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Re: Tulpas, Tulpi, Tuplae, etc.

... Can someone please explain what this is about because I don't understand it very well

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Fdoou

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Re: Tulpas, Tulpi, Tuplae, etc.

At first I tl;dr, but I saw the heated argument and read the article.

Seems very intreresting. It would be fun to have an imaginary pony follow you around, but how?

I don't get the how part.

What would happen if you tried to play fetch with your pony buddy using a real ball?

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megazzorro

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Hello.

JadElClemens

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At first I tl;dr, but I saw the heated argument and read the article.

Seems very intreresting. It would be fun to have an imaginary pony follow you around, but how?

I don't get the how part.

You subconsciously (yes, subconsciously is still valid) project your mental image of the tulpa into your surroundings. I obviously haven't done it before, but from that point on apparently all that you need to do to keep it going is to feed it attention.

It would be fun to have an imaginary pony follow you around

I kno, riet?

What would happen if you tried to play fetch with your pony buddy using a real ball?

I imagine you'd have to also project an imaginary ball into the real world (which I've heard is possible). This is something I'd wondered as well. I mean, I get being able to sit down on things or not being able to phase through walls and stuff (As you subconsciously know that you have to avoid solid objects, it's not like you think "crap I'd better not run into that" constantly), but things like that I can't imagine. I suppose you'd know deep down that your tulpa can't exactly "interact" with actual, physical objects.
I've also wondered if it would be possible for your tulpa to acknowledge and speak about things that you're not currently looking at. Do you subconsciously remember everything about the room you're in, perhaps?

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JadElClemens

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Hello.
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You have been warned for spam. If you continue to post in this topic I will give you another warning and a ban for the day (due to continued spam, not because 2 warnings = day ban).

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Watashii

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Re: Tulpas, Tulpi, Tuplae, etc.

Hello.

I don't think that it's a good idea to practically give yourself schizophrenia.

Just a thought.

Why would you want to destroy your view of the world on purpose?
Also, can we cover headmates/otherkin in this thread, or should I make a separate thread for them if I want to make fun of them? It's vaguely related to Tulpas because both are basically stupid tumblr fandom things.

treejoe4

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Hello.

I don't think that it's a good idea to practically give yourself schizophrenia.

Just a thought.

Why would you want to destroy your view of the world on purpose?
Also, can we cover headmates/otherkin in this thread, or should I make a separate thread for them if I want to make fun of them? It's vaguely related to Tulpas because both are basically stupid tumblr fandom things.

Watashii is right, Watashii for president.

JadElClemens

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Re: Tulpas, Tulpi, Tuplae, etc.

Hello.

I don't think that it's a good idea to practically give yourself schizophrenia.

Just a thought.

Except this isn't the same thing or even similar by any stretch, and that's not even possible.

Why would you want to destroy your view of the world on purpose?

I don't understand what you're saying.

Also, can we cover headmates/otherkin in this thread, or should I make a separate thread for them if I want to make fun of them? It's vaguely related to Tulpas because both are basically stupid tumblr fandom things.

Yes, you may.

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Watashii

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Except this isn't the same thing or even similar by any stretch, and that's not even possible.

The little psychological research that have gone into the subject generally seems to support the claim. But yes, the research (not some crappy /mlp/ or /x/ posters) is very little, and ranges from tulpas being abstractions of the subconscious to a form of induced schizophrenia.

While it's impossible to induce real schizophrenia on yourself, I didn't exactly mean it in the most literal form possible. Hence the word "practically" I put in there. When you have a tulpa, you also have a lot of the symptoms of a schizophrenic person, but you don't actually have schizophrenia.

With that said, something is probably wrong in your life if you feel like creating a tulpa is a good idea!

JadElClemens

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Except this isn't the same thing or even similar by any stretch, and that's not even possible.

The little psychological research that have gone into the subject generally seems to support the claim. But yes, the research (not some crappy /mlp/ or /x/ posters) is very little, and ranges from tulpas being abstractions of the subconscious to a form of induced schizophrenia.

While it's impossible to induce real schizophrenia on yourself, I didn't exactly mean it in the most literal form possible. Hence the word "practically" I put in there. When you have a tulpa, you also have a lot of the symptoms of a schizophrenic person, but you don't actually have schizophrenia.

I checked my knowledge against two (not exactly extensive, I realize) sources and I've been able to find two mirrored symptoms, and the second one only had two because it split "seeing things that aren't there" and "talking to things that aren't there" into two symptoms. "Aren't there" can be dismissed as well if you realize that most people that do this who are not complete morons realize that what they're creating isn't really an actual person or form, whatever they decide to make.

With that said, something is probably wrong in your life if you feel like creating a tulpa is a good idea!

I hope you're not using the "evidence" above to support this claim. What do you mean by this?

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treejoe4

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If you need an imaginary friend to talk to, then that is sad and you probably need more friends and social interaction.

Wolf exile1

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If you need an imaginary friend to talk to, then that is sad and you probably need more friends and social interaction.

...I've read through this topic, And you suggest drugs, And make fun of it. What if your life has been sad, And something horrible has happened? This could be good. What if you need a math buddy? Great!

