Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)

Creature · 2016-04-13 18:53:23

maxi123 wrote:

Eh there's nothing more to talk about so far but im not giving away the discussion time by simply voting for a nolynch.

This is clearly a town cred aimy post.

TaskManager · 2016-04-13 18:55:05

also you could've put all that in 1 long post instead of octuple-posting... :/

Creature · 2016-04-13 18:55:14

Calicara wrote:

Processors analysis was interesting... But at this point it's still hard to say. For all we know Proc is Mafia trying to get a town lynched. I stand by my,
!vote noylynch
And I apologize for slight inactivity. I'm on a small recess from college till tuesday.

Umm what?

How "all we know"? And why are you voting nolynch instead of Processor?

Creature · 2016-04-13 18:58:26

I see maxi123 is trying to help. Leaning town, but still should take a better look.

Bobithan is doing the same, but I noticed he's trying to stay under the radar.

Creature · 2016-04-13 19:00:08

Bobithan wrote:

bah, ever since that initial BP claim I really couldn't see alpha being anything but scum. Okay maybe that's an exaggeration, but he hasn't really done anything since to win my vote over to somebody else. If there's anything we learned from his claim it wasn't anything to do with the setup but that alpha is scummy as heck
!vote AlphaJon
Day's almost over folks. Sure there's ee drama but mafia is still going on too!!

Looks like sheeping.

Creature · 2016-04-13 19:02:22

Calicara wrote:

I've been loosely following the Alpha drama.
I guess I'll go with Proc for now and say !vote AlphaJon
If AlphaJon is scum, good for the town. If he's not then we can look at Processor. Either way it will provide us some information about the town.

Ugh, this is horrible, looks like an attempt to cause two mislynches in a row. Also, it's weird it's coming from someone who complained about the "domino effect".

Processor

Creature · 2016-04-13 19:03:26

Fence-sitting is staying indecise rather than taking a side.
Examples:
A and B are fighting with each other, C states he's unsure who to side with.
B is unsure if A is scum or not.

Creature · 2016-04-13 19:03:47

Okay, Processor must be town, I am just paranoid.

Creature · 2016-04-13 19:04:36

Town: Processor, SmittyW.
Leaning Town: maxi123
Leaning Scum: Bobithan, Onjit
Scum: Calicara

Creature · 2016-04-13 19:05:08

!vote Calicara

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:12:12

Last 6 games: No one takes day 1 posts seriously

Game 7: day 1 posts matter

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Creature you're coming out of nowhere with yesterday's news leaning on Proc, whom incited a mislynch. I'm weary of your quick alliance. Why are you so sure Processor is town?

Also @Maxi, I did vote Kaslai day 1 as a joke, but I unvoted. I wasn't getting a scum feel from him. If I had to guess what's going on here's what I'd say,

Processor is probably town. Creature is probably scum. So last night Creature kills Kaslai. Creature, being scum, aligns himself with Processor to look like a good town. Then Creature brings up my joke vote to incriminate me for the death of Kaslai. Which by the by, killing someone you voted for the previous day would be just about one of the dumbest strategies...

I'm gonna say !Vote Creature, he's giving me bad vibes...

SmittyW · 2016-04-13 19:21:26

Creature's analysis is frighteningly close to my opinions

I hope Onjit and Bobithan don't get away by being sitting ducks this whole game

Creature · 2016-04-13 19:40:42

Calicara wrote:

Last 6 games: No one takes day 1 posts seriously
Game 7: day 1 posts matter

Since when day 1 posts didn't matter?
Game 2 had so many obvscum, too bad didn't take anything seriously
Game 3 also had good leads on the mafia team, but nobody did anything about it.
Game 4 had so many posts being ignored.
Game 5 also had good leads on the mafia team, again, nobody did anything about it.
Game 6 is the game we took D1 posts seriously and we managed to get 1-2 scum from them.

Why should we ignore D1 posts? Because they're all joke? That's what scum wants. Did you hear about "Order from the Chaos"?

Creature you're coming out of nowhere with yesterday's news leaning on Proc, whom incited a mislynch. I'm weary of your quick alliance. Why are you so sure Processor is town?

Mislynching is common, and that doesn't make the one who pushed for it automatically scum.

I am townreading Processor because he was trying to push discussion and actually seemed to be scum hunting, while you wanted to just nolynch and when you got the opportunity, you voted AlphaJon (which you probably knew he was town but voted anyway).

Processor is probably town. Creature is probably scum. So last night Creature kills Kaslai. Creature, being scum, aligns himself with Processor to look like a good town.

How did you get to that conclusion? Pretty sure there's a line between town hunting and town buddying. Also, why are you town reading Processor?

Then Creature brings up my joke vote to incriminate me for the death of Kaslai.

You voting Kaslai and then later him dying doesn't mean an evidence to Kaslai's death. You could be voting anyone, it's still an awful vote.

Which by the by, killing someone you voted for the previous day would be just about one of the dumbest strategies...

Not if the vote was a joke.

I'm gonna say !Vote Creature, he's giving me bad vibes...

Weird it's coming from someone who wanted to do nothing but nolynch. Since you're voting me, answer: What do you expect town to do and what do you expect scum to do?

N1KF

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:46:45

Ok I just want to expand and clarify on my post:

On Processor: At this point I think Processor is town. My last post implied he might be scummy because of AlphaJon, but let me explain: I know from the past few games Processor has a natural leader play style. Ergo, people are inclined to follow him because he has good reads and good intuition. Therefore, it's hard to tell at this point whether Alpha was mislynched because Processor genuinely thought he was scummy, or because he was purposely trying to get him lynched because Processor scum. I'd like to believe the former.

