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Tim Tebow, an American football quarterback, is pretty famous for:
His pose (all my classmates do it in class, especially with a teacher who is a patiots fan, they play the patriots tonight)
Being religous
Wears, John 3:16 to a game on his eye glare (Huge Bible line), throws 316 yards in playoff game
Coming out of nowhere on a terrible team and, so far, almost to Finals.
Discuss
Tim Tebow, an American football quarterback, is pretty famous for:
His pose (all my classmates do it in class, especially with a teacher who is a patiots fan, they play the patriots tonight)
Being religous
Wears, John 3:16 to a game on his eye glare (Huge Bible line), throws 316 yards in playoff game
Coming out of nowhere on a terrible team and, so far, almost to Finals.
Discuss
That 316 yards thing is pretty cool. Hey, I have one for you, did you know that apparently back in November he threw 212 yards? He should wear that passage, too!
As for his pose, I wonder what Matthew 6:5 has to say about that.
Edit:
It seems that with his Anti-choice position on abortion and the rights of people over their own bodies, he might not be far off from wearing Timothy 2:12 anyway!
Last edited by Twipply (Jan 14 2012 4:48:24 pm)
How did I know you would say something like that? Listen, that's just a small side thing, I don't even like Tebow.
How did I know you would say something like that? Listen, that's just a small side thing, I don't even like Tebow.
It's my duty to those not as fortunate as I.
Seems that 43% of people in a poll believe his success is at least partly attributed to divine intervention! Do you think Tebow agrees? I sure hope not.
Here's another good one, 316 yards is equal to 948 feet. Do you think it's a message to those who believe god is intervening in an American football match instead of saving those in need?
Edit:
This just gets better.
Don't forget his faith pushing foundation.
Perhaps this potentially disturbing image also helps sum up what I think of him.
Last edited by Twipply (Jan 14 2012 5:22:04 pm)
No, Tebow has said many times over that he believes God has no part in competitions, which is correct according to the Christian faith. He thanks God for being God and making him what he is. What a terrible foundation; helping the needy like that... I don't think you know who that one line was directed too, or read directly to the right of the child birth one
Last edited by xputnameherex (Jan 14 2012 5:45:56 pm)
he believes God has no part in competitions
If that's the case, then that's good, although it leaves me wondering why he prays before a game if he thinks god has no part in its result.
I hope I've said enough to stop this thread before it even starts now, so maybe I should summarise:
I think he's a hypocritical **** with a few fairly decent, although misguided intentions that happens to be pretty good at American football.
What a terrible foundation; helping the needy like that...
I think after I specified "faith pushing", it was fairly clear what part of his foundation I don't like.
Last edited by Twipply (Jan 14 2012 5:53:29 pm)
He prays for no one to get hurt, a common practice. And this isn't only about the religous aspect. He;s a quarterback. The foundation doesn't matter why it was founded, or even iif it trys to spread the faith to those it helps, but the fact that it does help the needy is great.
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I'm confused, why would he not be able to live with himself? Pressure? 1xd1
Edit: He just got sack-fumbled.
Last edited by xputnameherex (Jan 14 2012 7:28:36 pm)
i think everyone needs to see this snl sketch.
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I'm confused, why would he not be able to live with himself? Pressure? 1xd1
No, making such a fool of himself. Probably just for publicity and money.
He's a disgrace to Christianity
Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
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Associating with Focus on the Family, another thing I don't like about him. Seemingly against gays, reason, and rights.
He's a disgrace to Christianity
Christianity holds no respect with me to be further disgraced.
xputnameherex wrote:Tim Tebow, an American football quarterback, is pretty famous for:
His pose (all my classmates do it in class, especially with a teacher who is a patiots fan, they play the patriots tonight)
Being religous
Wears, John 3:16 to a game on his eye glare (Huge Bible line), throws 316 yards in playoff game
Coming out of nowhere on a terrible team and, so far, almost to Finals.
Discuss
That 316 yards thing is pretty cool. Hey, I have one for you, did you know that apparently back in November he threw 212 yards? He should wear that passage, too!
As for his pose, I wonder what Matthew 6:5 has to say about that.
Edit:
It seems that with his Anti-choice position on abortion and the rights of people over their own bodies, he might not be far off from wearing Timothy 2:12 anyway!
This post is full of win and success.
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TakoMan02 wrote:He's a disgrace to Christianity
Christianity holds no respect with me to be further disgraced.
I've never seen a religious person as foolish as him.
You have? Who, might I ask? :0
Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
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Sorry for the late reply to you both.
I've never seen a religious person as foolish as him.
You have? Who, might I ask? :0
Christianity holds no respect with me because of what it is, not those who claim to practice it. I can respect christians themselves, but it depends a lot on what their own thoughts are on the matter. Those who try and fit their god into the currently unexplained are not as bad as those who are blind to reason. Having said that, I am somewhat sympathetic towards the young who are caught up in indoctrination.
I try not to follow the activities of the religious too closely, as it makes me a little sad at times, but this group comes to mind first of all.
This post is full of win and success.
Why thank you. Are you familiar with how some christians like to ignore the old testament and the horrible things it says, and focus on the new testament instead? Earlier today I learned that the infamous 1 Timothy 2:12 previously mentioned is actually found in the new testament. To think that some people actually follow this stuff is sickening.
Last edited by Twipply (Jan 16 2012 9:31:43 pm)
Tebow-mania it seems has come.As for Tim Tebow being religious, a lot of sports players are. The only real reason I can see for his religious aspects being noticed is because of the sudden interest in his physical ability. After he slips up, the interest will fall.
EDIT: Lol, and now that he's lost, interest will start declining.
