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#1 2015-11-16 19:52:59, last edited by Kira (2015-11-16 20:24:29)

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Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

I saw some message on twitter saying that classical music is bad compared to dubstep

We tend to avoid listening to old songs, but i'm wondering how can you compare a masterpiece such as Requiem for a Dream by Clint Mansell to some remixed sounds? Listen to those 2 and let me know what you think

Requiem:

Requiem Remixed version:

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#2 2015-11-16 19:57:24

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

Dubstep and classical music are such vastly different styles that they're kind of incomparable....
Plus, everyone has different stylistic tastes.

#3 2015-11-16 20:02:21

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

Yeah of course, but i'm mainly talking about the pessimistic comparison that people usually makes.
Nowadays, if you're listening to classical music in public areas you are strangely seen by others (My friend had that experience not long time ago in the metro).

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#4 2015-11-16 20:18:46

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

AHHH THAT REQUIEM FOR A DREAM SONG WAS NOT WRITTEN BY MOZART

anyway, like others said, you can't compare them, it just depends on your personal tastes. Personally, I have a fascination with soundtracks because they are made to invoke emotion, however a genre like dubstep doesn't really have that same effect on me, and I suppose I'm not a massive fan of dubstep in general.


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#5 2015-11-16 20:23:18

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

skullz17 wrote:

AHHH THAT REQUIEM FOR A DREAM SONG WAS NOT WRITTEN BY MOZART

anyway, like others said, you can't compare them, it just depends on your personal tastes. Personally, I have a fascination with soundtracks because they are made to invoke emotion, however a genre like dubstep doesn't really have that same effect on me, and I suppose I'm not a massive fan of dubstep in general.

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#6 2015-11-16 20:28:51

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

I wouldn't dance to mozart (ok, in some situations I would), it isn't catchy in the same way as edm or folk music is for me. To be honest I dont like listening to classical music that much if it isn't in the background for studying or drawing, but man it's fun to play some mozart or chopin on the piano. I havent really tried bangaranging dubstep sounds with pads like some people do, but I think I enjoy playing the piano more.

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#7 2015-11-16 21:59:27

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

if it was 2 years ago i would've probably chose the dubstep remix

but now that i think of it, the remix you provided used a lot of templates and sounded nearly the same as the original song with additional wub dubs

all in all, the original composition is my choice


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#8 2015-11-16 23:09:25

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

Kira wrote:

Yeah of course, but i'm mainly talking about the pessimistic comparison that people usually makes.
Nowadays, if you're listening to classical music in public areas you are strangely seen by others (My friend had that experience not long time ago in the metro).

If you're listening to music in public loud enough that others can hear, you deserve to be "strangely seen" regardless of genre.

If that happened because people asked what they was listening to and they responded strangely, that just makes them jerks.

Music is entirely subjective. It's no use comparing musical styles because what seems like literal white noise to you might seems like a masterful arrangement to someone who can appreciate the finer details of said noise.


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#9 2015-11-16 23:34:02

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

I have never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever EVER seen the appeal of dubstep. I'm not going to explain my reasoning because like ^ said its all subjective. But let the amount of "evers" show you how little I see the appeal.



I honestly may be a little biased, but there has to be something said for the art of classical music. I mean, people pour their lives into learning how to play it, and it really is an art. A lot of the times, people think of it only as Mozart, or Beethoven or whatever, but there is so much more that gets lumped under the umbrella "classical" label. I mean listen to the first minutes or so of this-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rVW4Z70TfE (Elgar Cello concerto)

I mean its beautiful. And dramatic, and expressive...


Now listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiPX3Hw7j2c

(Skip to like minute 6 or so and listen to a couple minutes)

Its exciting and fun and contemporary.


There are a lot of great pieces that would be dismissed by someone who doesn't listen to "classical" music. The more I learn about the theory behind music, the more it interests me. There is so much going on and it really is beautiful.


All that pretentious **** being said, I really like pop music lol. I blast it in the car on the regular. I think it can also be super expressive and awesome (Adele's "Hello", anyone?). Dubstep just doesn't do it for me because its not SAYING anything, and I dont mean literally. Its loud, obnoxious, and has no soul.

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#10 2015-11-16 23:40:01

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

I'd rather listen to Classical music than Dubstep, I just don't like dubstep at all... It doesn't have a meaning to it, just some stupid wub noises mixed in with some more frequencies


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#11 2015-11-16 23:48:10

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

Video game music / orchestral is the best imo

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#12 2015-11-17 04:52:04

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

dubstep brah


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#13 2015-11-17 06:25:50

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

Original version (classical); never liked dubstep.


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#14 2015-11-17 06:50:46

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

skullz17 wrote:

AHHH THAT REQUIEM FOR A DREAM SONG WAS NOT WRITTEN BY MOZART

anyway, like others said, you can't compare them, it just depends on your personal tastes. Personally, I have a fascination with soundtracks because they are made to invoke emotion,

same here

however a genre like dubstep doesn't really have that same effect on me, and I suppose I'm not a massive fan of dubstep in general.

Depends on the type. A lot of stuff gets lumped under the "dubstep" label and a lot of that stuff is not much more than noise. But I think stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5AG3d1C0ZI is pretty okay.
Although I like it when classical elements get blended up with electronic ones in general so maybe it's just me. And choirs in backgrounds.

As far as Requiem for a Dream goes, I like the original better because that is a pretty trash remix. Although that's not saying much, I don't like Requiem for a Dream a whole lot either just because it feels like it's repeating the same tiny bit over and over while dragging its feet.


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#15 2015-11-17 08:53:08, last edited by Tako (2015-11-17 08:54:44)

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

I agree that dubstep has a different purpose entirely. You can't compare apples and Parmesan cheese.

If anything it kind of upsets me when people take classical music and use their notoriety as a booster. Or worse, when people use classical music because they're too lazy to make their own melody.

As a huge classical music fanatic, I'd rather listen to the original because instead of being distracted by radical tempo changes and beats, you understand the melodies and extract feelings from those. In other words, it lets you be the music instead of merely responding to it. Kind of abstract but that's the best way I can put it.

Is it as fun? No, unless Rachmaninoff Opus 23 No. 5 (Valentina is bae, too). But it is more rich in meaning. Value depends on what you're looking for.

[Edit] Side note, has anyone seen the movie Requiem for a Dream? It's one of those types that is highly metaphorical and abstract (my favorite) regarding hedonism, drugs, and the media.


Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

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#16 2015-11-18 19:47:22

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Re: Masterpiece vs Dubstep?

I guess what most people look for in music is just something fun to listen to for a while, not something to appreciate its delicate intricacies and work put into it; but different people enjoy different things, both points of view are valid and not mutually exclusive.

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