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#1 Before February 2015

LD3H
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Time Travelling.

I just thought about that: It won't be possible to travel through time, ever. Think of: Why did nobody from the future visit us? Why nobody prevented the 2nd world war by killing Hitler secretly? Why did Tschernobyl happen, why didn't it was prevented? Why isn't the world a simple chaotic thing because of the time travels and future changes?

I could continue this list, but now tell what YOU think.

#2 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

Because things that happen don't change. It is impossible to change the past when time traveling, because you already were in the past; everything you did already happened at that time in the past. In fact, in the same way we aren't actually changing anything when we do anything in the present either; the future is also just as set, the state of the universe is different from your perspective, but it has not changed, your consciousness has simply gone forward in time and sees the universe as it is then.

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#3 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

LD3H wrote:

Why nobody prevented the 2nd world war by killing Hitler secretly?

I'm just going to use this example If you kill hitler and WW2 never happens then in the future you would have no reason to go back in time and kill Hitler but then he would be born and you'd go back in time but   If you kill hitler and WW2 never happens then in the future you would have no reason to go back in time and kill Hitler but then he would be born and you'd go back in time but If you kill hitler and WW2 never happens then in the future you would have no reason to go back in time and kill Hitler but then he would be born and you'd go back in time but If you kill hitler and WW2 never happens then in the future you would have no reason to go back in time and kill Hitler but then he would be born and you'd go back in time but If you kill hitler and WW2 never happens then in the future you would have no reason to go back in time and kill Hitler but then he would be born and you'd go back in time.

You see? Maybe going back in time for random fun is fine but you can't tamper with the past because it's impossible to do it without creating a paradox

#4 Before February 2015

Arceus64
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Re: Time Travelling.

Time travel would screw everything up.

By breaking the fragile rubber band of time-existence, rewriting history would be extremely dangerous, preventing such catastrophes such as 9/11 and the Aurora shooting would be good, but in a sense, flawed.

If we didn't know who Osama was and killed him, we wouldn't have know all sort of other things about Al-Qaeda that would eventually lead to the discovery of planning of mass terror attacks, taking down other highly regarded leaders, and other sorts of things.

Sometimes it's best if we let things happen, because we can learn from those sort of mistakes and make better in the future.

That's my perspective, at least.

#5 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

Or maybe they dont time travel because of the in need of the huge amount of energy that would be needed to suck in. You would kill 5000 people to save only 1.

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#6 Before February 2015

LD3H
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Re: Time Travelling.

ChaosDemon wrote:
LD3H wrote:

Why nobody prevented the 2nd world war by killing Hitler secretly?

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You see? Maybe going back in time for random fun is fine but you can't tamper with the past because it's impossible to do it without creating a paradox

Yes but you see Hitler was not killed, the second World War did happen, why do we learn that at school? So Time travelling is impossible.

#7 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

Maybe they time traveled and made us survive even more chaotic events. Maybe we were there when dinosaurs existed and we would die too, but somehow they saved us. Unfortunatelly, millions of lives are nothing considered near to the existence of all humans in that case.

I have an old friend callled Einstein and he says when we travel near the speed of light, the time will bend and we can go back, but we need <snip> load of energy for that, which we can't afford maybe.
So maybe time traveling is possible, but you can only go like 5 years back. If we are 10 years back than the time, they can't travel back to us.

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#8 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

as rat said. you were already there in the past because that's when you time-traveled back to. because hitler didn't die, but you were already in the past, then that means that you can't kill hitler.

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#9 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

Time travel is possible if you go fast enough. Let me tell you a story.

There are twins. One is an astronaught. The other liked to stay at home. The astronaught is going to be sent away to mars. The trip will take exactly year. Scientists want to do an experiment, so they developed a clock that could tick for a year. They made two. Then they put them into two different safes, that only they knew the code to open. One was the the spaceship. The other inside the twin that likes to stay at home home. The astronaught twin went on the space mission. When the astronaught got back the clocks were taken from the safes (saves?). The astronaughts clock was at 1:30PM and the other twins was at 1:40PM. The astronaught was ten minutes younger than when she was home. A year later the same experiment was done exactly the same. However, the spaceship travelled twice the speed. The clocks were at   1:20PM and 1:40. They did the experiment again but with twice he speed as the previous time. The clocks were at 1:00PM and 1:40PM.

