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#26 Before February 2015

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I am the one and only!! wrote:

Swimming Is NOT A SPORT. It is an Athletic. 0_0

LOL the naivety of the non swimmer..
Swimming is most definitely a sport. I'd like to see football players do our warmup..

Oh my, that just **** me the **** off

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#27 Before February 2015

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i guess i'll have to reveal my location to have this make sense. here in san francisco, robot fighting is a HUGE thing. it's like dog fighting only it's about the skill of the person who owns the robot, and it doesn't destroy soul and make you a horrible person.

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#28 Before February 2015

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Good one here,

Ultimate Frisbee

It was actually made into a league in the US about two months ago.

What is your say on this?

#29 Before February 2015

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32OrtonEdge32dh wrote:

I'm gonna stop reading this topic just because it seems like NO ONE can differentiate between the two lists.


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#30 Before February 2015

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Hunting is a sport. It's not debatable and it is a sport, so it doesn't even belong in the topic.


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#31 Before February 2015

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Shift wrote:
Jaybm wrote:

If A 15 year old who has never played soccer before, tries to kick a ball for the first time, he might shank it yeah. But after 3 or 4 kicks, I'm sure he could manage to make decent contact.

I think you're forgetting that, unlike golf, soccer is more than just hitting the ball once, unless your version of the game consists solely of PKs, making for a very un-soccer-like game. Go play a game against people who know what they're doing, and see if you still think it's easy.

Jaybm wrote:

If A 15 year old who has never played golf before, and tries to hit a ball for the first time, he would likely shank it. But then after 2 or 4 shot's he would STILL be shanking it. It can take month(s) of practice until you finally can consistently hit good shots.

Same goes for soccer, especially when you add the word "consistently."

The point is that, hitting a good golf shot first time playing, is less likely than hitting a good soccer shot on your first time playing.

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In terms of actual work, soccer probably takes more energy, but that doesn't make it anymore difficult.

Er, it kinda does. Do you think you'll still be playing your best after running nonstop for fifty minutes?

Again, when I mean hardness, I'm talking about difficulty learning, mostly. But, same thing applies to golf. You won't be playing your best after 18 holes, especially when walking nonstop for around 5 hours.

@32OrtonEdge32dh Just because you stopped reading doesn't mean we have to stop posting, unless you request the topic to be closed. By the way. the differentiation between the two lists is irrelevant, we are discussing what should and should not be on it, which you seem to be simply ignoring, and staying stubborn to your own bias views.

#32 Before February 2015

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I think one debatable sport is horse-riding; the horse does more work than you do.The Kentucky derby is more about the horses, so it is pretty ridiculous for us to consider them.

#33 Before February 2015

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Different55 wrote:

Hunting is a sport. It's not debatable and it is a sport, so it doesn't even belong in the topic.

Shooting animals that didn't do anything to you =/= sport.


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#34 Before February 2015

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32Orthonedge32dh wrote:

Swim (I think it is)

It's because you never swam as fast as you can for more than 1h30, minutes, like I do everynight! Hehehe...

#35 Before February 2015

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Fail topic. Define sport.

#36 Before February 2015

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of … _of_sports

Definition of sport by google : An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others.
Oxford dictionary basically has the same definition but it adds : 'for entertainment'
I would say Golf is a sport because it's something where countries sometimes compete, but everything else on that list imo is about right for it not really being a sport, but an activity that requires some sort of skill I guess? OH you should add shopping to the 'not really sport' section, you know... walking around in heels for hours carrying bags is quite exhausting! :3

As for the debatable sports I would say swimming definitely is a sport, but others I wouldn't be too sure about calling them a sport...
Just my humble opinion I suppose!

#37 Before February 2015

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Arceus64 wrote:

Good one here,

Ultimate Frisbee

It was actually made into a league in the US about two months ago.

What is your say on this?

Product Placement, is product placement.

First of all it's been around for like two years, at least (my school has had a team for two years. Secondly, it's called "Ultimate" not "Ultimate Frisbee" which is the name of the company of the Frisbee that is used.

As for whoever asked if skiing was a sport:

Yes. Can't you practice literally any other sport by yourself?

#38 Before February 2015

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^ Yep, both of them are clearly sports.

Jaybm wrote:

The point is that, hitting a good golf shot first time playing, is less likely than hitting a good soccer shot on your first time playing.

The difference is, golf is solely that one shot (for each hole). Soccer, on the other hand, is a hell of a lot more than that one kick.

Jaybm wrote:

You won't be playing your best after 18 holes, especially when walking nonstop for around 5 hours.

Now I'm not a golfer, but from what I've seen of professionals (admittedly very little) and of country clubs, the golfer doesn't walk more than a few feet to and from the golf cart, a caddy carries all his stuff, and the golfer doesn't have to put very much strength into hitting the tiny golf ball.

I'm sure golf has its strains, but to say that it's the hardest sport is a bit hasty.

And DKLevels: We're not arguing whether golf is a sport, we're arguing whether it's the HARDEST sport.

