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#1 2015-11-25 11:42:17, last edited by Gosha (2015-11-25 11:42:41)

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Every block, what need to be morphable.

All blocks that needs to be morphable in ee.

BLOCKS
ACTIONS
DECORATIONS. gosh how many.
BACKGROUND.

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#2 2015-11-25 11:51:13

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

The issue is that each one of these blocks have already their block ID. To make them morph-able, they need all to have the same block ID, meaning that a lot of worlds with those blocks would have to be ruined just to make the blocks morphable.
That, unless there is a way to make blocks morph-able, each block version with their normal and respective block ID.

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#3 2015-11-25 12:10:12

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

HG wrote:

The issue is that each one of these blocks have already their block ID. To make them morph-able, they need all to have the same block ID, meaning that a lot of worlds with those blocks would have to be ruined just to make the blocks morphable.
That, unless there is a way to make blocks morph-able, each block version with their normal and respective block ID.

in the begining there was only 1 colour:
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now 4.

did worlds ruined? nope

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#4 2015-11-25 12:56:56

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

first off, the last decoration, the fence has a page already here

next, a sideways pillar, what are you crazy?
last the list, upside down sand corner? 

what im  saying is do we really need all of these morphs. no


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#5 2015-11-25 13:06:19

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

shadowda wrote:

next, a sideways pillar, what are you crazy?

yea. why not? Ruined towns with brocken pillars

shadowda wrote:

what im  saying is do we really need all of these morphs. no

okay. not all of them maybe
but here is what i reall need(use them much):

pics

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#6 2015-11-25 13:32:59

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Goshanoob wrote:
HG wrote:

The issue is that each one of these blocks have already their block ID. To make them morph-able, they need all to have the same block ID, meaning that a lot of worlds with those blocks would have to be ruined just to make the blocks morphable.
That, unless there is a way to make blocks morph-able, each block version with their normal and respective block ID.

in the begining there was only 1 colour:
UjAt8yM.png
now 4.

did worlds ruined? nope

You're not getting it. It started off as one but was then turned into 4 new ones. Then you have 4a 4b 4c and 4d. Merging blocks does the opposite. It'll turn 4 5 6 7 into 4a 4b 4c 4d but that means that they will all be turned into 4a in existing worlds. Therefore changing the blocks and ruining existing worlds.


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#7 2015-11-25 14:14:15

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Nou wrote:
Goshanoob wrote:
HG wrote:

The issue is that each one of these blocks have already their block ID. To make them morph-able, they need all to have the same block ID, meaning that a lot of worlds with those blocks would have to be ruined just to make the blocks morphable.
That, unless there is a way to make blocks morph-able, each block version with their normal and respective block ID.

in the begining there was only 1 colour:
UjAt8yM.png
now 4.

did worlds ruined? nope

You're not getting it. It started off as one but was then turned into 4 new ones. Then you have 4a 4b 4c and 4d. Merging blocks does the opposite. It'll turn 4 5 6 7 into 4a 4b 4c 4d but that means that they will all be turned into 4a in existing worlds. Therefore changing the blocks and ruining existing worlds.

But you can still do it without ruining some of them.


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#8 2015-11-25 15:15:29

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Nou wrote:

You're not getting it. It started off as one but was then turned into 4 new ones. Then you have 4a 4b 4c and 4d. Merging blocks does the opposite. It'll turn 4 5 6 7 into 4a 4b 4c 4d but that means that they will all be turned into 4a in existing worlds. Therefore changing the blocks and ruining existing worlds.

Couldn't you have placeholder IDs?

Eg. If you have 4 5 6 7 currently, and you want to turn it into 4a 4b 4c 4d, wouldn't it be possible to leave 4 5 6 7 as they are, as 'dummy' IDs? Like, it'd be impossible to place new blocks with ID of 4 5 6 7, but the existing ones would be unaffected.

Sorry if my phrasing makes no sense, it's 1AM and I should go to bed.


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#9 2015-11-25 15:21:50, last edited by shadowda (2015-11-25 15:22:33)

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Goshanoob wrote:
shadowda wrote:

next, a sideways pillar, what are you crazy?

yea. why not? Ruined towns with brocken pillars

shadowda wrote:

what im  saying is do we really need all of these morphs. no

okay. not all of them maybe
but here is what i reall need(use them much):

pics

ok agree with a lot of what you put. such as the Halloween corner and the... ok just the Halloween stuff.
we don't need sideways fire. but it could be ok.
we defiantly don't need all the morph of the industry blocks. or the Christmas fence they way you want it. I like the way farm fence are only to blocks. but the summer fence should be morphable .

morphable fence thread


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#10 2015-11-25 16:07:23

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Moved to graphics suggestions.


