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Breadfinn

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Re: Chick-Fil-A & Gay Rights

But for those of you who say something like "gay people are born gay", God would never make someone born against his word. He doesn't want this to happen.

And how would you know that? You are against gay people. You don't know how it's like to be them. And um no, I am not... um, homosexual if you're starting to think that. But at least I believe them when every each of them have to say. Other than you. You speak against them and refuse to believe them, because the "Bible" said so.

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MaxDG/MXIII

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If you say that because the Bible states that homosexuality is wrong means that it's true, I guess you're all for slavery too.
Times have changed, face it.

Drew12345

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imo chick-fil-a was never very tasty anyways

Raiden

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Okay, I have lost all repect for anyone who is Christian and hates on gays because God said so. I have two thing to say.

1. If God is perfect, and does everything right, and if Gays are a mistake (which they're not), then why did God bring them here in the first place?

2. Saying that God hates gays because the bible said so is like saying Spider Man is real because a Spider Man comic had him in it.

(=.=") Gays ftw, haters ftl.

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soccerfreak006

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Okay, I have lost all repect for anyone who is Christian and hates on gays because God said so. I have two thing to say.

1. If God is perfect, and does everything right, and if Gays are a mistake (which they're not), then why did God bring them here in the first place?

2. Saying that God hates gays because the bible said so is like saying Spider Man is real because a Spider Man comic had him in it.

(=.=") Gays ftw, haters ftl.

1. Yes god is perfect, the devil was the one who taught the people to be gay.

2. If it is wrong, then why would God not go against it?
God doesn't hate gays, it is what they have done to themselves

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Raiden

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Okay, I have lost all repect for anyone who is Christian and hates on gays because God said so. I have two thing to say.

1. If God is perfect, and does everything right, and if Gays are a mistake (which they're not), then why did God bring them here in the first place?

2. Saying that God hates gays because the bible said so is like saying Spider Man is real because a Spider Man comic had him in it.

(=.=") Gays ftw, haters ftl.

1. Yes god is perfect, the devil was the one who taught the people to be gay.

2. If it is wrong, then why would God not go against it?
God doesn't hate gays, it is what they have done to themselves

Can't argue against 1.

2.Fine, let me rephrase. "Saying that you hate gays because the bible told you to is like saying that you hate oranges because the "Anti-Orange Troll Book" told you to." >_<

Edit: Do you even know what you're saying? You said Devils made people gay. Then you said that Gays have become gay because they chose to. I cannot comprehend people when they are idiotic enough to contradict themselves.

Edit 2: Also, you said, "If it is wrong, then why would God not go against it?" This brings me back to my point. You say it is wrong because the Bible told you it was wrong. Then, once again, I say this again, "Saying that you hate gays because the bible told you to is like saying that you hate oranges because the "Anti-Orange Troll Book" told you to."

Edit 3: I enjoy editing But, I suggest you read this comic: theoatmeal.com/comics/religion

Emphasis on the line in the comic, "Do you constantly try to validate your beliefs by forcing others to believe the same thing?"

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Breadfinn

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1. Yes god is perfect, the devil was the one who taught the people to be gay.

This kid just isn't going to figure out that he's not getting anywhere.

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Raiden

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1. Yes god is perfect, the devil was the one who taught the people to be gay.

This kid just isn't going to figure out that he's not getting anywhere.

Agreed. :3

soccerfreak006

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I guess I ain't getting anywhere close to hellish places.

Raiden

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I guess I ain't getting anywhere close to hellish places.

What.The.Fudge That has nothing to do with the argument at hand.

Bash

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Okay, I have lost all repect for anyone who is Christian and hates on gays because God said so. I have two thing to say.

1. If God is perfect, and does everything right, and if Gays are a mistake (which they're not), then why did God bring them here in the first place?

2. Saying that God hates gays because the bible said so is like saying Spider Man is real because a Spider Man comic had him in it.

(=.=") Gays ftw, haters ftl.

1. Yes god is perfect, the devil was the one who taught the people to be gay.

2. If it is wrong, then why would God not go against it?
God doesn't hate gays, it is what they have done to themselves

Being homosexual myself, I have only one question:

If the devil taught me to be gay, and I did this to myself by choosing to be gay, doesn't that actually make people who are gay the devil?

