to be helping with discussion but this is a pretty big difference from how she usually plays as town.
so those are my thoughts. Everybody else I don't really have an opinion on either because nothing stuck out to me or they just haven't been posting.

This post nailed it for the most part, if you ask me.

Bobithan wrote:

Zumza is really pushing hard against Alpha just for his interest in the game's flavor that has no bearing on the game's mechanics and is even explicitly stated to be useless. I wouldn't put it past Zumza to take advantage of a non-opportunity for a mislynch, but it might just be him being dense.

I have mixed feelings about this sentence, though. I think this is a misunderstanding which causes him to think of me as a rolefisher. A good part of the players tend to think there is actually a link between character and role[I may be wrong, feel free to prove it].

maxi123 wrote:

alphajon has a very warm spot while jawapa is being attacked by the mob

Why are you saying that?

maxi123 wrote:

that smelly smell
i find posts like that an attempt to get town cred (or whatever you call it) and make the mob follow you

Tbh, Luka isn't in a position to be able to lead the town or have a mob follow him. He's more of a follower type (and so am I, you will rarely see me taking the lead in any kind of stuff).

Creature wrote:

They're similar to your mafia game 6 reads

His mafia 6 play was OBVIOUSLY scummy, it's almost as if he spelled it out. Here, this is not the case. I'm still keeping an eye on him, because he does have some out of place sentences.

Creature wrote:

Calicara has posted like two posts that sound like "hey lets not discuss like we did in mafia 7", this is not her usual play.

This is more of a "don't bring back arguments from game 7, this is a new game with new roles". I'm currently failing at reading her this game though, guess my opinion on her is neutral for now.

Creature wrote:

Bobithan's posts are more of a "hey lets discuss something", but he doesn't even bring something to discuss, unlike game 7, where he expressed his opinions.

He doesn't post much, but he did make a good post, and you should pay attention to it. But I'd like to hear more!

Bobithan wrote:

I have a deep personal fear of being wrong

No. Stop that. Saying your opinion, even if wrong, is a million times better than not saying anything. Look at the people here who are barely posting. I kinda sometimes want to modkill them, but I'm not the host

Bobithan wrote:

I lay out all possibilities for the smarter people to determine one way or the other.

Mafia doesn't work this way. And communication in general either. You can't expect "the smarter ones" to do the hard job for you.

Bobithan wrote:

I'll speak my mind, and doing so doesn't require me or anybody else to definitively say whether somebody is scum or town, which is what you're suggesting here.

Keep doing this, then

-- Other stuff --
SmittyW: I'd like your opinion about who you consider scummy and towny. You were the one that succesfully read through Processor's plan last game, so I guess you have your own opinion here too.
Creature: Why did you put Kaslai in the "townleans" category? He barely posted anything. I consider him to deserve the "Null" category. Also I don't know your reasons behind Evilbunny's "worried" choice, if you agree to explain, that's be great.
Zumza: I can understand why you are scumreading me, but I consider the reasons flawed. Do you have other scumleans? You only told about me, as far as I can tell.

I may make a TL;DR if requested

Luka504 · 2016-04-27 19:20:02

Orange is the new font.

Luka504 wrote:

Wow if you accidentaly word something ,,wrong,, you are obvs scum. (sarcasm)I made a mistake geez.

I am not scum reading you for guessing Chara is in the scum team, I am scum reading you for the way you interacted with the AlphaJon vs Jawapa.
Im not talking about the Chara incident, im talking about (jawapa being a paci = alpha being scum) being wrong. Yeah that is pretty dumb.

Luka504 wrote:

Why am i on the bottom of the list?
I can understand that you might place me in a lower scumish behavior.
Also what makes calicara scummy again?

I already stated, maybe you should start reading.

I am suspecting Calicara for the way she's avoiding an argument with me, not sure if she's frustated or doesn't want to be lynched, but I am currently leaning on the latter.
And? Honestly you two seem pretty much on opposite sides. Still this doesnt seem that worthy to put her in scale 2 of ,,scumminess,,

Luka504 wrote:

Defending a scum. Sure i said it myself defending is not proof of scum.....
But this isnt like you. Last two games i NEVER saw you defending anyone, and you were innocent those games.
Change in behavior. Legit.

Where am I defending JaWapa? What makes you so sure JaWapa is scum? You can't say I am defending a scum out of nowhere.

Creature wrote:

His attack on AlphaJon was pretty weak, but it's his vote, he based off something.
I noticed he justified it was to question AlphaJon, which is a valid reason

Luka504 wrote:

Well maybe you could know how i played if I WASNT LYNCHED ALMOST INSTANTLY in the past two games.

Calm down then.
NEVAR

Creature · 2016-04-27 19:26:22

AlphaJon wrote:

Creature: Why did you put Kaslai in the "townleans" category? He barely posted anything. I consider him to deserve the "Null" category.

His early posts seemed townish, I didn't really notice his disappeance. I would move him down to smaller townleans and raise SmittyW to townleans.

Also I don't know your reasons behind Evilbunny's "worried" choice, if you agree to explain, that's be great.

I am worried most about his inactivity, his only post so far was him not understanding anything (or pretending to not). TBH he deserves the same spot as Pyromaniac and marcoantonimsantos, they don't usually flake like this.

Zumza, AlphaJon

AlphaJon · 2016-04-27 19:30:26

Luka504 wrote:

I am not scum reading you for guessing Chara is in the scum team, I am scum reading you for the way you interacted with the AlphaJon vs Jawapa.
Im not talking about the Chara incident, im talking about (jawapa being a paci = alpha being scum) being wrong. Yeah that is pretty dumb.

Well, make it more clear then. We can't guess what's in your mind. You're also kinda backtracking here.

Luka504 wrote:

And? Honestly you two seem pretty much on opposite sides. Still this doesnt seem that worthy to put her in scale 2 of ,,scumminess,,

I wouldn't put much thought into that. They are probably going to be against each other until the end game.

Luka504 wrote:

His attack on AlphaJon was pretty weak, but it's his vote, he based off something.
I noticed he justified it was to question AlphaJon, which is a valid reason

I thought this was intended for JaWapa, not you. I find it weird that you felt the need to defend yourself on this. (??)

Luka504 wrote:

Calm down then.
NEVAR

Yes you should. You're going to be lynched again if you stay aggressive. And it will be your fault.

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