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#39 Before February 2015

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32OrtonEdge32dh wrote:

I'm gonna stop reading this topic just because it seems like NO ONE shares my opinions.

FTFY.

Arceus64 wrote:

Good one here,

Ultimate Frisbee

It was actually made into a league in the US about two months ago.

What is your say on this?

Sport.


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#40 Before February 2015

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Shift wrote:

The difference is, golf is solely that one shot (for each hole). Soccer, on the other hand, is a hell of a lot more than that one kick.

Golf is more than one shot. Not to mention, every club has to be swung in a different way.

Shift wrote:

Now I'm not a golfer, but from what I've seen of professionals (admittedly very little) and of country clubs, the golfer doesn't walk more than a few feet to and from the golf cart, a caddy carries all his stuff,

Yea, well, people who just play golf as a hobbie, ride golf carts (or have some sort of medical handicap) as well as many other people when just playing for fun. Only rich people and professionals have caddies. Pretty much everyone else walk (including people playing in tournaments) the course with their clubs on their back during golf. (I know I do.)

Shift wrote:

the golfer doesn't have to put very much strength into hitting the tiny golf ball.

One shot? No. One kick of the soccer ball? No.

All I know is, after 30 minutes at the golfing range, I'm exhausted.

#41 Before February 2015

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Here I fixed your horrible list:

Sports That Aren't Sports:              
Boating
Poker
Pool
Arm Wrestling
Spelling Bee
Darts
Competitive Eating
Chess
Online Gaming
Ping Pong
Sports:     
Curling
Bull Riding/Rodeo           
Gymnastics
Golf
Bowling
Figure Skating
Dance
Running
Swimming
(all those other ones, soccer, American football, tennis, volleyball, baseball, basketball, rugby, etc...)

Other:
Ice Dancing - Wtf is that
Rhythm Gymnastics - Wtf is that
Car racing - Depends
Hunting - Not a sport per se, but kinda (in my opinion it is)
Fishing - ^read above^
Marathon Walking - Depends

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#42 Before February 2015

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Shift wrote:

^ Yep, both of them are clearly sports.

Jaybm wrote:

The point is that, hitting a good golf shot first time playing, is less likely than hitting a good soccer shot on your first time playing.

The difference is, golf is solely that one shot (for each hole). Soccer, on the other hand, is a hell of a lot more than that one kick.

Jaybm wrote:

You won't be playing your best after 18 holes, especially when walking nonstop for around 5 hours.

Now I'm not a golfer, but from what I've seen of professionals (admittedly very little) and of country clubs, the golfer doesn't walk more than a few feet to and from the golf cart, a caddy carries all his stuff, and the golfer doesn't have to put very much strength into hitting the tiny golf ball.

I'm sure golf has its strains, but to say that it's the hardest sport is a bit hasty.

And DKLevels: We're not arguing whether golf is a sport, we're arguing whether it's the HARDEST sport.

Golf is a ton of shots, and you usually never use golf carts. And only Rich people have caddies.

Now, to say that Golf is the hardest sport: Eh. It's tough. I wouldn't say so though. Put someone who's never skated before on skates and players from the NHL on two separate teams, it would be hilarious to watch. Do the same thing with Golf, and yeah, the people who had never played before would be terrible, but not nearly as wide of a gap as in something like Hockey.

I'm a golfer.

#43 Before February 2015

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Shift wrote:

And DKLevels: We're not arguing whether golf is a sport, we're arguing whether it's the HARDEST sport.

My post was based of the OP where it just basically said that Golf isn't really a sport, so I just wrote my take on it, lol
It basically had nothing to do with your argument cause I didn't really bother to read other posts :3

BUT since you introduced the topic now to me I would have to say Golf is nowhere near the hardest sport since hitting the ball does require some sort of strength but not as much as other sports...

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#44 Before February 2015

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JadElClemens wrote:
32OrtonEdge32dh wrote:

I'm gonna stop reading this topic just because it seems like NO ONE shares my opinions.

FTFY.

Actually, no.   It's not that people didn't share my opinions, why would I open a topic specifically FOR debate if I didn't encourage it?   I only stopped reading the topic because people couldn't tell the difference between the two lists and assumed incorrectly that I meant every sport in the topic was not a sport.   The sports on debatable sports obviously show my opinion next to it.


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#45 Before February 2015

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DK Levels wrote:

BUT since you introduced the topic now to me I would have to say Golf is nowhere near the hardest sport since hitting the ball does require some sort of strength but not as much as other sports...

It's not about strength, nearly at all. It's about technique. You can be the strongest person in the world, but if you haven't played golf before, you won't even make it to the fairway.

#46 Before February 2015

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^Same goes for every sport; a pro golfer may be great at golf, but fail at soccer, swimming, football, etc.

Jaybm wrote:

Golf is more than one shot. Not to mention, every club has to be swung in a different way.