That isn't a true story but its what would happen. (Times not accurate)
So remember, everytime you're travelling you're geting younger, but by less than a millisecond. The faster you're going, the slower times getting. Time travel is half possible.

#10 Before February 2015

Echo!
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Re: Time Travelling.

Why do people think it could be possible for a start? I mean.. Nothing in the universe could make it possible. It goes against nature and realism..

#11 Before February 2015

soccerfreak006
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Re: Time Travelling.

Actually, scientist's discovered an atom that uses the 5th dimension. It can travel so fast, it can be back before it even left. It has been tested, and is true.

#12 Before February 2015

Arceus64
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Re: Time Travelling.

soccerfreak006 wrote:

Actually, scientist's discovered an atom that uses the 5th dimension. It can travel so fast, it can be back before it even left. It has been tested, and is true.

So you believe in both Christ and time-travel as well?

#13 Before February 2015

MaxDG/MXIII
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Re: Time Travelling.

Even if it were possible to kill Hitler before World War II without any paradoxes occurring, nobody would do it. It would just cause too many changes for the future. Even killing one, insignificant person 10 years ago could cause 40 people in the present to die, or cause them to open a fast-food restaurant. It's sort of like the butterfly effect.

#14 Before February 2015

Twipply
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Re: Time Travelling.

LD3H wrote:

Think of: Why did nobody from the future visit us?

Time travel might only be possible back to the point where your time travel device was first activated.

Patience is Key wrote:

So remember, everytime you're travelling you're geting younger, but by less than a millisecond. The faster you're going, the slower times getting. Time travel is half possible.

You don't get younger, time just travels slower for you relative to the stationary observer.   Twin paradox.

soccerfreak006 wrote:

Actually, scientist's discovered an atom that uses the 5th dimension. It can travel so fast, it can be back before it even left. It has been tested, and is true.

What?

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#15 Before February 2015

Fdoou
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Re: Time Travelling.

Oh good, Twipply arrived.

Time travel makes no sense, therefore I refuse to think about it.

#16 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

LD3H wrote:

I just thought about that: It won't be possible to travel through time, ever. Think of: Why did nobody from the future visit us? Why nobody prevented the 2nd world war by killing Hitler secretly? Why did Tschernobyl happen, why didn't it was prevented? Why isn't the world a simple chaotic thing because of the time travels and future changes?

I could continue this list, but now tell what YOU think.

So you would be following a fixed path time travelling model. There is the flexible model where it loops into the past. I'll draw a picture.


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#17 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

Arceus64 wrote:
soccerfreak006 wrote:

Actually, scientist's discovered an atom that uses the 5th dimension. It can travel so fast, it can be back before it even left. It has been tested, and is true.

So you believe in both Christ and time-travel as well?

That atom is how I believe the rapture will be physically possible.

#18 Before February 2015

Koya
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Re: Time Travelling.

Let me explain [in short]:
FIXED - It will happen, and the effects are with everyone.
LOOPED - You have to wait for the time traveller to do the deed to get the effect, those who die before this time to not have this effect from the past. But we don't know what will happen past area 3 [in picture], it's all guesswork.
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#19 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

Funny you should make this topic - me and Dad had a discussion about this not long ago.

Dad belives that time travveling will be invented, and that the reason that nobody has seen anybody travel from the future, is that you can't travel before time travel was invented. It would be like sending an email to an unregistered email. I think that's utter crap.

#20 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

LD3H wrote:

I just thought about that: It won't be possible to travel through time, ever. Think of: Why did nobody from the future visit us? Why nobody prevented the 2nd world war by killing Hitler secretly? Why did Tschernobyl happen, why didn't it was prevented? Why isn't the world a simple chaotic thing because of the time travels and future changes?

