I have been reading about paradoxes recently...

Bobithan · Before February 2015

Here's a few things to think about:
1) So there is this ship. Well, every time a wooden plank starts to rot on the ship, they replace that plank with a brand new plank. If this continues for a few years, and every plank is replaced, is it still the same ship? Or is it a whole new ship? And to add to the confusion, what if all of the old planks where made into another ship? Which one would be the real ship? The one that had the planks replaced or the one made up of the old planks?

2) You can't step into the same river twice

3) If I say, "It's raining outside, but I don't believe it is" does that make sense to you?

4) Answer this question: Is "No" the answer to this question?

I'll try to remember more later

Hurricane · Before February 2015

Bobithan wrote:

Here's a few things to think about:
1) So there is this ship. Well, every time a wooden plank starts to rot on the ship, they replace that plank with a brand new plank. If this continues for a few years, and every plank is replaced, is it still the same ship? Or is it a whole new ship? And to add to the confusion, what if all of the old planks where made into another ship? Which one would be the real ship? The one that had the planks replaced or the one made up of the old planks?
2) You can't step into the same river twice
3) If I say, "It's raining outside, but I don't believe it is" does that make sense to you?
4) Answer this question: Is "No" the answer to this question?
I'll try to remember more later

1. Same ship, With new things added.

2. That makes no sense.

3. No, It doesn't make sense

4. Possibly

Betaguy · Before February 2015

Kinda agree with Hurricane

Last edited by Betaguy (Jun 4 2011 1:33:31 pm)

shorty123 · Before February 2015

1) it one ship that has multiplied to make 2 of the same ship
2) because it keeps flowing
3) it means that you contradict yourself
4) yes.
5) >OFF-TOPIC ALERT< i like Assassins Creed Brotherhood

Gamer1120 · Before February 2015

1. Depends on your opinion
2. Because of the flow?
3. Yes, you're probably lying
4. No, it's impossible to answer

Zoey2070 · Before February 2015

How the heck did I know you were going to mention the Ship of Theseus just by looking at the title?
Also, Locke's socks.
You have a pair of socks, they get a hole. You patch them, but there's another hole, so you patch them again. You keep on patching until there's no material of the original sock. Is it the same sock? Same idea, essencially.
2) You can't step into the same river twice

Yes you can.

3) If I say, "It's raining outside, but I don't believe it is" does that make sense to you?

Yes.

4) Answer this question: Is "No" the answer to this question?

Maybe.

Here's a paradox:
'THIS STATEMENT IS FALSE'

Buzzerbee · Before February 2015

Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness.
(1) Everyone is afraid of Dracula.

(2) Dracula is afraid of only me.

Therefore I am Dracula.

Last edited by BuzzerBee (Jun 4 2011 3:38:26 pm)

Pike270 · Before February 2015

1. It is simply a matter of titles and state of being. The original ship would always be called the Ship of Theseus. and the new Ship would have a new name (if it had one).

Since everything is made up of matter that could be tracked back to the Big Bang, everything is essentially made from the original energy/matter. Technically humans gave things titles. The ship would keep its title and therefore be the same ship. Not only that
Would you call yourself a "****" simply because there was a female dog that died, decomposed, its nutrients were absorbed by plants, and you ate a food product made from that plant. I don't think so because you already have a defined title (your name). Don't forget that matter and energy always moves hence things are always changing.

If you consider this from the point of Plutarch, the Greek historian, It would have been a mind boggling question due to the lack of technology then, now we can explain the problem with a definite answer.

2. Yes, The Greek philosopher Heracliltus did not understand that rivers are essentially made up of water molecules and that it is possible for one person to contact that same water molecule a second time. Lack of understanding of science

3. Yes it makes sense. "Bobithan is a moderator but I believe that he is not." I may have been told to tell someone that Bobithan is a moderator yet I would also add that I don't believe it myself.

4. Is no the answer to the question? The answer is ???? (< see that in Google translate).

Zoey's #5: Your statement could be interpreted as "This statement is not properly made since it is in all caps" see Dictionary.com's #9 definition of false.

BuzzerBee's sandwich: Using the word "better" bad in a paradox since better is just an opinion.

Buzzerbee''s Dracula. Everyone refers to human beings. Therefore you are not human. (See Dictionary.com's definition of "everyone" and "person"
^ Lol I have lots of time on my hands ^

Bobithan · Before February 2015

Here's what the river thing is about:

Shorty and Gamer are right

A river is not the land that makes up the river, the river is actually the water. So if you are being extremely exact, you cannot step into the same river twice. Sure you can chase the river flow but you still won't be in the exact H2O molecules that you were last time. Then, you can't step into the same river twice

Zoey2070 wrote:

How the heck did I know you were going to mention the Ship of Theseus just by looking at the title?