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#11 2015-11-25 17:00:44

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

these changes have to be done someday, even if some worlds get destroyed. The owner just needs to check his worlds and rotate them again.
If some owners never come back, too bad then.


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#12 2015-11-25 18:35:30

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

An idea on how to bypass the "breaking worlds" thing:
The worlds have some metadata which indicates the world version, and the world is rendered depending of its version.
Saving a world in an older version would automatically convert the world if a "breaking feature" is added (Alert the owner when the world is getting updated?). Or if the owner doesn't add anything new, it can still update the world, or keep the older version for backwards-compatibility
If no version metadata is present, it is assumed that the world wasn't saved since the version was introduced.

Pros:

  • Inactive worlds won't have to be updated, no matter how many "breaking changes" are introduced.

  • The features that can be added to EE will be retro-compatible (a.k.a an update won't break existing worlds)

  • Many features that couldn't be added before can be added now

The last point includes the idea of this topic

Cons:

  • The EE client will have to keep the world rendering for older versions, in order to render older worlds the proper way

  • There will be "version fragmentation" which means that you will always find a specific older version if you search hard enough

  • World owners MAY have to check if their worlds remain playable before updating them

That, or update the whole EE database whenever a breaking change is done

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#13 2015-11-25 20:18:11

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

We need this. All of this. Also a industrial pack conveyor belt with + shape (4 ways). The upside down sand makes sense if you make upside down worlds so overall we need it too.


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#14 2015-11-25 21:04:43

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Im pretty sure about 0,00% people will use these ones.
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#15 2015-11-25 21:07:37

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Luka504 wrote:

Im pretty sure about 0,00% people will use these ones.
http://i.imgur.com/wLj1jtj.png

so you're saying i'm nothing? ;-; i cri


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#16 2015-11-25 22:09:20

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

EE would not lose anything if these blocks were morphable, in fact it would be really good.
Since EE is a sandbox game, you make blocks, decorations and effects for people to create things with. If you limit what people can create, by not letting different possibilities arise, then you're killing the point of it.
As an example, here's a world I was making:

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The shields are wheels, wooden cowboy doors are the back of the cars, autums leaves and ice are the fron of the cars, timed doors as semaphore, greek pilar, a japanese syllable, wooden fences and the yellow thing as a light pole, glasses as reflected light, autumns leaves and clouds as flags...
All of this only is possible using what we have in different ways. MORPH THEM ALL!

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#17 2015-11-25 22:34:58

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Tamashiimizu wrote:

EE would not lose anything if these blocks were morphable, in fact it would be really good.

it's not that people don't want it in the game, it's that it would be difficult to implement it


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#18 2015-11-25 22:43:54

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

one thing that makes ee fun is the fact you have to work with what you have. or at least i think so.


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#19 2015-11-26 01:09:35

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

Luka504 wrote:

Im pretty sure about 0,00% people will use these ones.
wLj1jtj.png

No, not really. People use blocks in imaginative ways that help improve in-game art, and morphing more blocks = better in-game art.
Plus if you don't like it, then just don't use it.

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#20 2015-11-26 04:05:30

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

anch159 wrote:
Luka504 wrote:

Im pretty sure about 0,00% people will use these ones.
wLj1jtj.png

No, not really. People use blocks in imaginative ways that help improve in-game art, and morphing more blocks = better in-game art.
Plus if you don't like it, then just don't use it.

like a cannon head or something with thew pillar stuff.


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#21 2015-11-26 12:16:59

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

some man wrote:
Tamashiimizu wrote:

EE would not lose anything if these blocks were morphable, in fact it would be really good.

it's not that people don't want it in the game, it's that it would be difficult to implement it

I thought the main problem was only, that some blocks will have a different rotation by default, not the programing.
So people just need to deal with that one.


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#22 2015-11-27 19:52:38

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Re: Every block, what need to be morphable.

As long as you're not merging anything, it shouldn't break stuff and it shouldn't be hard to implement.


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