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No more energy!

Did you not hear the news?   Chris is removing the energy system completely.   What do you think?

He plans to do something else, but what..?

Oh, and we can all than NOU for this

Last edited by Persona (Jun 29 2012 10:52:16 pm)

ABC Boy

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Re: No more energy!

WAIT WHAT?

so he will make everything can be only bought with gems? Iquit. seriously.

Krock

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Re: No more energy!

If there's an alternative to bought items/worlds for free, then I accept

Persona

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Re: No more energy!

You cannot get magic coins (other then wizards) in the current version!

GKAbyss

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Re: No more energy!

It's probably because everyone was abusing the magic system with with coin collector :/

Kirby

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Re: No more energy!

persona, i talked to nou, who is my friend on ee, and asked him, because he is benjaminsen on ee

yah know how you give bots and not care?

Coin Collecter is why he is taking energy down

and yes, he is removing the whole energy system

good job persona

ABC Boy

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Re: No more energy!

Comeon! chris! don't Make everybody edits dead!

Krazyman50

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Re: No more energy!

Can someone at least post a picture showing proof of this?

Persona

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Re: No more energy!

Spiderman took a photo..   And I never shared it to anyone.   Nou was butthurt about me sharing to a few people who I could have trusted, and told chris.

Blaming me is like blaming the baby who had his lolipop taken away from by someone else.

NOU In CS IRC:   I could get you banned from EE.   I know chris very well on skype
(something like that)

And so he told.   He used it himself.
Kinda ironic.   So instead of blaming me, refer to the topic and give your opinion on this.
I don't want this to turn into a hate train

Last edited by Persona (Jun 29 2012 10:49:58 pm)

ABC Boy

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Re: No more energy!

Yeah, i havn't heard of the new, show proof? today isn't April fools day.

GKAbyss

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Re: No more energy!

In the case of something urgent like this, even though energy magic is already removed, would they have an update as soon as possible or wait until Thursday?

Persona

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Re: No more energy!

I wasn't the one sharng it publicly.   I was giving it to a few people whom I   could trust.

Kirby

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Re: No more energy!

persona that was my conversation with nou, i am non chat though so it looks like hes talking to himself

JadElClemens

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Re: No more energy!

Apparently you couldn't trust them, because one of them shared it.

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Persona

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Re: No more energy!

I never even gave it out..   i had no chance to

TheRealGtaa

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Re: No more energy!

Ik. Energy are gone! D:
BUT you get the Wizards, Witch now faster!

GKAbyss

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Re: No more energy!

I don't see this as Persona's fault, I dislike any use of coin collector at all. It really just seems unfair to me, though no one should be sharing private bots at all.
IMO it's ok to share bots if the creator specifically told you to do so, but it's wrong to share a private bot without the owner's permission.
It's not Persona's fault that energy is being taken away. Persona did not share coin collector, but he was going to and I don't see how not sharing it can make up for that, besides slowing the spread of the malignant program.
The reason why energy is being taken away is because coin collector is being used and abused by so many people almost destroying the energy system which it exploits so much. Not only is CC a problem IMO but there was a false CC thrown in by someone to steal accounts. The whole event was chaotic and I guess the easiest choice for Chris was to just remove the energy system completely.

Last edited by GKAbyss (Jun 29 2012 11:17:55 pm)

eeplayer17

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Re: No more energy!

I for one am glad the energy system is being removed (if indeed it is). There's a lot of people with an unfair amount of energy from using bots and other illegitimate methods. I'm interested to see what Chris will replace it with and how a new system will prevent abuse.

You can still get smileys from coins btw, I just saw someone get a wizard.

GKAbyss

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Re: No more energy!

Are the chances for finding magic smilies any higher? It might be possible that Chris is trying to make the game fair for everyone by 'giving everyone the wizards.'

ani

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Re: No more energy!

WAIT WHAT?

so he will make everything can be only bought with gems? Iquit. seriously.

Who said that he would make everything be bought with gems? Stop jumping to conclusions.

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Nou

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Re: No more energy!

Spiderman took a photo..   And I never shared it to anyone.   Nou was butthurt about me sharing to a few people who I could have trusted, and told chris.

Blaming me is like blaming the baby who had his lolipop taken away from by someone else.