How the heck did I know that Zoey was going to be one of the first to reply to this topic?

Last edited by Bobithan (Jun 4 2011 4:26:40 pm)

JadElClemens · Before February 2015

But, just by a stroke of luck even, you can contact the same water molecule, but just somewhere else.

Pike270 · Before February 2015

Ah Bobithan you caught my inconstancy. After Dictionary.coming the meaning of river, I found that it has to be a large amount of water. Note that Heraclitus was referring to the smallest amount of water so this is not necessarily related to the original question.

1. The river is frozen, therefore you can step into it twice. Ice is still water no?

2. A river is a title given to a natural stream of water therefore you can step into the river
twice.

3. The river is dammed.

If I think of more I will "Edit Post".

coolio · Before February 2015

When was the last time you could step into ICE?

1. The same ship, reborn in bits and pieces.

2. you explained it already.

3. Yes. There is always rain outside somewhere in the world. If babies could talk, they could say this sentence.

3a. If someone had asked you a question.
"Do you think it's a bad day to go outside?"
"Is it a cloudy day today?" (If it's new england, you'll understand why the answer could be correct.)

4. Impossible. THAT is a true paradox.
MORE:
A man goes back in time and prevents his own father from being born.
A cat chases a mouse in circles. The mouse is actually chasing the cat.
Zoey's avatar: I have hypochrondria.
Buzzerbee: Those are physical impossibilities, not paradoxes.

XxAtillaxX · Before February 2015

Dr Michio Kaku: "There is also the paradox of the man who is own mother (my apologies to Heinlein.) ?Jane? is left at an orphanage as a foundling. When ?Jane? is a teenager, she falls in love with a drifter, who abandons her but leaves her pregnant. Then disaster strikes. She almost dies giving birth to a baby girl, who is then mysteriously kidnapped. The doctors find that Jane is bleeding badly, but, oddly enough, has both sex organs. So, to save her life, the doctors convert ?Jane? to ?Jim.?

?Jim? subsequently becomes a roaring drunk, until he meets a friendly bartender (actually a time traveler in disguise) who whisks ?Jim? back way into the past. ?Jim? meets a beautiful teenage girl, accidentally gets her pregnant with a baby girl. Out of guilt, he kidnaps the baby girl and drops her off at the orphanage. Later, ?Jim? joins the time travelers corps, leads a distinguished life, and has one last dream: to disguise himself as a bartender to meet a certain drunk named ?Jim? in the past."

Question: who is ?Jane's? mother, father, brother, sister, grand- father, grandmother, and grandchild?

Zoey2070 · Before February 2015

?tilla wrote:

Dr Michio Kaku: "There is also the paradox of the man who is own mother (my apologies to Heinlein.) ?Jane? is left at an orphanage as a foundling. When ?Jane? is a teenager, she falls in love with a drifter, who abandons her but leaves her pregnant. Then disaster strikes. She almost dies giving birth to a baby girl, who is then mysteriously kidnapped. The doctors find that Jane is bleeding badly, but, oddly enough, has both sex organs. So, to save her life, the doctors convert ?Jane? to ?Jim.?
?Jim? subsequently becomes a roaring drunk, until he meets a friendly bartender (actually a time traveler in disguise) who whisks ?Jim? back way into the past. ?Jim? meets a beautiful teenage girl, accidentally gets her pregnant with a baby girl. Out of guilt, he kidnaps the baby girl and drops her off at the orphanage. Later, ?Jim? joins the time travelers corps, leads a distinguished life, and has one last dream: to disguise himself as a bartender to meet a certain drunk named ?Jim? in the past."
Question: who is ?Jane's? mother, father, brother, sister, grand- father, grandmother, and grandchild?

Let's number these.
First Jane [orphan] = 1.
Teen Jane = 1.
Drifter = Jim, 2
Baby girl = 3.
Sexchange jane/jim = 4
Bartender = 5
Teenage girl = 6
Baby girl = 7
Jimbartender = 8
Okay.
1 = 3, 6, 7.
2 = 4, 5, 8
1 = 2
so 1 = 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
So the answer to the question is all 'Jane/Jim'.
Of course, I didn't have to explain it, but I did anyway.
This is why time travel isn't possible.

Last edited by Zoey2070 (Jun 4 2011 6:39:19 pm)

Chimi · Before February 2015

Here's one.
This sentence is a lie.

LightShadow · Before February 2015

Paradoxes?

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Gamer1120 · Before February 2015

Chimi wrote:

Here's one.
This sentence is a lie.

Is there cake in your sentence?

32OrtonEdge32dh · Before February 2015

That one you've been saying is impossible, the one about "Is the answer to this question 'No'?", it's possible.
Yes, the answer is no.

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