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Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

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1/10 people [] left-handed - are

one in ten people [] left-handed - either

one out of ten people [] left-handed - either

one person, out of ten, [] left-handed - is

at least one person in ten [] left-handed - is

I really don't see this going very far, I can't remember anything about word-structure I was taught in school, and a few of these are already finished. I think by the end of the page this will be over.

Last edited by GKAbyss (Apr 17 2012 2:27:53 pm)

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Google seems to think the two you left blank require an 'are'.
I don't know, it seems off either way to me.

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Shift

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

are, are, are, is, is

You can tell easily by the use of "people" vs "person."

Nailauri

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

First of all. Both of these are conjugations of the verb Be. Is, is used when the Noun that comes before the verb is in singular. While Are, is used while the Noun before the verb is in Plural. After that we have exeptions, Are doesn't always follow a Noun in plural. It can also follow Nouns in singular. Such as, "You are" Not "You is" So that makes You the singular conjunction of the Verb. It can be summarized like this.

I am.
You are.
He is.
She is.
It is.
They are.

The second conjugation will therefore always be Are, even if it's in singular.

I think there are a few other exeptions, will see if I can come up with them.

So in your examples, it should be Are. As we are referring to "People" and not a "person" Showing the singular and plural forms.

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

One person is
One out of ten is
One out of ten people are

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Muffy

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Oh yeah I found this I in your post GKAbyss,and I corrected it.What Shift said....

xputnameherex

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

I find this hilarious that you still think you are right.

In response to the only reason you were able to answer on the other thread:

So what, you're saying the "person" is an adjective? Lol.\

...and you still have 3 other reasons to answer to.

One more thing...

What grade are you in? (Not meant in a discriminative way)

Last edited by xputnameherex (Apr 13 2012 7:03:14 pm)

GKAbyss

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

I was saying that 1/10 is an adjective, I didn't say person was. I said that I supposed that one would imply person and that that it would be the same, but I'm not sure.

I'm in 11th
@muffinator you corrected my 1/10 post, and I admitted later you being right after I asked some people.

I'm not supposed to believe in something just because I don't have another answer to it, and the fact that there is a more credible source saying otherwise, if I remember right, then it is difficult to know what is correct.

xputnameherex

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

I was saying that 1/10 is an adjective, I didn't say person was. I said that I supposed that one would imply person and that that it would be the same, but I'm not sure.

I'm in 11th
@muffinator you corrected my 1/10 post, and I admitted later you being right after I asked some people.

I'm not supposed to believe in something just because I don't have another answer to it, and the fact that there is a more credible source saying otherwise, if I remember right, then it is difficult to know what is correct.

Find an answer from anybody, find an answer from your English teacher, your own mind, or one of the form members. Sadly, you won't be able to.

Also, what part of speech exactly do you think "people" is? An adjective? (No) A preposition? (No) A Subject? (Yes!)

GKAbyss

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

I was saying that 1/10 is an adjective, I didn't say person was. I said that I supposed that one would imply person and that that it would be the same, but I'm not sure.

I'm in 11th
@muffinator you corrected my 1/10 post, and I admitted later you being right after I asked some people.

I'm not supposed to believe in something just because I don't have another answer to it, and the fact that there is a more credible source saying otherwise, if I remember right, then it is difficult to know what is correct.

Find an answer from anybody, find an answer from your English teacher, your own mind, or one of the form members. Sadly, you won't be able to.

Also, what part of speech exactly do you think "people" is? An adjective? (No) A preposition? (No) A Subject? (Yes!)

people is a noun, something is not always a subject in every sentence if it is in it.
The subject of a sentence is what the verb refers to.
In at least "One person out of ten people is left-handed" "is" is referring to "person."

In "one in ten people [] left-handed" I'm pretty sure left-handed is referring to one.

xputnameherex

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

I was saying that 1/10 is an adjective, I didn't say person was. I said that I supposed that one would imply person and that that it would be the same, but I'm not sure.

I'm in 11th
@muffinator you corrected my 1/10 post, and I admitted later you being right after I asked some people.

I'm not supposed to believe in something just because I don't have another answer to it, and the fact that there is a more credible source saying otherwise, if I remember right, then it is difficult to know what is correct.

Find an answer from anybody, find an answer from your English teacher, your own mind, or one of the form members. Sadly, you won't be able to.

Also, what part of speech exactly do you think "people" is? An adjective? (No) A preposition? (No) A Subject? (Yes!)

people is a noun, something is not always a subject in every sentence if it is in it.
The subject of a sentence is what the verb refers to.
In at least "One person out of ten people is left-handed" "is" is referring to "person."

In "one in ten people [] left-handed" I'm pretty sure left-handed is referring to one.

