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Unau

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What makes a level good?

I have been working on a few maps and would like some advice. What makes a level good?

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thanks koya

Pingohits

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From: aids lizard

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Re: What makes a level good?

how to make a good level and feel great about it:

1. you have fun while building it

2. you know other people will have fun because you worked hard on it

3. art and minis don't matter as long as you have fun

4. fun

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Anak

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Re: What makes a level good?

how to make a good level and feel great about it:

1. you have fun while building it

2. you know other people will have fun because you worked hard on it

3. art and minis don't matter as long as you have fun

4. fun

I rarely see this actually. I don't see anyone mention having fun whilst making a level and that's really the most important thing

Pingohits

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From: aids lizard

Joined: 2015-02-15

Posts: 7,591

Re: What makes a level good?

how to make a good level and feel great about it:

1. you have fun while building it

2. you know other people will have fun because you worked hard on it

3. art and minis don't matter as long as you have fun

4. fun

I rarely see this actually. I don't see anyone mention having fun whilst making a level and that's really the most important thing

that's the problem now kiddo

ya see here, ee peeps are too focused on their "minigams" and "artscraftery" and "dezign" when they should actually be focused on the enjoyment of the level

now, as i scroll through the level list, the majority of levels are WIPs with some art in the corner or forced minis conjured by some wannabe popular user

strange as it seems, the only user that actually focuses on fun is ipwner

every single level in his profile catches my attention

and no, i'm not saying you should be like ipwner

if you did you would lose all your friends and become obsessed with cats

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Kirby

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Joined: 2015-04-04

Posts: 4,311

Re: What makes a level good?

1: Concept

Concept should come first. If you have a very good idea that hasn't been seen before, go for it. Examples of concepts include megaman dash, click click wood (at least i tried to make it conceptual, but idk), EX odyssey, etc etc.

2: Gameplay

Plenty of good guides on this subforum, but personally, when I make minis, I focus on these things
A) Flow. Is the mini one movement, and does that movement just feel... Right?
B) Difficulty. If the mini is pixel perfect to create articifial difficulty, don't use it. Side note with difficulty, when making levels, if you notice you have one mini that's super hard, and the others after are much easier, you probably should remove it. Good difficulty curves are pretty important.
C) Concept. If you've seen a very similar version of the mini, don't make it. If you've seen it in 200 lava minigames, don't make it. EX pro forgotten veil has some pretty nice conceptual minis, especially 2, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, almost all of them come to think of it.

3: Art

Unless your map is only for art purposes, you need to focus on ingame art too. Make sure the player can never even see: checkered BG, carnival striped BGs, really anything that isn't nice to look at. You can be the judge of that

I don't know if that helps, but those are what I focus on when trying to make good levels.

And @pingo, at least for me, I don't care about having fun making it. I get much much more enjoyment when I see people playing it and them having fun with it.

Awesomenessgood

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Joined: 2015-08-06

Posts: 1,666

Re: What makes a level good?

While I'm making my worlds, people come in, play for about 30 seconds, then leave ;-;

I personally feel like my levels are fun tho. (By levels I mean only one level)

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lunchbox

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Re: What makes a level good?

Originality in first place.

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This is a false statement.

Anch

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Joined: 2015-02-16

Posts: 5,447

Re: What makes a level good?

how to make a good level and feel great about it:

1. you have fun while building it

2. you know other people will have fun because you worked hard on it

3. art and minis don't matter as long as you have fun

4. fun

I rarely see this actually. I don't see anyone mention having fun whilst making a level and that's really the most important thing

that's the problem now kiddo

ya see here, ee peeps are too focused on their "minigams" and "artscraftery" and "dezign" when they should actually be focused on the enjoyment of the level

now, as i scroll through the level list, the majority of levels are WIPs with some art in the corner or forced minis conjured by some wannabe popular user

strange as it seems, the only user that actually focuses on fun is ipwner

every single level in his profile catches my attention

and no, i'm not saying you should be like ipwner

if you did you would lose all your friends and become obsessed with cats

I agree with Pingohits. I'm not saying to ignore minis and art, but just make sure its fun!

Abelysk

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Re: What makes a level good?

I have fun coming up with concepts and original work.

John

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Joined: 2019-01-11

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Re: What makes a level good?

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And @pingo, at least for me, I don't care about having fun making it. I get much much more enjoyment when I see people playing it and them having fun with it.

That's how I feel too.

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MIHB_casts_confuseplayer

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Re: What makes a level good?

When you're making it, you need to be thinking to yourself "this is going to be so awesome".  If you don't feel that way, why would anybody else?  If you look at what you've made and you don't feel it, take a step back and figure out what its missing or if its even worth continuing.