It's also not fair to blame the lynch entirely on him, again I realize that's the implication. And as for my hammer vote, well I can defend myself to the dawn of time, but it's only gonna make me look more scummy. But I honest to goodness did not realize it was a hammer vote, whether anyone believes me or not.

Regardless, at this point I think it is very likely Processor is town.

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On Creature: I honestly forgot Creature was playing until he posted about me. He entirely abstained from posting day 1, which if that isn't scummy I don't know what is. Nonetheless, he returns octo-posting basically calling everyone out, though especially myself. He even lurked around and found my day 1 vote for Kaslai.

As I said before, this was a joke vote. Because Kaslai were on a team once, I did it for a bit of humour. Though I quickly unvoted as I had no intention of lynching him.

Now isn't is suspicious that Kaslai dies the next day???

One person would think: Calicara votes Kaslai > Calicara unvotes because she is fearful > Calicara then kills Kaslai > The strategy is so obviously dumb Calicara must be scum trying to play a double-bluff

But before we go there let's look some more at Creature. Again, as I said, I don't like the way he's incriminating everyone, being extremely vindictive, and coming from seemingly nowhere. I get that Day 1 posts are important, but wouldn't they be more important on Day 1? And if Creature clearly saw the train-wreck that led to the lynching of Alpha, why didn't he say something? I'm not saying it frees me from my irresponsible hammer vote, but not helping to stop such things can be just as scummy as making them happen.

So I reiterate, here's what I think really happened:

Calicara vote Kaslai > Creature or his goon buddy kills Kaslai > Creature makes a bunch of reads targeting other town, but specifically pulls up my vote for Kaslai last> Calicara looks scummy for voting on someone who was just killed > And Creature aligning with Processor makes Creature look like town

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Now on the Processor/Creature alignment:

Creature seems to be trying really hard to align himself with Processor, and seems very confident that Processor is town. The only way one could know that Processor is confirmed town is if you are Processor himself, or if you're scum. I think Creature knows Processor is town, and a vocal one at that, and that's why he's trying to hard to rub shoulders.

However, without a response from Processor, I only see Creature as the scummy one and not him. An alignment only works when both parties mutually agree to help each other. Creature might be scum, but I could hardly say the same of Processor.

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As for everyone else: I'm honestly getting neutral reads all around. I'm feeling good that SmittyW. and Maxi123 are town. Onjit has a habit of lurking in the past, but he's not giving off an overly scum vibe to me. Bobithan seems slightly scummy to me, and I do agree with one thing, Bobithans sheep vote on Alpha was suspicious af. I'd like to hear more on his opinions.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:48:04

Oh and my nolynch was from yesterday. I abstained initially today, but then voted for you Creature.

Creature · 2016-04-13 19:52:47

Do you realise I replaced Anak after D1?

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:58:49

No..... No I did not. It still doesn't change my opinion a whole lot. A few of my points might be off, but I still think you're scum.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:59:30

Give me a bit to read Anaks posts....

Creature · 2016-04-13 20:02:39

First, I never said you were scum for voting someone who died. I was pointing out your vote was awful.

Creature · 2016-04-13 20:05:20

Second, you still didn't say how you reached to the conclusion I was trying to buddy with Processor. I already stated why I was town reading Processor, and town hunting isn't something only scum do.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 20:09:24

Some of Anaks post from D1:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 29#p594029 : Calling out Maxi for no reason. Maxi always plays defensive.

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 71#p594071 : This seems like a really desperate, "I'm concerned about other town, but not really, because I Just need to make myself look good cause I'm scum", post.

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 20#p594120 : Same thing here. Not really an analysis, just a cry to look like a concerned town.

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 15#p594515 : Third time claiming he didn't want a hammervote/mislynch, I see no reason he needed to mention it three times unless he was trying to defend himself, which if he was town wouldn't be necessary.

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I retain my vote.

Also:

Creature wrote:

First, I never said you were scum for voting someone who died. I was pointing out your vote was awful.

If you didn't think I was scum, then why out of all the players did you vote me? You clearly don't think I'm town. And yes, I know the vote was awful, and I apologize for my bad maths.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 20:10:38

Where did you explain your town reading on Processor? Enlighten me.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 20:11:43

P.S. I'm taking a short break to do some homework. I want to hear what others have to say. I'll check back later tonight.

Creature · 2016-04-13 20:34:23

Calicara wrote:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 29#p594029 : Calling out Maxi for no reason. Maxi always plays defensive.

It's a continuation to the meme.

Calicara wrote:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 71#p594071 : This seems like a really desperate, "I'm concerned about other town, but not really, because I Just need to make myself look good cause I'm scum", post.

It seems like he was worried with these nolynch votes, seeing how most of the scum voted nolynch last games.

Calicara wrote:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 20#p594120 : Same thing here. Not really an analysis, just a cry to look like a concerned town.

It's rather an opinion. I don't see it being town cred aimy.

Calicara wrote:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 15#p594515 : Third time claiming he didn't want a hammervote/mislynch, I see no reason he needed to mention it three times unless he was trying to defend himself, which if he was town wouldn't be necessary.

It's a response to maxi123. Also, it's not a defense at all.

I have to take a better look at Anak's posts. I might not agree with him at some posts, but we're the same alignment, therefore I know his intentions were good.

Creature · 2016-04-13 20:35:13

Okay, I believe Calicara has been shaken enough and her reaction seemed coming from an angry town. Time to get this annoying fish from under the radar.

!vote Bobithan

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