I could continue this list, but now tell what YOU think.

It may be possible. Honestly, it does happen. When astronauts go up on the shuttle, they travel a fraction of a second to the future.

Why didn't anybody from the future visit us? Because it would make a significant change in history.
Why didn't anybody prevent WW2? Because a lot would be changed, and possibly we wouldn't be where we are today.
Why
Why did Chernobyl disaster happen, why wasn't it prevented? Chernobyl happened because of a nuclear station. There was some sort of problem and radiation spread all over Chernobyl. Why wasn't it prevented? Because that would also make a significant change, and a lot probably would not happen.
"Why isn't the world a simple chaotic thing because of the time travels and future changes?" what?

#21 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

soccerfreak006 wrote:

Actually, scientist's discovered an atom that uses the 5th dimension. It can travel so fast, it can be back before it even left. It has been tested, and is true.

the 5th dimension is separate time-lines and only exists metaphysically. despite being humor, this video might help you understand the dimensions better. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2aCVlnLow[/youtube]

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#22 Before February 2015

Twipply
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Re: Time Travelling.

krubby wrote:

the 5th dimension is separate time-lines and only exists metaphysically. despite being humour, this video might help you understand the dimensions better.

I don't think that video was even remotely accurate compared to the universe we live in.

#23 Before February 2015

Muffy
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Re: Time Travelling.

LD3H wrote:

I just thought about that: It won't be possible to travel through time, ever. Think of: Why did nobody from the future visit us? Why nobody prevented the 2nd world war by killing Hitler secretly? Why did Tschernobyl happen, why didn't it was prevented? Why isn't the world a simple chaotic thing because of the time travels and future changes?

I could continue this list, but now tell what YOU think.

To be clear, i still havent read all of the other posts, just the OP. Why? Well changing something like that could help us in the near furture, but doesnt mean it will contribute well in the far future.

#24 Before February 2015

Koto
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Re: Time Travelling.

If you go back in time, and kill Hitler, that would create an alternate reality where Hitler was killed.   Future you would have no reason to back in time, because the you that killed Hitler came from anther dimension, where Hitler was never killed by you.   Basically, when you go back in time, and change something, it creates another reality, so that both results, still can exist.


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#25 Before February 2015

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Re: Time Travelling.

I don't feel like reading the other posts, so...

I'll start with the quickest theory: paradoxes. If somebody went back in time to stop WWII, then WWII would never have existed. If WWII had never existed, then nobody would know about it. If nobody knew about it, then nobody would go back in time to prevent the thing that never happened. If nobody went back in time to prevent it, then it would have happened. Etc.

However, it could also be explained by the butterfly effect. Perhaps those events needed to happen in order to prevent worse events from happening. For instance, if WWII never happened, the United Nations may have never been created, and they couldn't prevent all the issues since then through diplomatic means.

Have you ever seen the episode of Family guy when Stewie and Brian go back in time, to the Pilot, and Brian warns his past self about 9/11? Past-Brian then gets on one of planes involved, and stops the terrorists before anything major happens. I don't remember exactly how, but it resulted in the reformation of the Confederacy. And Cookie Monster invented Facebook.

Also, how do you know they didn't prevent any major catastrophes from happening? For all you know, the cold war had resulted in a nuclear war that destroyed most of the world, until somebody went back in time and changed something.

"Why did nobody in the future visit us?" How do you know they didn't?

krubby wrote:
soccerfreak006 wrote:

Actually, scientist's discovered an atom that uses the 5th dimension. It can travel so fast, it can be back before it even left. It has been tested, and is true.

the 5th dimension is separate time-lines and only exists metaphysically.

Except that he's right; scientists have discovered something that can travel through time.

I don't remember the details, but they sent some sort of signal to another place far away. The thing is, the receiver received the signal before the sender sent it.

Last edited by Shift (Aug 14 2012 7:09:42 pm)

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