That would explain all of your hatred, so many devils are running around (even though there is only one, no?)!   I respect your choice to follow the bible, despite the fact that your beliefs may clash with mine.   I'll leave you with this section from it to to remember, as you wouldn't want to disobey what it says:

At that time, Judah left his brothers and went down to stay with a man of Adullam named Hirah. There Judah met the daughter of a Canaanite man named Shua. He married her and made love to her; she became pregnant and gave birth to a son, who was named Er. She conceived again and gave birth to a son and named him Onan. She gave birth to still another son and named him Shelah. It was at Kezib that she gave birth to him.
Judah got a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the LORD's sight; so the LORD put him to death.
Then Judah said to Onan, "Sleep with your brother's wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother." But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so the LORD put him to death also.

On topic though, I agree with the decision of the mayor.

ThuggishPrune

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I really just hope this topic is closed. it's just becoming hateful and away from the chik fil a argument.

And I'm hoping arguing or discussion of religion is banned on the forum. all it does it cause hate.

krubby

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I guess I ain't getting anywhere close to hellish places.

if there is a real, loving god, he'd send you straight towards hell for being such an ****. except because he's a loving god, he'd probably just give you a timeout. and why does god care so much about gays?

ThuggishPrune

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and why does god care so much about gays?

"Because a woman ate from the tree of forbidden-ness she and all women have to suffer through child birth. God is just angry someone found a loophole in the system" - Jim Gaffigan

Not the exact thing but you still get the point.

Jaybm

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and why does god care so much about gays?

"Because a woman ate from the tree of forbidden-ness she and all women have to suffer through child birth. God is just angry someone found a loophole in the system" - Jim Gaffigan

Not the exact thing but you still get the point.

God doesn't care about gays so much. Society is the one that makes it a big issue. There are tons and tons of "morals" (whether you think they are right or wrong) listed in the bible, that is just one of them.

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Alex

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it's good to note that regardless of your stance on gay marriage, chic fil a supports discrimination of basically everyone besides white men, they've fired women so that said women can "take care of their children" instead of work

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If Jesus said "Love thy neighbor," why can't he and the devil join hands and sing songs?

soccerfreak006 and xputnameherex, you might want to consider joining this church.

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soccerfreak006

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God doesn't care so much about gays, but gays are forcing their rights on us.
ortonedge: you know that Satan was once an angel? he wanted more power, as much as god. God said no, and Satan went dark, with 1/3 of angels in heaven.

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Alex

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God doesn't care so much about gays, but gays are forcing their rights on us.
ortonedge: you know that Satan was once an angel? he wanted more power, as much as god. God said no, and Satan went dark, with 1/3 of angels in heaven.

How does getting married force anything on anyone besides those involved?

Also, depending on your interpretation, Satan, Lucifer, and "the devil" can all be different people(creatures?)

lucifer didn't want more power, he was jealous of man, he felt that god was saying "you're not good enough for me, so I want something else", however many fellow angels agreed, which is pretty fair if you believe the story up to that point

Also, if not for lucifer's actions man would not have critical thinking which I'm not sure how that's a bad thing at all.

Also, also, why is the person who punishes the wicked considered evil? If he was evil and hated god and advocated sin and wrongdoing, would he not make hell a sort of paradise as a big "screw you" to god?

Also, also, also(and less tangential than the above) the "rules" of the old testament were so people, before salvation could be "clean" in order to get into heaven before the prophesied savior would come, jews cover their heads, don't eat pork, don't work on saturated, don't have gay sex, etc to keep themselves "clean". Christians believe that Jesus WAS the prophesied savior, and that he saved man from damnation, by believing they were saved, they were, that is why Christians do not wear yamakas, can eat pork, and many other things. By saying gays are unholy is indirectly saying jesus was not the son of christ

And REGARDLESS of whether or not you think gays are 'sinful' it's none of your business to impede on their rights? That's bigotry to the extreme to think otherwise. I dislike when someone dresses like a gang member, but that's not justification for me to try to make dressing like that illegal.

