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Helvi

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Jesus and Thor

Just wondering.
Jesus said he will free the world from evil people.
Thor said he will free the Earth from frost giants.

I have one question. Do you see any frost giants wandering around?

Please share your opinion about the lost arts and believe in rune magic and sacred oaks.

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Koto

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Re: Jesus and Thor

Just wondering.
Jesus said he will free the world from evil people.
Thor said he will free the Earth from frost giants.

I have one question. Do you see any frost giants wandering around?

Ask Addi, he'd be the most likely to have frost giants wondering around, what with him living in Iceland.

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Arceus64

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My entire town was murdered by frost giants when I was 2. True story. Thor is such a liar.

krubby

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Re: Jesus and Thor

Well, I promised that I would kick an evil kangaroo 1000 times in the bum and I think you should go to the Sydney zoo to check out that 'roo's swollen buttocks. I'm a better God than both of them because not only do I make better promises but I follow through with them.

Calicara

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I am probably a living contradiction to your first statement. I consider myself evil in some ways. Not so much in a "I'm gonna kill you way", but more like a "push you into a corner using my words way.", and yet no matter how many people dislike me I still exist everyday.

And IF Thor were real, then that would mean he is doing his job, because I have not seen any frost giants. According to your logic he has "freed the world" from them, whatever that means, so of course I would not see them.

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Arceus64

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Both the government and the media hides the fact there are frost giants. In Alaska, I had to make eskimo spears and kill them for survival. Other than the fact they make for good snow cones, they taste pretty bland.

Breadfinn

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Re: Jesus and Thor

Just wondering.
Jesus said he will free the world from evil people.
Thor said he will free the Earth from frost giants.

I have one question. Do you see any frost giants wandering around?

Ask Addi, he'd be the most likely to have frost giants wondering around, what with him living in Iceland.

I have seen what remains of them. Stories tell that trolls wandered around Iceland, and when they touched sunlight, they turned into stone. Frost giants? Glaciers.

But really, Helvi is right. Why should the Norse religion be less true than the others?
Jesus was nailed to a cross. Thor had a hammer. Problem?

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Helvi

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Re: Jesus and Thor

Fact is that what people refer to as Viking Myth is gone due to christianization of northern Europe few centuries ago.
What is left?
-The Poetic Edda
-The Prose Edda

Both unique in their apperence just like the mentioned "gods" Thor, Odin, Skinir, Tyr.. just to name a few.
The people even made jokes about their "gods" which is unique as well and represents freedom at all.

Well then the Christians arrived, spreading their misbelieve like cancer. Burning people they called Witches - tortured to confess, burnt alive and spilled their blood - blood spilled by christians, christians raped and murdered.
The church of christ forever marked, and now propaganding their heretic bait against any who object on their visions and views of our (shared) world.
When one looses his mind he is called insane, when many looses their mind it is called religion. See?
-The crusades
-The inquisition
-Conflict in Ireland
etc etc

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

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treejoe4

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Re: Jesus and Thor

Does it really matter since both didn't exist anyway.

krubby

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Re: Jesus and Thor

Does it really matter since both didn't exist anyway.

Well, Jesus is just whoever started Christianity, even if that wasn't actually his name.

Calicara

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Even though I am atheist I must disagree Treejoe4. Maybe god does not exist, but Jesus did. It's a fact as far as I know. He is the one who spread Christianity, he was the messenger. If he did not exist then neither would Christianity. Religion might still be around, just not Christianity.

Plus I do believe that Jesus was a very good man, he taught the phrase "turn the other cheek", and practiced good social skills by showing that no one man was better than anyone else.

So, even if you don't believe in any of the made up parts of religion, there are some parts that are factual like the birth of Jesus and some of the things he did in his life. Whether or not his teaching were true or just though are questionable.

treejoe4

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The religious side of Jesus is false. All religions are false, they are just poor scientific methods of explaining the world.

I could make up my own religion and say, I killed all the fire giants, where are they?

Calicara

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Well maybe one cannot free the world of ALL evil people, but they can certainly try. I for one would never turn down someone who was only trying to help.

I believe more in the lessons Jesus teaches through his life, such as 'Love your neighbor as yourself', or like I said prior 'turn the other cheek'.

So maybe his religious side IS false, but you cannot also say that Jesus is false, because he was a real live person, even if you don't necessarily like him or believe him.

And again I must emphasize I am Athiest, don't take this as a "OMG FAIL IS CHRISTIAN!", because I'm not. I'm just stating facts.

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Well, I promised that I would kick an evil kangaroo 1000 times in the bum and I think you should go to the Sydney zoo to check out that 'roo's swollen buttocks. I'm a better God than both of them because not only do I make better promises but I follow through with them.

I went to Sydney Zoo. No swollen kangaroo butts. YOU ARE A LIER >:C

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Arceus64

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Well then the Christians arrived, spreading their misbelieve like cancer. Burning people they called Witches - tortured to confess, burnt alive and spilled their blood - blood spilled by christians, christians raped and murdered.

I would like to see some examples of each of these.

I'm not sure about the other Christian faiths, but the Catholic Church does not tolerate the hatred of any man regardless of religion. They teach by the motto that you should still love everybody regardless of religious views, since God is a forgiving person.

Jaybm

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Well then the Christians arrived, spreading their misbelieve like cancer. Burning people they called Witches - tortured to confess, burnt alive and spilled their blood - blood spilled by christians, christians raped and murdered.

I would like to see some examples of each of these.