NOU In CS IRC:   I could get you banned from EE.   I know chris very well on skype
(something like that)

And so he told.   He used it himself.
Kinda ironic.   So instead of blaming me, refer to the topic and give your opinion on this.
I don't want this to turn into a hate train

Hai. You take everything way too seriously and I was mocking that. Considering you believed ThuggishPrune's trolling saying he hacked you, yea, you're very very gullible. Same goes with the banning. Great way to not turn this into a hate train by the way, but you're known for being an idiot so you can't help it I guess

But now that it's out, might as well shed some light on this situation. I'm not blaming Persona specifically, but everyone massively sharing bots. A website like Persona's certainly doesn't help! So, I'm blaming everyone massively sharing certain bots, most specifically the CoinCollector. I've had a talk with Chris about it, suggesting a change in GameID to break the CoinCollector. Not that a blame game will do anything. Chris has been aware of the massively sharing of bots so he had been planning to do something about it all along. More significantly: he might ban ALL bots somehow. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be public but too late I guess. Chris had been planning to do something about bots for a long time but after the current situation he really wants to do something about it. Here are the key points:

In short:

- Magic has been disabled for now. You can still get witch/wizard, however.
- The energy system will most likely be replaced with something else. We don't know what yet, so it's not necessarily a bad thing.
- Bots might be banned from EE completely. Although personally, I don't see this happening.

[25-6-2012 13:04:36] Chris Benjaminsen: Do tell
[25-6-2012 13:04:41] Nou: well
[25-6-2012 13:04:56] Nou: a long time ago someone made a bot that farms magic coins like crazy
[25-6-2012 13:05:02] Nou: only a small group of people had it
[25-6-2012 13:05:14] Nou: but someone shared it and that person shared it and that person shared it
[25-6-2012 13:05:21] Nou: and well now everyone has it
[25-6-2012 13:05:24] Chris Benjaminsen: yea
[25-6-2012 13:05:31] Chris Benjaminsen: brb, going to go totally disable magic

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[25-6-2012 13:05:34] Nou: well
[25-6-2012 13:05:35] Nou: no
[25-6-2012 13:05:35] Nou: wait
[25-6-2012 13:05:42] Nou: you can break it easily
[25-6-2012 13:05:48] Nou: all you have to do is change the gameID
[25-6-2012 13:06:32] Nou: disabling magic completely seems a bit overdoing it

[25-6-2012 13:08:03]the thing is too that there are different bots that allow you to copy levels which is really annoying too
[25-6-2012 13:08:11] Nou: changing the gameID will also fix that
[25-6-2012 13:08:18] Nou: so, change the gameID pls:P
[25-6-2012 13:13:56] Nou: please tell me you're not completely disabling magic for good -_-
[25-6-2012 13:31:08] Chris Benjaminsen: I think I will totally kill energy
[25-6-2012 13:31:19] Nou: wat
[25-6-2012 13:31:32] Nou: energy or magic?
[25-6-2012 13:31:39] Chris Benjaminsen: both
[25-6-2012 13:31:48] Chris Benjaminsen: Replace it with something a little more modern and game alike
[25-6-2012 13:31:54] Nou: like what?
[25-6-2012 13:32:02] Chris Benjaminsen: no clue yet
[25-6-2012 13:32:10] Chris Benjaminsen: but I am tired of all the greefing going on around those systems
[25-6-2012 13:32:10] Nou: cause that's a big thing
[25-6-2012 13:32:28] Chris Benjaminsen: Im not known for being afraid of changing things drastically
[25-6-2012 13:32:33] Nou: as i said, there's a very simple fix
[25-6-2012 13:32:35] Nou: change the game id
[25-6-2012 13:32:40] Nou: and itll break ALL
[25-6-2012 13:32:51] Chris Benjaminsen: for 10 minutes

[25-6-2012 13:34:31] Chris Benjaminsen: naa, going to do some other stuff
[25-6-2012 13:34:39] Chris Benjaminsen: actually changing the game id is a HUGE change
[25-6-2012 13:34:53] Chris Benjaminsen: which is very easy to get around in the bots
[25-6-2012 13:34:58] Nou: yes and no
[25-6-2012 13:35:03] Nou: that's what im saying
[25-6-2012 13:35:07] Nou: it's not hard if you know how to
[25-6-2012 13:35:17] Nou: the problem is that a lot of people have the bots
[25-6-2012 13:35:22] Chris Benjaminsen: We will :o up the protocal and introduce some auto bot banning
[25-6-2012 13:35:22] Nou: but they have no clue what to do with them
[25-6-2012 13:35:33] Nou: that'd kill levels like shift and digbot as well
[25-6-2012 13:35:40] Chris Benjaminsen: I am well aweare
[25-6-2012 13:35:46] Nou: and that does not make me happy
[25-6-2012 13:35:46] Nou: at all
[25-6-2012 13:35:55] Nou: and lots of other players
[25-6-2012 13:36:03] Chris Benjaminsen: I am aware of that as well