Shift wrote:

(for each hole)

Jaybm wrote:

Yea, well, people who just play golf as a hobbie, ride golf carts (or have some sort of medical handicap) as well as many other people when just playing for fun. Only rich people and professionals have caddies. Pretty much everyone else walk (including people playing in tournaments) the course with their clubs on their back during golf. (I know I do.)

Eh, they're still walking at their own pace. It's basically just an ordinary hike, with tee breaks. Hiking for a few hours, or sprinting for 90 minutes?

Jaybm wrote:

One shot? No. One kick of the soccer ball? No.

You obviously don't play soccer. Now, to extend the principle to other sports, do you deny that a stroke requires strength from the swimmer?

Jaybm wrote:

All I know is, after 30 minutes at the golfing range, I'm exhausted.

As opposed to every other sport, in which you put in an insane amount of effort and never break a sweat. (Yes, that was sarcasm).
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Again, golf is clearly a sport, but I certainly wouldn't say it's the hardest. I'm not a golfer, so I can't know how hard it is, but I'm also not a swimmer, quarterback, pointguard, figure skater, gymnast, etc. Unless you are all of those things and more, then you can't possibly know if golf is the hardest sport.

#47 Before February 2015

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xputnameherex wrote:
DK Levels wrote:

BUT since you introduced the topic now to me I would have to say Golf is nowhere near the hardest sport since hitting the ball does require some sort of strength but not as much as other sports...

It's not about strength, nearly at all. It's about technique. You can be the strongest person in the world,

That really wasn't my point, basically I was just saying that it isn't the hardest sport because it doesn't require much strength, yes it requires skill, I know that obviously ^^ I was just pointing out one of the attributes you need to play golf cause I pretty much have no muscle and I tried golfing for fun   and I got no where

but if you haven't played golf before, you won't even make it to the fairway.

As shift said, same for any sport...

If you consider Gymnastics a sport, golf is no where near as hard as Gymnastics ...
Who was it that said golf is a hard sport in the first place o_o curious about the origin of this topic...

#48 Before February 2015

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Shift wrote:

^Same goes for every sport; a pro golfer may be great at golf, but fail at soccer, swimming, football, etc.

But not in such a large degree as it does golf, because it doesn't require strength and any form of knowledge you have from other sports, doesn't help much.

Do you think the strongest man in the world, could only throw a football a few feet? No. But here is the difference that makes golf's challenge unique. Do you think the strongest man in the world could only hit the golf ball a few feet? Yes, because its contact first, then speed.

Before you say something about accuracy, same applies for golf.

Shift wrote:

(for each hole)

Each hole requires more than one shot, unless you get a hole in one.

Shift wrote:

Eh, they're still walking at their own pace.

In (almost all) tournaments, you are timed. Even golf courses require you to go at a certain pace so the other golfers don't get backed up.

It's basically just an ordinary hike, with tee breaks. Hiking for a few hours, or sprinting for 90 minutes?

Shift wrote:

You obviously don't play soccer.

I used to play soccer as my "main" sport, but quit, although I still play it. I know, saying soccer is one kick is absolutely stupid, but its equal to saying golf is just one shot. I'm just comparing apples to apples here.

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Now, to extend the principle to other sports, do you deny that a stroke requires strength from the swimmer?

No...? What exactly is your point here? Golf isn't about strength. Strength =/= difficulty. If it did, then mountain climbing would probably win (if that qualifies as a sport...) I would never say golf requires the most strength, because it obviously doesn't. I'm not that stupid.

Shift wrote:

As opposed to every other sport, in which you put in an insane amount of effort and never break a sweat. (Yes, that was sarcasm).

I wasn't implying that it didn't.

Shift wrote:

Unless you are all of those things and more, then you can't possibly know if golf is the hardest sport.

Well no, but that doesn't mean I haven't tried all of those sports.

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If you determine hardness by strength, then fine, golf looses. But by technical difficulty, it wins. It is really a matter of weather you think the technical difficulty of golf, overcomes strength. In my opinion, it does.

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DK Levels wrote:

Who was it that said golf is a hard sport in the first place

Ortonedge said that golf only required some skill, and I said that some sources claim golf to be one of the hardest sports.

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#49 Before February 2015

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32OrtonEdge32dh wrote:
Different55 wrote:

Hunting is a sport. It's not debatable and it is a sport, so it doesn't even belong in the topic.

Shooting animals that didn't do anything to you =/= sport.

It's not revenge. I do it to eat. Without those deer gleefully leaping in front of my bullet I wouldn't have half the delicious, lean meat I eat today.

Thank you for your donation, deer (and other assorted animals). In honor of you, your death will be considered a sport for time and all eternity. A SPORT IN HONOR OF OUR MEALS. And in honor of the sport we will feast.

Hunting is no different from raising animals to kill them except the hunted ones live their lives in the wild and they are free and much more tasty and less fatty than animals raised.

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#50 Before February 2015

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i wrote:

I'm just wondering: Is skiing a sport? 'cause xputnameherex said that sports need at least 2 people to play, and I thought skiing could be done with one person.

I guess nobody saw this...

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