Sure, there can be more than one noun in a sentence, but not before the verb.

And you're pretty sure? Tell me when you're sure, because you are wrong, left-handed refers to people. "one" does not mean "person" in this sense, but is rather an adjective (number) describing "people"

GKAbyss

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Find an answer from anybody, find an answer from your English teacher, your own mind, or one of the form members. Sadly, you won't be able to.

Also, what part of speech exactly do you think "people" is? An adjective? (No) A preposition? (No) A Subject? (Yes!)

people is a noun, something is not always a subject in every sentence if it is in it.
The subject of a sentence is what the verb refers to.
In at least "One person out of ten people is left-handed" "is" is referring to "person."

In "one in ten people [] left-handed" I'm pretty sure left-handed is referring to one.

Sure, there can be more than one noun in a sentence, but not before the verb.

And you're pretty sure? Tell me when you're sure, because you are wrong, left-handed refers to people. "one" does not mean "person" in this sense, but is rather an adjective (number) describing "people"

I cannot simply just take that as the answer when I'm hearing so many conflicting ideas. My English teacher said that you use is in "one in ten people [] left-handed"(if I asked the right question), and people here are saying it's are, and when I search for this online I'm seeing people say different things about it. I'm going to ask again on monday to make sure I guess, and for reasoning etc to post here.

Last edited by GKAbyss (Apr 13 2012 7:48:55 pm)

xputnameherex

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Ask your teacher again. Be clear about it.

EDIT: Also, find me where on the internet it says such a thing for your side.

Last edited by xputnameherex (Apr 13 2012 7:50:44 pm)

GKAbyss

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Actually, I could probably send an email tomorrow, and k.

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

I am.
You are.
He is.
She is.
It is.
They are.

You forgot "We are." Although that's hardly relevant here.

Nailauri

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Oh my bad there, well I still proved my point.

xputnameherex

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

I am.
You are.
He is.
She is.
It is.
They are.

You forgot "We are." Although that's hardly relevant here.

And Vo...oh God...

Too much Spanish dammit.

Nailauri

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Haha, Spanish.

I'm guessing that you thought.

Yo.
Tu.
Él/Ella/Ello/Usted.
Nosotros.
Vosotros.
Ellos/Ellas/Ustedes.

Hehe, we have that in Swedish as well. The personal pronoun "Vosotros", or "Ni" In swedish. But in english that would be "You"

xputnameherex

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Haha, Spanish.

I'm guessing that you thought.

Yo.
Tu.
Él/Ella/Ello/Usted.
Nosotros.
Vosotros.
Ellos/Ellas/Ustedes.

Hehe, we have that in Swedish as well. The personal pronoun "Vosotros", or "Ni" In swedish. But in english that would be "You"

Yeah, the only time I ever actually put anything into that type of format it's when I'm conjugating into Spanish, and when I saw the above, I thought, "Hey, that's missing 2nd Person Plural." So yeah.

Gaming_Guy

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Someone get Twipply! I think both of them need to be are.

Nailauri

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Haven't we already explained it all clearly enough? I could always qoute my own post to make it even clearer.

If it is in Plural it should always be are, if it is in Singular it should be is. But the exeption is for "You". As You is in Singular but it should still be followed by are.

So in his examples it should be Are and not Is. As People is in Plural, which makes it Are. Would it have been Person, which is in Singular it should have been Is.

Twipply

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Someone get Twipply!

English matters rarely interest me enough to warrant a reply.

Haven't we already explained it all clearly enough?

I like you.

GKAbyss

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Haven't we already explained it all clearly enough? I could always qoute my own post to make it even clearer.

If it is in Plural it should always be are, if it is in Singular it should be is. But the exeption is for "You". As You is in Singular but it should still be followed by are.

So in his examples it should be Are and not Is. As People is in Plural, which makes it Are. Would it have been Person, which is in Singular it should have been Is.

The question is whether "one" or "people" is the subject.

xputnameherex

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

Someone get Twipply! I think both of them need to be are.

We actually really didn't need him. This is the easiest argument for me to win out of all the ones I've gotten into. There's no reason it's still going on.

Nailauri

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Re: Is vs Are discussion[stemmed from left/right hand topic]

The question is whether "one" or "people" is the subject.

People is the subject as it is what "controlls" the verb. The verb revolves around People, and conjugates according to that. "One" doesn't have any inpact on how the verb shall be conjugated and changed.

But what word is the subject doesn't matter in this question. What matters is Singular and Plural.
If you know this.

I am.
You are.
He/She/It is.
We are.
You are.
They are.

Then it doesn't matter what the subject is. Because you know which conjugation shall be in Singular or Plural. That's all that is relevant.

Last edited by Nailauri (Apr 14 2012 12:30:39 pm)