AND TO KEEP THE MAIN POINT OF THE TOPIC
purely from a business standpoint I think the CEO of cfa is pretty stupid. It's unwise for an owner of a big company with loyal costumers on both sides of the debate to take a side. The CEO of mcdonalds could hate all gays and want to send them all to concentration camps, but he's not going to make this opinion public because he likes money

Shift

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Okay, I've learned enough to make an educated decision. Although we might agree that the CEO of chick-fil-a is wrong, he has a right to state his beliefs, and, therefore, the mayor is the main oppressor, here.

it's good to note that regardless of your stance on gay marriage, chic fil a supports discrimination of basically everyone besides white men, they've fired women so that said women can "take care of their children" instead of work

Ohh no, please don't. We could make a whole new thread about segregation, and I could post my eleven page essay on the topic, or we could just agree that that system is totally... messed up.

Tako

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If you haven't yet seen ZJ's video, I'd recommend it. :>

First in line was the distancing: Chick-fil-A didn't donate to anti-gay groups, they just donated to another group that gave money to anti-gay groups. So of course they didn't see a problem with this, given that their brains can't follow a moving object. Then came the minimizing - they had to find a way to pretend that groups like Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council aren't really anti-gay. Many people insisted that it wouldn't be accurate to call them "hate groups", as if whether or not we call them hate groups would do anything to change the reality of what they've actually done. These groups think anti-bullying programs are "pro-homosexual curriculum", they're officially opposed to any legal recognition of gay relationships, and they've even recommended making it illegal to be gay. But hey, at least it isn't hateful to take people's rights away! That makes it so much better.

And if your ethics can be bought for the price of a chicken sandwich - a sandwich that you paid for - you don't get to call them ethics. If you really care about people's rights, fried food should count for exactly nothing next to that. The very thought of making such a comparison should repulse any decent person.

Okay, I've learned enough to make an educated decision. Although we might agree that the CEO of chick-fil-a is wrong, he has a right to state his beliefs, and, therefore, the mayor is the main oppressor, here.

You're missing a very very vital puzzle piece here: Chick-Fil-A (namely Mr. Dan Cathy) is not spending his millions of dollars on pool maintenance. He is supporting anti-gay groups, who, as mentioned, have suggested things as wild as making it illegal to be homosexual. This is the definition of "oppressive"; if you have the slightest doubt I'd be glad to get a source or two for you.

Let's pretend you're the Mayor of Chicago. The CEO of McDonalds (Mr. Don Thompson) reveals he has been donating millions of dollars each year to Neo-Nazi groups. Then they show interest in putting a couple more McDonald's in the city of Chicago. What would you do in this situation?

Would you completely sever the opinion of the CEO with the business, or intertwine the two? They're connected, right? So for that reason, it's not right to say you're the oppressor for saying no to McDonalds. You're preventing the oppressor from gaining more power, and I think you think it's oppressing the oppressor, which is a misunderstanding.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

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Too many small mistakes to count, but I completely agree with the intended point.

Alex

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I really just hope this topic is closed. it's just becoming hateful and away from the chik fil a argument.

albeit a little hypocritical on my part, lets move this topic away from 'bible this' and such tangential topics and move more towards the chick-fil-a topic

like I sad before chic-fil-a does discriminate on hiring and a lot of respectable editorialists have described the behavior of their management less like a business and more like a cult

chik-fil-a's ceo should have the right to support whatever they want, but he also has the right to experience a public backlash because of said support

Raiden

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^ I apologize, this will probably get me a warning, but sometimes, I choose to be an idiot and continue enjoyable but banned arguments.

soccerfreak006
God doesn't care so much about gays, but gays are forcing their rights on us.

What. The. F*ck. How does that even make sense? "hurr de hurr i cnt sink of daaaaaa reson so i make fak one hahahahahahahahha." >_< Gays never forced their right on you. Some might, but not necessarily all of them. In fact, gays probably don't force their right, but fanatic gays/radical gay-right believers might. The reason people might persuade you to accept them is because they're hated on, and only scum of the earth hate on gays.

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Kirby

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where have i heard this "did you know satan was once an angel?"

oh yes, if i am correct, batman.

lets all relate this to batman