It isn't overpowered by Drugs and I don't get why you keep suggesting them. If you don't have anything useful to say, Besides "Use drugs" Then, I suggest you leave.

treejoe4

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Well done Wolfexile for ignoring all my other points, lets all clap to your ignorance.

Are me Watashii the only ones who realize the harm done by imaginary friends at an older age?

Wolf exile1

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Well done Wolfexile for ignoring all my other points, lets all clap to your ignorance.

Are me Watashii the only ones who realize the harm done by imaginary friends at an older age?

I get it, It can even ruin your life. You could become insane, But there are good points to it.

treejoe4

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No, not really.

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It's not really an "imaginary friend" as you say. It's more of your mind tricking you into seeing an actually person. You might be convinced that that person is right there, talking to you, but everybody else is just going to look at you like a crazy person.
I heard that if you are in a large crowd, one of those people just might be a tulpa but you would never know. They just fit in to the crowd so you don't think anything of them, but really you are the only person who can see him. It's just a projection of your mind.

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treejoe4

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Is it imaginary?
Yes
Is it something to interact with, like a friend?
Yes

Bobithan

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Still there's a difference. An imaginary friend like a 6 year old has, the 6 year old just sees empty air and pretends somebody is there. With a tulpa you can actually see it.
Or maybe I just had a really crappy imagination as a child.

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treejoe4

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Still there's a difference. An imaginary friend like a 6 year old has, the 6 year old just sees empty air and pretends somebody is there. With a tulpa you can actually see it.
Or maybe I just had a really crappy imagination as a child.

I'd go with the latter opinion.

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anyways, because i claim this actual thing is bs, i'm not going to get into an argument over this. however what i suggested as a legit and more likely one is much more controlled, is not visible in any way and is all around harmless. and you pick every fight that could possible be fought, treejoe.

treejoe4

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anyways, because i claim this actual thing is bs, i'm not going to get into an argument over this. however what i suggested as a legit and more likely one is much more controlled, is not visible in any way and is all around harmless. and you pick every fight that could possible be fought, treejoe.

You got a problem buddy?

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I would make it do my homework for me.... Or.... I would make me do my homework for me? Meh, whatever. I'd feed it whatever it wants, attention, food, whatever, as long as it would do my homework >_> AP classes suck.

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Re: Tulpas, Tulpi, Tuplae, etc.

don't want to silence discussion here but some comments are a little less on the discussion side and more like flaming, no warnings just tone it down a bit

on the topic...
I don't really see the appeal to tulpaeiou, except maybe as a way of sharpenin your mind I GUESS but that seems forced. Like if you're strong enough to WILL something into existence to yourself then you could probably use said strengths to overcome emotionally difficult things, perhaps justify an action you otherwise couldn't

I don't know if Schizophrenia is exactly right but it sounds like those people that go into psychosis after a loved one dies and believes it never happened

Jad, I'm really trying to think of a way that doesn't make the thing sound ridiculous and it is quite hard

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Re: Tulpas, Tulpi, Tuplae, etc.

anyways, because i claim this actual thing is bs, i'm not going to get into an argument over this. however what i suggested as a legit and more likely one is much more controlled, is not visible in any way and is all around harmless. and you pick every fight that could possible be fought, treejoe.

You got a problem buddy?

"Whenever they's a fight bout the goodness of ponies, I'll be there. Whenever there's a video flamin up a guy, I'll be there . . . . I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad an'-I'll be in the way people make huge chains of comments on youtube. An' when our folks win the arguments they started and fight through attacks they made -why, I'll be there."

anyways, i overall wouldn't recommend tulpa stuff and that's all i have left to say about this.

JadElClemens

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Well done Wolfexile for ignoring all my other points, lets all clap to your ignorance.

Are me Watashii the only ones who realize the harm done by imaginary friends at an older age?

None of either of your supposed harms have been proven acceptably to me.

It's not really an "imaginary friend" as you say. It's more of your mind tricking you into seeing an actually person. You might be convinced that that person is right there, talking to you, but everybody else is just going to look at you like a crazy person.
I heard that if you are in a large crowd, one of those people just might be a tulpa but you would never know. They just fit in to the crowd so you don't think anything of them, but really you are the only person who can see him. It's just a projection of your mind.

I'd like to imagine (and I don't even think this is wishful thinking) that the majority of the people that could successfully make one would be able to realize it's not real. It's not like pretending it's not real is detrimental, it's just that it's bad to pretend that it's not there. It's a different thing.

You're also leaving out the possibility that you could create your tulpa in the form of a dragon or something otherwise impossible or extremely uncommon - it'd be easy to spot in such a situation.

Still there's a difference. An imaginary friend like a 6 year old has, the 6 year old just sees empty air and pretends somebody is there. With a tulpa you can actually see it.
Or maybe I just had a really crappy imagination as a child.

I'd go with the latter opinion.

My imagination must've been pretty damn crap, too.

I would make it do my homework for me.... Or.... I would make me do my homework for me? Meh, whatever. I'd feed it whatever it wants, attention, food, whatever, as long as it would do my homework >_> AP classes suck.

Advanced memory recall and logical skills are a known and proven (As far as you'd believe you can prove these things) benefits to having a tulpa, since it's also like a direct gateway into your subconscious.

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