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[25-6-2012 13:36:13] Chris Benjaminsen: however the solution is not to be selective in banning etc
[25-6-2012 13:36:26] Chris Benjaminsen: the solution is to provide the tools to build things like digbot without hacking
[25-6-2012 13:36:29] Nou: there's no need to ban bots completely
[25-6-2012 13:36:44] Nou: also i can't call that hacking
[25-6-2012 13:36:55] Nou: it just reads people's movement
[25-6-2012 13:37:07] Nou: anyway
[25-6-2012 13:37:15] Nou: this is a one time problem
[25-6-2012 13:37:28] Nou: it got out of hands once cause some guy massively shared a couple of bots
[25-6-2012 13:37:45] Nou: so no need for drastic measures such as removing the whole energy system and bots
[25-6-2012 13:38:33] Nou: isnt changing the gameid just altering a few numbers
[25-6-2012 13:39:27] Nou: please don't do anything stupid
[25-6-2012 13:40:18] Chris Benjaminsen: it's not stupid it's awesome
[25-6-2012 13:40:36] Nou: no it's a rash decision that will **** off a LOT of people
[25-6-2012 13:40:44] Chris Benjaminsen: No it won't
[25-6-2012 13:40:51] Chris Benjaminsen: it will **** off exactly 51 hardcore users
[25-6-2012 13:41:10] Chris Benjaminsen: The goal is to build a game that is super fun for everyone
[25-6-2012 13:41:42] Nou: no...people have been collecting energy as rewards for competitions as well
[25-6-2012 13:42:02] Chris Benjaminsen: I know people won't like it
[25-6-2012 13:42:03] Nou: and ok the energy thing, i guess you can find another way to do that
[25-6-2012 13:42:11] Nou: but dont kill off bots completely
[25-6-2012 13:42:30] Chris Benjaminsen: The goal is actually to provide an ingamge scripting language
[25-6-2012 13:42:36] Chris Benjaminsen: Trust me we know the value of the cool levels
[25-6-2012 13:42:40] Chris Benjaminsen: the problem is how you create them
[25-6-2012 13:42:55] Nou: it just hooks into the playerio and sends commands directly
[25-6-2012 13:43:10] Nou: how is that a problem
[25-6-2012 13:43:30] Nou: and ingame scripting will always be very limited
[25-6-2012 13:43:47] Chris Benjaminsen: the problem is that you are having access to tools not everyone has
[25-6-2012 13:44:14] Nou: well that's a plus of knowing how to program
[25-6-2012 13:44:28] Chris Benjaminsen: true true, anyway expect some changes
[25-6-2012 13:44:45] Chris Benjaminsen: also there won't be any non pre warned bannings or anything

[25-6-2012 13:46:13] Chris Benjaminsen: not at all, this has been an issue for ages
[25-6-2012 13:46:42] Nou: bots too?
[25-6-2012 13:46:51] Chris Benjaminsen: coin farming etc
[25-6-2012 13:47:13] Nou: there's 1 tool for that and ive given you the solution
[25-6-2012 13:47:21] Chris Benjaminsen: not at all
[25-6-2012 13:47:32] Nou: if you disable the whole energy system there's no need to kill off bots anymore is there
[25-6-2012 13:47:32] Chris Benjaminsen: anyway I am going back to work
[25-6-2012 13:47:34] Chris Benjaminsen: cya
[25-6-2012 13:47:48] Nou: okay, cya

If you're quoting my entire post you're an idiot.

Last edited by Nou (Jun 30 2012 4:46:26 am)

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DJDavid98

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Re: No more energy!

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D:
What is going on?! Chris is like crazy... I have no idea what they plan to replace the energy system, but we have to hope for the best :\

Wezza

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Re: No more energy!

Sorry for not reading the whole story, but anyways, what about the people who won there energy in an official contest? Kind of harsh to take that away...

DJDavid98

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Re: No more energy!

Sorry for not reading the whole story, but anyways, what about the people who won there energy in an official contest? Kind of harsh to take that away...

Well, maybe they have a record of contest winners, and they will get equal amount of the new currency.

ABC Boy

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Re: No more energy!

FUXCKI.

When i saw the conversation, i am super angry and kept hitting my table.
ok, i vow. If you chris really disable energy, I. quit.

I bet this is what chris really want:

1. Frustrate people
2. Make Everybodyedits less popular
3. Make people hate it
4. Make more cheat/hack/bot/modify/revolution etc. appear

Last edited by ABC Boy (Jun 30 2012 5:34:00 am)