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#1 2015-12-19 23:03:57

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Science or Humanity

Regarding scientifical tests on animals and humans.

Science, because human knowledge is better than humanity without knowledge. If it's a possible cure for a disease, I would say they should test in a human, volunteer or not, because testing in other animals proves nothing. I am very favourable for science.


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#2 2015-12-19 23:06:01

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Re: Science or Humanity

"Volunteer or not" seems a bit far, but yes, I'd agree that testing on people willing... or animals...  is reasonable.

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#3 2015-12-19 23:10:49

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Re: Science or Humanity

If they do end up force-testing science experiments on humans, they should at least do it to guilty people, such as murderers, rapists and thieves. People should have to consent before being injected with something potentially lethal or crippling, which is why we do animal testing. We don't necessarily want to kill humans for experimentation reasons, which is why we don't. Animal testing is a better option here. I mean, if we slaughter thousands of non-human organisms each day, doesn't that make murder our most "human" quality?

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#4 2015-12-19 23:15:22

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Re: Science or Humanity

Involuntary experimentation goes against the 8th amendment. "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

People shouldn't be subjected to possibly horrific testings on things we have little knowledge on. Drug testing on willing participants already exists anyways, but there's a line between testing the effects of a drug we are somewhat confident in and conducting immoral experiments for "science".


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#5 2015-12-19 23:26:39

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Re: Science or Humanity

I'd like to say "if a person is willing" but then there's the problem of people just testing on unwilling people and lying. as for animals i know its could be cruel but its for science.


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#6 2015-12-19 23:33:44

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Re: Science or Humanity

I'm for all animal testing but cosmetic testing.
That the testing is to a good cause is a given

#7 2015-12-20 01:49:48

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Re: Science or Humanity

I prefer Science AND Humanity.
Since technological progress have a totally different pace then moral and ethical progress, "humanity" should have technology in a leash, since it is merely a tool (even if it's a tool that defines and shape mankind).

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#8 2015-12-20 03:37:19

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Re: Science or Humanity

I support human test. There are way too much humans compared to monkeys and guinea pigs. And they could tell how they're feeling.


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#9 2015-12-20 19:21:29

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Re: Science or Humanity

Creature wrote:

I support human test. There are way too much humans compared to monkeys and guinea pigs. And they could tell how they're feeling.

whoa slow down there mengele

sure it would solve overpopulation, but you do know these are actual living human beings you're talking about?


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#10 2015-12-20 19:23:12

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Re: Science or Humanity

Pingohits wrote:
Creature wrote:

I support human test. There are way too much humans compared to monkeys and guinea pigs. And they could tell how they're feeling.

whoa slow down there mengele

sure it would solve overpopulation, but you do know these are actual living human beings you're talking about?

What makes them different from other livings?


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