Last edited by nothingishere2 (Jan 17 2012 5:40:04 pm)
That Timothy quote was completely valid for the time and culture.
That quote was never valid and never will be. Human rights are not there to be picked from or negotiated. We should all be equal in our rights, and all be good to one another with kindness, fairness, and compassion. To deny a group their rights in this way is prejudice, unjust, and should be beneath each and every one of us as inexcusable. When you try and explain away their evil like that, it makes you no better than them in my eyes. Unfortunately, I have a feeling the rest of your post is going to be of a similar nature.
As for the children being pushed into believing religious views, not a lot of religious families are as radical as that. If they want to change, but can't because they're too scared to ,then they don't want to change hard enough. I feel just as much sympathy to the people who grew up believing scientific theories that were believed to be law at the time, and choose not to accept their revised versions.
I need only look at the American currency and the pledge they recite to find examples of pushing. If I want a stronger example, I can look towards the south. Families are not the only ones that can indoctrinate the young. For example, the community, the government, the priest. While maybe not all children there are subjected to such things, the fact it happens to even one is too many.
There is a big different in the sympathy that we feel here. Yours is seemingly for people with evidence and facts laid out in front of them. No matter their choice, they can make it in an informed way without outside influence and control.
I am sympathetic to those indoctrinated into religion because of the following reasons. A powerful tool over the mind is that of fear, a tool the church and religions across the world wield to great effect. You can spend you life being told of the pain, suffering, and misery the heathens will endure for the rest of time simply for not being a part of the cult. Families and friendships are torn apart by the hate and prejudice incited in the religious towards the not. If isolation, despair, and loathing awaited me once I cast off your shackles of ignorance, I too may be afraid.
If you look at a whole religion based on one person, then you are being foolish.
I find looking at the religion itself is often enough for me to condemn it.
I could look at science through the work of one person, say Vladimir Demikhov, and say that they're all sick, twisted individuals with that reasoning.
Having just searched that name and realised who it belongs to, I fail to see why he's sick or twisted. Wikipedia describes him as a pioneer of organ transplants, something no doubt countless people across the world can be grateful for with their lives. He advanced mankind's knowledge of the body and medical procedures. His work, however peculiar it may seem, has been a positive influence on the world.
As to abortion, I disagree with it completely.
Oh dear.
Why kill something that hasn't done you harm?
1) You cannot kill that which does not have life.
2) Cases exist where abortion is medically advisable as to aid the mother's health.
3) Personal and financial reasons.
If you didn't want a baby, then you should have controlled your desires better.
1) You can get pregnant without having desires.
2) You can get pregnant without even having intercourse.
3) Wanting an abortion is not synonymous with not wanting your eventual child.
Now you're going to say, " What about rape?"
1) Yes, I am going to say that because it alone completely negates what you're saying.
If you didn't want bad things to happen to you then you should hide inside a windowless room and wait for your own end.
1) This does not necessarily stop bad things from happening to you.
2) An abortion can be medically advisable without anything bad otherwise happening to you.
3) An abortion can be personally preferable without anything bad happening to you.
Bad things will happen, that's life. It's not the baby's fault that it's being made.
1) The term you were looking for was, 'foetus'.
2) Don't try and defend a foetus from blame when none was given to it.
3) When life gives you lemons, you can make it take them back.
4) "That's life" is not justification for bad things happening when they could easily be prevented.
If you're going to comment on a large topic like Christianity, look over every aspect before doing so not just a couple of easy to manipulate verses from the Bible.
1) I need not know a mass murderer's middle name to know that he does bad things, and thus is a bad person.
2) I have manipulated no quotes, simply provided links to them in multiple editions of the bible.
You disgust me.
Now that I'm back...
Oh never mind, that is too much to go through, I'm also pretty sure that it is all completely off-topic. I see talk about abortion up there, and I will just say that abortion is ending a life, even if that life does not know it. I hate any ending of life, and therefore do not like abortion. That is not something that can be proven wrong. Anyway, I will finish my discussion here with this:
Ha! The Tebows just lost to the Patriots. Really hoping for another Giants Patriots Super Bowl, (Giants fan), so that we can beat them again. Thank God (hehe) Tebow is out. You've been misinterpreting this whole time, btw, I hate Tebow, but you attacked the Christian Faith, in a way.
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I will just say that abortion is ending a life, even if that life does not know it. I hate any ending of life, and therefore do not like abortion. That is not something that can be proven wrong.
The last meal I ate was once more alive and sentient than a great many foetuses before being aborted. If you condemn abortion for ending what you've arbitrarily decided is a life, it's hypocritical of you to live your life day to day in a way that condemns many more far greater creatures to potentially far more horrific deaths.
If you actually look up prenatal development you can see how insignificant and irrelevant the 'life' of the foetus truly is. It's a tumour and a parasite which leeches off its host.
The embryonic cells flatten into a disk, two cells thick.
There's one example for you. Now, tell me, since you condemn all abortion as the ending of a life, how is what's described alive? Do you feel the same disgust each time you wash your hands?
You've been misinterpreting this whole time, btw, I hate Tebow, but you attacked the Christian Faith, in a way.
If the christian faith does not want attacking, it can stop being pathetic. Also, I think I actually tried to keep my comments mainly to Tebow related things. I was not the one who brought up abortion, nor was I the one who came here to spewed my abhorrent beliefs into the thread.
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Keep the religion battles out of this thread, that isn't all that Tebow was about. Especially considering he lost to the Patriots.
The religion thread is here: http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?id=18992
Feel free to create a new one for abortion specifically if you don't feel it belongs with religion, but keep it away from there.
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