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eeisold

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Transmit Key Presses

It would be very helpful for bot levels if programs could determine when keys are pressed. This, combined with the /pm feature, would clean up chat in "BALs" extensively. Many such levels use short commands for initiating actions. These add up, especially if the bot is to respond with information. Further, many bots can improve the user experience with this improvement.

What say you? Would it be reasonable to ship off the key presses to better the gaming experience? Should we limit it to the more used keys like 'zxcb'? Or '1234'? Or not at all?

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If the game could detect any key pressed, this would be helpful for bots and such in many ways. "Press 1 for yes, 2 for no". They don't have to do anything in-game, but mainly for bot use.

they already said no to this, i don't remember the reasoning

Privacy mainly.

True, but is there a way around it?

'privacy mainly'
Then do as EE already does. Users don't move when they're sending chat messages. Similarly, don't send bots your keystrokes if you don't want them known.
Unless you like to talk to yourself... by writing... with the box closed... "privacy" has been fully upheld.

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Ever notice that you can talk about war, art, science, and design in the chat without your smiley moving? Opposite, ever click outside the chat box to move? Does the chat get manipulated?

Or perhaps you took issue with preserving privacy outside of the swf. Ever find that your smiley has continued moving after you let go of the respective key?
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You can use quickchat to detect alt gr + number

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lrussell

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Re: Transmit Key Presses

You can use Alt+0..9 to represent quick chat messages, which you could then have the bot interpret as certain commands.

eeisold

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Re: Transmit Key Presses

I meant to add something about that
Yes, that would work. Although, that's a bit of a stretch to send.
Not to mention, I can't use those shortcuts. Keyboard/computer doesn't pass them through.

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lrussell

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Re: Transmit Key Presses

I meant to add something about that
Yes, that would work. Although, that's a bit of a stretch to send.
Not to mention, I can't use those shortcuts. Keyboard/computer doesn't pass them through.

I'm able to send them just fine. There is an alternative option, make a separate program for the BAL that players can use and somehow relay its messages back to the master bot.

eeisold

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Re: Transmit Key Presses

/s

You're right. However, this is Game Suggestions. Further, a great deal of folks don't download EE. I can't see them downloading a program for one level (that requires the other program... etc). You'd also have to register hotkeys somehow. Otherwise you'd have to switch between windows, which isn't smooth at all.
Plus, there's the privacy argument again. Who's to know you aren't keylogging? If you skip a Shift or Ctrl prefix, does the bot know when to stop?

I like the idea, but I don't think it applies to this in particular.

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Era

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Re: Transmit Key Presses

You can send them, either open chat and click them or press one of the following:
"Alt Gr" + *
"Ctrl" + "Alt" + *
Note: * repressents a wildcard character for the numbers which are not on the numpad

Also Lrussel the point you mentioned was already in the OP, by me