I'm not sure about the other Christian faiths, but the Catholic Church does not tolerate the hatred of any man regardless of religion. They teach by the motto that you should still love everybody regardless of religious views, since God is a forgiving person.

The only reason this topic was made is to stir people up - don't bite.

Arceus64

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Well then the Christians arrived, spreading their misbelieve like cancer. Burning people they called Witches - tortured to confess, burnt alive and spilled their blood - blood spilled by christians, christians raped and murdered.

I would like to see some examples of each of these.

I'm not sure about the other Christian faiths, but the Catholic Church does not tolerate the hatred of any man regardless of religion. They teach by the motto that you should still love everybody regardless of religious views, since God is a forgiving person.

The only reason this topic was made is to stir people up - don't bite.

So I can't defend my religion?

krubby

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Re: Jesus and Thor

Well, I promised that I would kick an evil kangaroo 1000 times in the bum and I think you should go to the Sydney zoo to check out that 'roo's swollen buttocks. I'm a better God than both of them because not only do I make better promises but I follow through with them.

I went to Sydney Zoo. No swollen kangaroo butts. YOU ARE A LIER >:C

You mean... he escaped?!?! I'll handle this. All of you stay inside and hold your family close until this crisis is averted.

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Jesus was real but not magical.

Thor was not real but starred in some cool movies and comics.

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Helvi

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Well then the Christians arrived, spreading their misbelieve like cancer. Burning people they called Witches - tortured to confess, burnt alive and spilled their blood - blood spilled by christians, christians raped and murdered.

I would like to see some examples of each of these.

I'm not sure about the other Christian faiths, but the Catholic Church does not tolerate the hatred of any man regardless of religion. They teach by the motto that you should still love everybody regardless of religious views, since God is a forgiving person.

Ireland: http://www.euronews.com/2010/02/05/n-ir … tion-deal/
Result: 3,600 people died due to this conflict
Again, christianity involved.

Uganda: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic … 18,00.html
Result: Christianity causes insanity, causing mass suicide murder.

Rwandan Genocide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide#Religion
quote: The Roman Catholic Church affirms that genocide took place[...]
Year 1939-1945, Holocaust
6,000,000 Jews die under Adolf Hitlers orders inspired by Martin Luther's pamphlet, Jews and Their Lies
Jews and Their Lies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

Witchburning and accusation:
http://tinyurl.com/bh6xbka
http://www.angelfire.com/vamp/dervampir … stein.html
Quote: in torture she confessed to killing cows and horses

Another case of Witch Burning:
http://www.irvineold.org/graveyard/nota … ches-trial
Quote: To overcome her resolve the inquiry proposed a method of 'gentle torture' as this would take into account her age and sex.
This tender torment consisted of placing Margaret's legs in the stocks and loading her bare shins with iron bars until she acknowledged her guilt, the weights were removed only when she promised the inquisition that she would tell them what they wanted to hear.
Now, would you deny the inquisition, the holocaust, the crusades? Just a question, no bad intentions or even insulsts intended.

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Arceus64

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I wouldn't deny it, I understand the fact that there have been some horrible things associated with or blamed at Christianity. You can't hide the past. We've also had some crooked Popes in the early years, able to do what they pleased to with such power with merely spread of word. But I believe in this modern age where people are more aware of what's going on in their church, we'll hardly see such cruel people being able to take power.

treejoe4

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I wouldn't deny it, I understand the fact that there have been some horrible things associated with or blamed at Christianity. You can't hide the past. We've also had some crooked Popes in the early years, able to do what they pleased to with such power with merely spread of word. But I believe in this modern age where people are more aware of what's going on in their church, we'll hardly see such cruel people being able to take power.

"But I believe in this modern age where people are more aware of what's going on in their church, we'll hardly see such cruel people being able to take power."

The church is full of pedophiles and corruption.

There is no reason to support Christianity, the human race doesn't need it anymore. Christianity has helped us evolve, but now it holds us back. And the fact people are still creationists in a time where men have walked on the moon is incredibly sad.

Like it or not Christianity is still responsible for hatred in this world, and now more and more people are ignoring large areas of the Bible, how long is it going to be for nearly all of it is ignored? Not very long.

Helvi

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Thats true treejoe4,
but I would go a bit further and say that there was never need for any religion - thinking about history and its conflict mostly based or centered around major religions.

lol@your sig

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Re: Jesus and Thor

We all know only me and my friends are the gods of the universe. We rule all. You're just kidding to make it sounds funny.

Calicara

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To back up Treejoes point:

I am currently enrolled in Anthropology at my college. One of the things we talked about was a law once created in the European middle ages was called the fixity of species. The fixity of species, in short, states that people did not evolve over time and that we just kind of came to be by gods hand.

Since the church also controlled the states at the time, a lot of people believed in this false theory, and no one questioned it, because questioning the laws of religion was considered to be heresy. Even Charles Darwin, who theorized natural selection, once believed in this ridiculous notion, and it was not till after his voyage to the Galapagos Islands that his views began to change.

Even then though people thought he was crazy at first though for questioning the word of the lord, and it took a long time for his ideas to finally get accepted.

Also the famous scientist, Galileo, who backed the theory of heliocentrism among other scientific advancements was taken captive by the catholic church for heresy, where he eventually died.

Religion blocks the world from seeing what is right in front of us. To me it is like, you can hope and pray and wish for things all you want, but the only way that things will ever get done is through science. Religious groups make claims, but they don't back them up. You can't say god exists because there is no proof. That is why I am more inclined to lead a more logical atheist life, where logic and reason are truth.

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